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by **dawson99** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:46 pm

I love a ciggy in my mouth mate

by **JoeTerp** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:47 pm

what do you mean by that?

On one had it is natural to look out for your own self-interest, but humans have also relied on other people to survive since our species was born.

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:53 pm

dawson99 wrote:I'm a proud smoker, 20 a day since i was 13... can't stand those ex smokers... now those people annoy me

I dont say anything out loud - all under my breath where they cant hear me

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:54 pm

I will agree taking away religon wont stop all wars - it would of stopped a number in the past but it wouldnt of stopped the people who started wars out of pure greed and wanting to dominate people

by **LFC2007** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:06 pm

JoeTerp wrote:On one had it is natural to look out for your own self-interest, but humans have also relied on other people to survive since our species was born.

Spot on. (but I'll only agree with you up to that point

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by **metalhead** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:34 pm

JoeTerp wrote:But the arguement is that religion does cause harm, if you remove religion, you will remove the harm that it caused. Pretty simple logic.

Never in a million years.

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:43 pm

metalhead wrote:
JoeTerp wrote:But the arguement is that religion does cause harm, if you remove religion, you will remove the harm that it caused. Pretty simple logic.

Never in a million years.

I agree mate, people will just find some other cause or reason . Whether they would follow another cause as unquestioningly might be open to debate.

by **JoeTerp** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:46 pm

metalhead wrote:
JoeTerp wrote:But the arguement is that religion does cause harm, if you remove religion, you will remove the harm that it caused. Pretty simple logic.

Never in a million years.

how?

I don't think you read the statement carefully enough.

Also, harm is a lot more than just death via war.

by **dawson99** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:47 pm

without religion we, as people, would just find some other reason to f*ck each other up

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:48 pm

Greed in the modern era is a bigger cause of wars mate

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:49 pm

Fear is the biggest cause of wars today

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:49 pm

Fear of what mate ?

by **account deleted by request** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:52 pm

Fear of someone getting more, being bigger and stronger, fear of losing what you have, fear of the differences between people etc etc

by **JoeTerp** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:54 pm

I'm gonna go with power hungry politicians, dictators, nationalism/collectivism, racism, & religion

by **Benny The Noon** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:54 pm

Do you mean like the current situation with the Yanks and Iran ?

And like the current situation in Afghan ?

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