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Postby redsince2001 » Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:59 pm

Bammo wrote:Because that's how deals work these days. By the same logic, why should we pay another club when one of our players scores? Why should we pay when they play for certain numbers of games for us?

By including clauses like these it means that both the buying and selling clubs are happy. If it was a flat fee, Roma would want more than 20m Euros. By including the clauses we give them an incentive to sell to us cheaper and we only end up paying more if he is a good player for us. If he's bad then we sell him on (e.g. Keane) and don't pay the add ons.

Because of the huge fees involved in the game today the days of actually paying for a transfer upfront are gone. It's all paid in instalments and clauses which is why Portsmouth still owed us for Crouch and why Utd are still to pay fully for Rooney.

So to answer your question, the CL clause is more to delay us paying them money. We'll have earned the £300k on interest in the bank (assuming we have any :p ) by the time we need to pay it.

ehat you are talking about (added incentives ) are player specific .. i.e .... the player scores goals... plays a certain amount of games for the club ... we pay a sum to the concerned club ..... but why should CL qualification ... something that is more of a certainty (as opposed to winning the league).... and something which has more to do with performance of the  club rather than the player concerned ... be involved in d incentives part ?


i have no problem with the other clauses in the deal ....only the CL qualification clause strikes me as bit odd... bad business. Anyways ... what's done is done. peace  :cool:  :)
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Postby aCe' » Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:04 pm

Toffeehater wrote:To be fair the only other left back they have is grosso and if dossena can replicate the form he showed in the italian league , he'd be their first choice for sure. He has looked better towards the tail end of last season , he's a goal threat , crossing is good , he's got it in him somewhere to be a good player.

highlight of his international career was an own goal against Brazil..
Grosso netted the world cup winner ...  :glare:

Safe to say any manager with half a brain would go for Grosso (when fit, which he hasnt been for a while) ahead of Dossena... they also have other options who are imo much better than Dossena... Zambrotta, the 2 Juve kids, Tonetto or whatever his name is from Roma, even Chiellini could go back to playing there for them if they can figure out who to play in the middle...
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Postby tubby » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:25 pm

Toffeehater wrote:To be fair the only other left back they have is grosso and if dossena can replicate the form he showed in the italian league , he'd be their first choice for sure. He has looked better towards the tail end of last season , he's a goal threat , crossing is good , he's got it in him somewhere to be a good player.

He only looked better when he was pushing up as a LM and not as LB. As has always looked a nightmare.
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Postby Bammo » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:28 pm

@redsince2001:

I guess the CL qualification is just a more realistic target for Roma to set, that's all. If we were winning leagues every year they'd probably have just set that as a target. Purslow probably views it more as an extra £900k spread over 3 years. I don't know the details of this particular deal but it's probably got conditions in that Aquilani has to play a certain number of games for it to come into effect so that it would imply he'd made a contribution to the achievement.

Like I've said before, most deals nowadays are based on credit rather than actual exchanges taking place up front. That's the ridiculous culture we live in (and why we're in recession). I'd be happy for UEFA to put rules in place saying transfers can only take place if fees are paid up front. Player prices would drop to more realistic levels, wages would hopefully start to fall to reflect that - why pay a guy £5-10m a year in wages if he only costs £5m.

If I was in charge of UEFA I'd have the game sorted in a matter of months... :D
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Postby bigmick » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:28 pm

Toffeehater wrote:To be fair the only other left back they have is grosso and if dossena can replicate the form he showed in the italian league , he'd be their first choice for sure. He has looked better towards the tail end of last season , he's a goal threat , crossing is good , he's got it in him somewhere to be a good player.

Toff give it up mate. He is absolutely awful.
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Postby tubby » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:22 pm

bigmick wrote:
Toffeehater wrote:To be fair the only other left back they have is grosso and if dossena can replicate the form he showed in the italian league , he'd be their first choice for sure. He has looked better towards the tail end of last season , he's a goal threat , crossing is good , he's got it in him somewhere to be a good player.

Toff give it up mate. He is absolutely awful.

Im actually a little scared he is still with us. With Aurelio out for the start of the season I hope he doesn't get any bright ideas like starting with Dossena at LB ahead of Insua.
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Postby Nando26 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:27 am

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bigmick wrote:
Toffeehater wrote:To be fair the only other left back they have is grosso and if dossena can replicate the form he showed in the italian league , he'd be their first choice for sure. He has looked better towards the tail end of last season , he's a goal threat , crossing is good , he's got it in him somewhere to be a good player.

Toff give it up mate. He is absolutely awful.

Im actually a little scared he is still with us. With Aurelio out for the start of the season I hope he doesn't get any bright ideas like starting with Dossena at LB ahead of Insua.

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Postby JoeTerp » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:46 am

who cares about 255 thousand pounds a season. We will make that up easily in loading off reserve deadwood every year.
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Postby Toffeehater » Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:47 am

feck off you bunch of pessimistic lot :D
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Postby Toffeehater » Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:19 am

AQUILANI IS JUST FAB, SAYS CAPELLO

ENGLAND boss Fabio Capello last night hailed Alberto Aquilani as the perfect replacement at Liverpool for Xabi Alonso.

And Capello should know, having given midfielder Aquilani his debut when he was in charge at Roma.


The England manager said: “I know Aquilani very well as I gave him his first game at Roma.


“He’s a really interesting player and, at 25, this is a good moment for him to move from Italy to England. His style of play is the same as Alonso’s.”


Italian international Aquilani is joining Liverpool for £20million to take over from Alonso, who finally moved to Real Madrid last week in a £30m deal.


Aquilani has passed his medical with Liverpool and agreed a five-year contract at Anfield. Meanwhile, Alonso – who spent five brilliant years at Liverpool – has revealed he ended his illustrious reign in just two hours.


That’s how long it took the Madrid-bound Spanish star to thrash out an exit strategy with boss Rafa Benitez.


Alonso said: “Yes, my departure was very hasty. It all happened so fast I didn’t have time to say goodbye properly.


“But I will return to bid farewell as soon as I have the chance.”
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Postby lakes10 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:03 am

at the weekend there was talk at the club that his frist game could be Man U 25 October.
they say things are going well but a few days ago he had a small setback and thins might take a full 8 weeks to be fit but if it changes he will be given a few run outs in the reserves from the start of October.
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Postby heimdall » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:57 am

lakes10 wrote:at the weekend there was talk at the club that his frist game could be Man U 25 October.
they say things are going well but a few days ago he had a small setback and thins might take a full 8 weeks to be fit but if it changes he will be given a few run outs in the reserves from the start of October.

anybody else thinking the medical wasn't quite stringent enough, ffs how many more players can we get injured before the start of the season.  :no  :no
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Postby Ciggy » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:00 am

heimdall wrote:
lakes10 wrote:at the weekend there was talk at the club that his frist game could be Man U 25 October.
they say things are going well but a few days ago he had a small setback and thins might take a full 8 weeks to be fit but if it changes he will be given a few run outs in the reserves from the start of October.

anybody else thinking the medical wasn't quite stringent enough, ffs how many more players can we get injured before the start of the season.  :no  :no

His injury has healed he is just not match fit yet.
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Postby Ciggy » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:01 am

Toffeehater wrote:Alonso said: “Yes, my departure was very hasty. It all happened so fast I didn’t have time to say goodbye properly.


“But I will return to bid farewell as soon as I have the chance.”

Dont bother  :glare:
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Postby heimdall » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:23 am

Ciggy wrote:
heimdall wrote:
lakes10 wrote:at the weekend there was talk at the club that his frist game could be Man U 25 October.
they say things are going well but a few days ago he had a small setback and thins might take a full 8 weeks to be fit but if it changes he will be given a few run outs in the reserves from the start of October.

anybody else thinking the medical wasn't quite stringent enough, ffs how many more players can we get injured before the start of the season.  :no  :no

His injury has healed he is just not match fit yet.

huh?? so it will take him 2 months to get match fit, how fecking unfit is he??  :D
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