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only me wrote:

bigmick wrote:

only me wrote:Spearing ,from a few minutes i saw him ,shows much more potential.

I know it's all opinions and all that, and each person is entitled to theirs, but do you really think this mate? Honestly?

Listen I'm one of the people who bangs on all the time about getting local talent, at least English or British talent and giving them a shot, but do you honestly think Spearing would have got a game for Brazil or been crowned the player of the year in the Brazillian league?

To be honest BigM ,Yes i do.

aCe' alright Albert... would he make the bench at ManUtd, Chelsea, Arsenal, or even ManCity ?!

The defence rests

bigmick wrote:

Nando26 wrote:Your an idiot an the fact that youve only seen afew minutes of Spearing play backs that up

The fact that he's "only seen a few minutes of Spearing" doesn't back up your opinion of him being an idiot. What that particular fact backs up, is that he probably hasn't seen as much of the reserves as you have by all accounts, nothing more, nothing less.

I actually agree with you (heavens preserve us) that Lucas is much the better player, but there is no need for your confrontational response to this guy. Just chill and voice your views, if you genuinely have watched the reserves over a couple of seasons then I've no doubt that you have something worthwhile to contribute, so far you have buried any sensible points you might have been able to make in surlyness and nonsense. At least I'm hoping that is the case anyway.

Highland Red wrote:

bigmick wrote:

Nando26 wrote:Your an idiot an the fact that youve only seen afew minutes of Spearing play backs that up

The fact that he's "only seen a few minutes of Spearing" doesn't back up your opinion of him being an idiot. What that particular fact backs up, is that he probably hasn't seen as much of the reserves as you have by all accounts, nothing more, nothing less.

I actually agree with you (heavens preserve us) that Lucas is much the better player, but there is no need for your confrontational response to this guy. Just chill and voice your views, if you genuinely have watched the reserves over a couple of seasons then I've no doubt that you have something worthwhile to contribute, so far you have buried any sensible points you might have been able to make in surlyness and nonsense. At least I'm hoping that is the case anyway.

Voice of reason there.

Lucas is the better option of him and Spearing. No question. I'd love to see Jay progress, but it ain't going to happen under Rafa. Unless you're uber-special, youth are not going to progress to the first team as it stands.

heimdall wrote:

Highland Red wrote:

bigmick wrote:

Nando26 wrote:Your an idiot an the fact that youve only seen afew minutes of Spearing play backs that up

The fact that he's "only seen a few minutes of Spearing" doesn't back up your opinion of him being an idiot. What that particular fact backs up, is that he probably hasn't seen as much of the reserves as you have by all accounts, nothing more, nothing less.

I actually agree with you (heavens preserve us) that Lucas is much the better player, but there is no need for your confrontational response to this guy. Just chill and voice your views, if you genuinely have watched the reserves over a couple of seasons then I've no doubt that you have something worthwhile to contribute, so far you have buried any sensible points you might have been able to make in surlyness and nonsense. At least I'm hoping that is the case anyway.

Voice of reason there.

Lucas is the better option of him and Spearing. No question. I'd love to see Jay progress, but it ain't going to happen under Rafa. Unless you're uber-special, youth are not going to progress to the first team as it stands.

I'd like to see Nemeth given a run of games though.

BTW the defence may rest but here is the reposte, all three of those players posted are better than Lucas and contribute more to their teams than Lucas does to ours.

burjennio wrote:

heimdall wrote:

Highland Red wrote:

bigmick wrote:

Nando26 wrote:Your an idiot an the fact that youve only seen afew minutes of Spearing play backs that up

The fact that he's "only seen a few minutes of Spearing" doesn't back up your opinion of him being an idiot. What that particular fact backs up, is that he probably hasn't seen as much of the reserves as you have by all accounts, nothing more, nothing less.

I actually agree with you (heavens preserve us) that Lucas is much the better player, but there is no need for your confrontational response to this guy. Just chill and voice your views, if you genuinely have watched the reserves over a couple of seasons then I've no doubt that you have something worthwhile to contribute, so far you have buried any sensible points you might have been able to make in surlyness and nonsense. At least I'm hoping that is the case anyway.

Voice of reason there.

Lucas is the better option of him and Spearing. No question. I'd love to see Jay progress, but it ain't going to happen under Rafa. Unless you're uber-special, youth are not going to progress to the first team as it stands.

I'd like to see Nemeth given a run of games though.

BTW the defence may rest but here is the reposte, all three of those players posted are better than Lucas and contribute more to their teams than Lucas does to ours.

thats your opinion, which is of course completely wrong.

Do you know why I picked these 3 players? Because they are the common scapegoats for a small percentage of fickle fans of their respective clubs who have the same narrow minded supporters like yourself who see the worst in every player except the marquee names and won't be happy until every player in the squad is worth £40m and the team win the league by 30 points. In short, delusional

And not one of these players is streets ahead of Lucas, get a grip

calm down, calm down, which insect crawled up your ?
What a horribly patronising person you are.

Why do you feel the need to support players who will never make the grade? You see I can't be bothered to waste my support on players who are not worthy of it and Lucas will never ever make the grade, that is my opinion, you have yours, which I am grown up enough to respect, sad thing that you aren't man enough to respect differing opinion! 

burjennio wrote:

calm down, calm down, which insect crawled up your ?
What a horribly patronising person you are.

Why do you feel the need to support players who will never make the grade? You see I can't be bothered to waste my support on players who are not worthy of it and Lucas will never ever make the grade, that is my opinion, you have yours, which I am grown up enough to respect, sad thing that you aren't man enough to respect differing opinion!

I would respect your opinion if it wasn't shallow, biased and unfair and what is crawled up my whatever is 3 months of sitting back and reading the tribe you and Ace come out with and the bile you throw around regarding the club I love and have supported since I was a kid. The distain you have for a team you claim to support is contemptable and its no suprises every major row started on this forum seems to involve one of you two and your extemely polarized views from the majority of "your" fellow LFC supporters. You "wouldn't waste your time on players who arn't worthy of it" comment really sums you up; a fickle glory hunting wind up merchant.

yeah explain why a glory hunter would support Liverpool and not Manure for me again please, I always love this bit.   

What bile am I throwing out, you know what, you really shouldn't be so insecure, your opinions are valid, don't feel so threatened by mine.

Also you must not confuse my having doubts about a player or even, he who must never be criticised, RAFA, as me not loving the club, how on earth do you make that connection???

burjennio wrote:

only me wrote:

bigmick wrote:

only me wrote:Spearing ,from a few minutes i saw him ,shows much more potential.

I know it's all opinions and all that, and each person is entitled to theirs, but do you really think this mate? Honestly?

Listen I'm one of the people who bangs on all the time about getting local talent, at least English or British talent and giving them a shot, but do you honestly think Spearing would have got a game for Brazil or been crowned the player of the year in the Brazillian league?

To be honest BigM ,Yes i do.

aCe' alright Albert... would he make the bench at ManUtd, Chelsea, Arsenal, or even ManCity ?!

The defence rests

Comparing Lucas to Mikel, Fletcher and Diaby ?

You must be out of your mind fella... out of the 3 you posted above, Mikel is probably the weakest link... even then, hes a much better player than Lucas imo will ever be, and hes shown it by being consistently solid for Chelsea whenever played... Like Lucas and Ballack, i dont think hes played in the role he favours in the teams' setup, but still hes a decent footballer although his 15mill price tag isnt by any means justifiable..

Lets be reasonable for a minute... Fletcher is a good player, not outstanding but hes miles ahead of Lucas... links up play very well and is very composed on the ball... defensively hes not bad at all.. Diaby has the potential to become a big player for Arsenal.. has excellent physical presence in the middle, good technical ability and drive, and can score goals...

Lucas is yet to prove he can even be solid ... much as we'd all like to make him out to be something hes not, we need to realize that hes some way from becoming a good enough player at this level... we'll see in the next few games how he does if hes played in the current setup.. for now, all i can hope for is that Lucas' presence in our starting 11 doesnt cost us points...

aCe' wrote:

burjennio wrote:

only me wrote:

bigmick wrote:

only me wrote:Spearing ,from a few minutes i saw him ,shows much more potential.

I know it's all opinions and all that, and each person is entitled to theirs, but do you really think this mate? Honestly?

Listen I'm one of the people who bangs on all the time about getting local talent, at least English or British talent and giving them a shot, but do you honestly think Spearing would have got a game for Brazil or been crowned the player of the year in the Brazillian league?

To be honest BigM ,Yes i do.

aCe' alright Albert... would he make the bench at ManUtd, Chelsea, Arsenal, or even ManCity ?!

The defence rests

Comparing Lucas to Mikel, Fletcher and Diaby ?

You must be out of your mind fella... out of the 3 you posted above, Mikel is probably the weakest link... even then, hes a much better player than Lucas imo will ever be, and hes shown it by being consistently solid for Chelsea whenever played... Like Lucas and Ballack, i dont think hes played in the role he favours in the teams' setup, but still hes a decent footballer although his 15mill price tag isnt by any means justifiable..

Lets be reasonable for a minute... Fletcher is a good player, not outstanding but hes miles ahead of Lucas... links up play very well and is very composed on the ball... defensively hes not bad at all.. Diaby has the potential to become a big player for Arsenal.. has excellent physical presence in the middle, good technical ability and drive, and can score goals...

Lucas is yet to prove he can even be solid ... much as we'd all like to make him out to be something hes not, we need to realize that hes some way from becoming a good enough player at this level... we'll see in the next few games how he does if hes played in the current setup.. for now, all i can hope for is that Lucas' presence in our starting 11 doesnt cost us points...

heimdall wrote:

burjennio wrote:

calm down, calm down, which insect crawled up your ?
What a horribly patronising person you are.

Why do you feel the need to support players who will never make the grade? You see I can't be bothered to waste my support on players who are not worthy of it and Lucas will never ever make the grade, that is my opinion, you have yours, which I am grown up enough to respect, sad thing that you aren't man enough to respect differing opinion!

I would respect your opinion if it wasn't shallow, biased and unfair and what is crawled up my whatever is 3 months of sitting back and reading the tribe you and Ace come out with and the bile you throw around regarding the club I love and have supported since I was a kid. The distain you have for a team you claim to support is contemptable and its no suprises every major row started on this forum seems to involve one of you two and your extemely polarized views from the majority of "your" fellow LFC supporters. You "wouldn't waste your time on players who arn't worthy of it" comment really sums you up; a fickle glory hunting wind up merchant.

yeah explain why a glory hunter would support Liverpool and not Manure for me again please, I always love this bit.   

What bile am I throwing out, you know what, you really shouldn't be so insecure, your opinions are valid, don't feel so threatened by mine.

Also you must not confuse my having doubts about a player or even, he who must never be criticised, RAFA, as me not loving the club, how on earth do you make that connection???

Igor Zidane wrote:

aCe' wrote:

burjennio wrote:

only me wrote:

bigmick wrote:

only me wrote:Spearing ,from a few minutes i saw him ,shows much more potential.

I know it's all opinions and all that, and each person is entitled to theirs, but do you really think this mate? Honestly?

Listen I'm one of the people who bangs on all the time about getting local talent, at least English or British talent and giving them a shot, but do you honestly think Spearing would have got a game for Brazil or been crowned the player of the year in the Brazillian league?

To be honest BigM ,Yes i do.

aCe' alright Albert... would he make the bench at ManUtd, Chelsea, Arsenal, or even ManCity ?!

The defence rests

Comparing Lucas to Mikel, Fletcher and Diaby ?

You must be out of your mind fella... out of the 3 you posted above, Mikel is probably the weakest link... even then, hes a much better player than Lucas imo will ever be, and hes shown it by being consistently solid for Chelsea whenever played... Like Lucas and Ballack, i dont think hes played in the role he favours in the teams' setup, but still hes a decent footballer although his 15mill price tag isnt by any means justifiable..

Lets be reasonable for a minute... Fletcher is a good player, not outstanding but hes miles ahead of Lucas... links up play very well and is very composed on the ball... defensively hes not bad at all.. Diaby has the potential to become a big player for Arsenal.. has excellent physical presence in the middle, good technical ability and drive, and can score goals...

Lucas is yet to prove he can even be solid ... much as we'd all like to make him out to be something hes not, we need to realize that hes some way from becoming a good enough player at this level... we'll see in the next few games how he does if hes played in the current setup.. for now, all i can hope for is that Lucas' presence in our starting 11 doesnt cost us points...

Lucas p!sses all over them three mate , you could have picked three better . Lucas is growing into his midfield role now ,you will see a different player this season .

aCe' wrote:

burjennio wrote:

only me wrote:

bigmick wrote:

only me wrote:Spearing ,from a few minutes i saw him ,shows much more potential.

I know it's all opinions and all that, and each person is entitled to theirs, but do you really think this mate? Honestly?

Listen I'm one of the people who bangs on all the time about getting local talent, at least English or British talent and giving them a shot, but do you honestly think Spearing would have got a game for Brazil or been crowned the player of the year in the Brazillian league?

To be honest BigM ,Yes i do.

aCe' alright Albert... would he make the bench at ManUtd, Chelsea, Arsenal, or even ManCity ?!

The defence rests

Comparing Lucas to Mikel, Fletcher and Diaby ?

You must be out of your mind fella... out of the 3 you posted above, Mikel is probably the weakest link... even then, hes a much better player than Lucas imo will ever be, and hes shown it by being consistently solid for Chelsea whenever played... Like Lucas and Ballack, i dont think hes played in the role he favours in the teams' setup, but still hes a decent footballer although his 15mill price tag isnt by any means justifiable..

Lets be reasonable for a minute... Fletcher is a good player, not outstanding but hes miles ahead of Lucas... links up play very well and is very composed on the ball... defensively hes not bad at all.. Diaby has the potential to become a big player for Arsenal.. has excellent physical presence in the middle, good technical ability and drive, and can score goals...

Lucas is yet to prove he can even be solid ... much as we'd all like to make him out to be something hes not, we need to realize that hes some way from becoming a good enough player at this level... we'll see in the next few games how he does if hes played in the current setup.. for now, all i can hope for is that Lucas' presence in our starting 11 doesnt cost us points...

Igor Zidane wrote:

aCe' wrote:

burjennio wrote:

only me wrote:

bigmick wrote:

only me wrote:Spearing ,from a few minutes i saw him ,shows much more potential.

I know it's all opinions and all that, and each person is entitled to theirs, but do you really think this mate? Honestly?

Listen I'm one of the people who bangs on all the time about getting local talent, at least English or British talent and giving them a shot, but do you honestly think Spearing would have got a game for Brazil or been crowned the player of the year in the Brazillian league?

To be honest BigM ,Yes i do.

aCe' alright Albert... would he make the bench at ManUtd, Chelsea, Arsenal, or even ManCity ?!

The defence rests

Comparing Lucas to Mikel, Fletcher and Diaby ?

You must be out of your mind fella... out of the 3 you posted above, Mikel is probably the weakest link... even then, hes a much better player than Lucas imo will ever be, and hes shown it by being consistently solid for Chelsea whenever played... Like Lucas and Ballack, i dont think hes played in the role he favours in the teams' setup, but still hes a decent footballer although his 15mill price tag isnt by any means justifiable..

Lets be reasonable for a minute... Fletcher is a good player, not outstanding but hes miles ahead of Lucas... links up play very well and is very composed on the ball... defensively hes not bad at all.. Diaby has the potential to become a big player for Arsenal.. has excellent physical presence in the middle, good technical ability and drive, and can score goals...

Lucas is yet to prove he can even be solid ... much as we'd all like to make him out to be something hes not, we need to realize that hes some way from becoming a good enough player at this level... we'll see in the next few games how he does if hes played in the current setup.. for now, all i can hope for is that Lucas' presence in our starting 11 doesnt cost us points...

Lucas p!sses all over them three mate , you could have picked three better . Lucas is growing into his midfield role now ,you will see a different player this season .

Plain and simple.........Lucas is !...why all of a sudden are these people with short memories trying to "play up (useless) Lucas"?.......just because he had a half decent game...against a less than half decent side (stoke) all of a sudden he has become "St Lucas" ....well he dont cut the mustard with me....or with many other LFC fans either...lets see St Lucas play as well in the forthcoming games against better opposition ie...villa, chelsea...or will he be overun again and disapear up his own [email]Ars@hole...just[/email] like he did at Totenham.