bavlondon wrote:Well at least now we know now there is no new people coming into the club. A bit of a damper after this Rafa news,
Please explain?
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by GRAHAM01 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:10 pm
Bad Bob wrote:bavlondon wrote:Well at least now we know now there is no new people coming into the club. A bit of a damper after this Rafa news,
Please explain?
hicks been on ssn saying they staying ( twit and tw@t that is ) and want to stay for a long time
if you want some come get some!
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by GYBS » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:12 pm
Hicks never feared Rafa exit
Reds co-owner always expected contract agreement
Last updated: 19th March 2009
Hicks: Was never worried
Liverpool co-owner Tom Hicks insists he never feared manager Rafa Benitez would not sign a new contract at Anfield.
Benitez - who took over on Merseyside in 2004 - ended months of speculation on Wednesday evening by agreeing a fresh five-year deal with the Premier League outfit.
It had been rumoured that the former Valencia boss was ready to quit the Reds due to a disagreement with Hicks and co-owner George Gillett regarding his level of control over transfer policy.
But Hicks is adamant that he never doubted that the Spaniard would put pen-to-paper on new terms.
"I have never been worried about whether he was going to sign because I know that Rafa has such a passion for Liverpool," Hicks told Sky Sports News.
"I have looked him in the eye and I know that. But these things are complicated. A five-year contract is complicated and I am relieved we have finally got it done."
Bust-up
Hicks has also played down suggestions of a bust-up over Benitez's influence in transfer matters and the recruitment plans of the club's academy.
The Texas-based businessman maintains that promises have not been made regarding an increased say over a transfer budget and he states that a new chief executive - who will replace the outgoing Rick Parry - will continue to play a major role.
"That was never really true," he added. "I sat down with Rafa a couple of months ago and he knows the manager can't have control over the transfer budget.
"He has had his frustrations over the past five years, but he will make the recommendations about which players we sign, and the new chief executive and the owners and the board will make the final financial commitment.
"That is the way it needs to be and will be in English football.
"We really haven't had to make promises to Rafa. He knows we want to win.
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"If you look back at the last two years, we have followed his recommendations. We signed (Fernando) Torres, extended (Jose) Reina, signed (Yossi) Benayoun, (Ryan) Babel, (Martin) Skrtel, (Javier) Mascherano and (Andrea) Dossena.
"We even signed (Robbie) Keane and that didn't work out. I know we want to re-sign (Daniel) Agger. I think that Rafa is not worried about that.
"Rafa is a professional. He knows he has to work to a budget. A budget will be set every year based on revenues."
Hicks has also revealed that the club are not going to rush into naming a successor to Parry, who is to leave at the end of the season, and has announced that a replacement may not be selected until September.
"A new chief executive will communicate more effectively with Rafa and other members of senior management. I feel very good about the direction of the club right now," said Hicks.
"We are going to take our time (with the search for a new chief executive). We want to make sure we get it right. It may take six months."
Reds co-owner always expected contract agreement
Last updated: 19th March 2009
Hicks: Was never worried
Liverpool co-owner Tom Hicks insists he never feared manager Rafa Benitez would not sign a new contract at Anfield.
Benitez - who took over on Merseyside in 2004 - ended months of speculation on Wednesday evening by agreeing a fresh five-year deal with the Premier League outfit.
It had been rumoured that the former Valencia boss was ready to quit the Reds due to a disagreement with Hicks and co-owner George Gillett regarding his level of control over transfer policy.
But Hicks is adamant that he never doubted that the Spaniard would put pen-to-paper on new terms.
"I have never been worried about whether he was going to sign because I know that Rafa has such a passion for Liverpool," Hicks told Sky Sports News.
"I have looked him in the eye and I know that. But these things are complicated. A five-year contract is complicated and I am relieved we have finally got it done."
Bust-up
Hicks has also played down suggestions of a bust-up over Benitez's influence in transfer matters and the recruitment plans of the club's academy.
The Texas-based businessman maintains that promises have not been made regarding an increased say over a transfer budget and he states that a new chief executive - who will replace the outgoing Rick Parry - will continue to play a major role.
"That was never really true," he added. "I sat down with Rafa a couple of months ago and he knows the manager can't have control over the transfer budget.
"He has had his frustrations over the past five years, but he will make the recommendations about which players we sign, and the new chief executive and the owners and the board will make the final financial commitment.
"That is the way it needs to be and will be in English football.
"We really haven't had to make promises to Rafa. He knows we want to win.
Effective
"If you look back at the last two years, we have followed his recommendations. We signed (Fernando) Torres, extended (Jose) Reina, signed (Yossi) Benayoun, (Ryan) Babel, (Martin) Skrtel, (Javier) Mascherano and (Andrea) Dossena.
"We even signed (Robbie) Keane and that didn't work out. I know we want to re-sign (Daniel) Agger. I think that Rafa is not worried about that.
"Rafa is a professional. He knows he has to work to a budget. A budget will be set every year based on revenues."
Hicks has also revealed that the club are not going to rush into naming a successor to Parry, who is to leave at the end of the season, and has announced that a replacement may not be selected until September.
"A new chief executive will communicate more effectively with Rafa and other members of senior management. I feel very good about the direction of the club right now," said Hicks.
"We are going to take our time (with the search for a new chief executive). We want to make sure we get it right. It may take six months."
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by heimdall » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:48 pm
GRAHAM01 wrote:Bad Bob wrote:bavlondon wrote:Well at least now we know now there is no new people coming into the club. A bit of a damper after this Rafa news,
Please explain?
hicks been on ssn saying they staying ( twit and tw@t that is ) and want to stay for a long time
But how can they, I just don't get it?
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by Kash_Mountain » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:50 pm
I'm delighted with this news. I hope all the infighting stops now. I'm sure that as a result, the players will be buoyed and keep the momentum going. Come on Redmen.
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by tubby » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:51 pm
heimdall wrote:GRAHAM01 wrote:Bad Bob wrote:bavlondon wrote:Well at least now we know now there is no new people coming into the club. A bit of a damper after this Rafa news,
Please explain?
hicks been on ssn saying they staying ( twit and tw@t that is ) and want to stay for a long time
But how can they, I just don't get it?
It's easy. Take out a new loan with BOA (who are new sponsors for us) and shift the loan there. Probably take a bigger one out to get the stadium built as well.
Hicks would not be making these statements unless he had a plan in place to pay of the loan and get the stadium made. Otherwise he would only lose out himself.
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by heimdall » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:51 pm
Kash_Mountain wrote:I'm delighted with this news. I hope all the infighting stops now. I'm sure that as a result, the players will be buoyed and keep the momentum going. Come on Redmen.
You might want to qualify that, are you talking about the potential sale or Rafa's new contract. Choose your words closely.
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by heimdall » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:53 pm
bavlondon wrote:heimdall wrote:GRAHAM01 wrote:Bad Bob wrote:bavlondon wrote:Well at least now we know now there is no new people coming into the club. A bit of a damper after this Rafa news,
Please explain?
hicks been on ssn saying they staying ( twit and tw@t that is ) and want to stay for a long time
But how can they, I just don't get it?
It's easy. Take out a new loan with BOA (who are new sponsors for us) and shift the loan there. Probably take a bigger one out to get the stadium built as well.
Hicks would not be making these statements unless he had a plan in place to pay of the loan and get the stadium made. Otherwise he would only lose out himself.
Well I guess if the US Banks have enough money to reward themselves with bonuses, which is a fecking disgrace by the way
, then they probably have enough to invest in LFC. 
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by Kash_Mountain » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:03 pm
heimdall wrote:Kash_Mountain wrote:I'm delighted with this news. I hope all the infighting stops now. I'm sure that as a result, the players will be buoyed and keep the momentum going. Come on Redmen.
You might want to qualify that, are you talking about the potential sale or Rafa's new contract. Choose your words closely.
Well as the thread is about Rafa signing a new contract...... i'm delighted with that. Why the angry face?
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by tubby » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:11 pm
Kash_Mountain wrote:heimdall wrote:Kash_Mountain wrote:I'm delighted with this news. I hope all the infighting stops now. I'm sure that as a result, the players will be buoyed and keep the momentum going. Come on Redmen.
You might want to qualify that, are you talking about the potential sale or Rafa's new contract. Choose your words closely.
Well as the thread is about Rafa signing a new contract...... i'm delighted with that. Why the angry face?
Because the yanks have said they are staying put to build the stadium.
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by GYBS » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:37 pm
Rafael Benitez can now add a lucrative five-year contract and the increased control he craved at Liverpool to his two other landmark victories in the last seven days.
Benitez's stock could only have been higher as five months of protracted, complicated and occasionally fractious discussions entered their final phase on Tuesday afternoon if he had been able to bang down the Champions League and Premier League trophies on the negotiating table.
He may yet be able to do that come May - but the manner and scale of Liverpool's wins against Real Madrid in Europe and Manchester United at home made this the perfect time to underscore the mood of optimism currently coursing through Anfield.
After being granted greater influence over Liverpool's transfers, a source of irritation for several seasons, and the club's under-achieving youth academy at Kirkby, there was little reason for Benitez not to finally sign the deal that has been placed in front of him on several occasions.
The cards have started to stack up in Benitez's favour in recent weeks after he cast doubt on his future by publicly rejecting a revised contrast in January.
Benitez's professional relationship with chief executive Rick Parry had been strained and, despite protestations to the contrary, there is little doubt the announcement that the latter would be leaving Liverpool at the end of the season removed an obstacle in contract talks.
Throw in two results that added lustre to Benitez's reputation as a master strategist, in Europe if not the Premier League, and he was able to finish off negotiations in the strongest of positions.
The majority of Liverpool fans and former players will greet the decision with delight and a measure of relief at seeing another potential strand of instability removed by Benitez.
Benitez's position should Liverpool be sold on to new owners is unclear, but this is currently not part of any Anfield equation with no imminent buyer on the horizon - and the possibility of any newcomer arriving and instantly disposing of a manager so popular with the supporters an unlikely one.
There is a victory in this too for Liverpool's much-maligned current American hierarchy of George Gillett and Tom Hicks. Hicks, in particular, was adamant that Benitez would sign on the dotted line on his watch and he has delivered.
And there may just be an interesting sub-plot in the united messages of delight from the duo in reaction to Benitez's new deal. Word is that the relationship between Hicks and Gillett, cold at best not so long ago, has thawed somewhat in recent times - perhaps helped by the lack of potential new investors to replace them.
Gillett and Hicks will work together on the appointment of a successor to Parry, although it may be worth their while bringing in Benitez on the process as a man who will hand-in-glove with him.
Benitez, however, is the real winner. Now he must turn his attention to bigger battles ahead, namely the serious business of bringing silverware back to Anfield.
Football's two-faced nature makes it worth recalling that it was only on 28 February that many Liverpool fans took to the airwaves and elsewhere in highly-critical fashion against Benitez after a 2-0 defeat at Middlesbrough, a result which appeared to put the title out of reach.
Since then a new mood has swept over Anfield with those dismissals of Real and Manchester United and Benitez's popularity has been restored.
No-one has ever doubted Benitez's mastery of the European game and the Real Madrid result merely emphasised what we already knew, but the win at Old Trafford was arguably even more remarkable - although final judgement on the season and Benitez's influence upon it must be reserved until the trophies are handed out.
I have been critical of Benitez on occasions this season, but he is a plotter par excellence in Europe and deserves huge credit for what he has achieved in the Champions League since his arrival at Anfield.
He now has five more years to bring the Premier League back to Liverpool, presuming he does not fashion a remarkable title triumph this season.
It is must be safely assumed that Benitez has been satisfied on the all the points troubling him - chain of command, transfer policy, influence over the academy, his position under new ownership - to have agreed to sign his deal.
So it is to be hoped he will now keep away from the politicking and stick to football. This is his area of expertise and there has been too much airing of Liverpool's dirty linen in public in recent times.
This, in many ways, is the perfect marriage. Liverpool are currently unlikely to secure a better manager than Benitez and he will not find a better club to showcase his talents than Liverpool - and I happily include Real Madrid, Inter Milan and others in that statement.
He may have been part of Real's family in the past, but it is a highly-dysfunctional and distant relative now and Benitez would never have the control he has at Anfield at the Bernabeu.
And if Jose Mourinho is struggling to rid Inter Milan of its demons, a club where seemingly only winning the Champions League will do, Benitez is much better off at Anfield, so the announcement of his new deal is a win for the manager and a win for Liverpool.
If the majority of Liverpool's supporters had been asked to script the last 10 days, their storyline would have contained the thrashing of Real Madrid and Manchester United followed by Benitez ending speculation he would leave Anfield.
Now it is up to Benitez to see if he can fashion the perfect season finale for them
Benitez's stock could only have been higher as five months of protracted, complicated and occasionally fractious discussions entered their final phase on Tuesday afternoon if he had been able to bang down the Champions League and Premier League trophies on the negotiating table.
He may yet be able to do that come May - but the manner and scale of Liverpool's wins against Real Madrid in Europe and Manchester United at home made this the perfect time to underscore the mood of optimism currently coursing through Anfield.
After being granted greater influence over Liverpool's transfers, a source of irritation for several seasons, and the club's under-achieving youth academy at Kirkby, there was little reason for Benitez not to finally sign the deal that has been placed in front of him on several occasions.
The cards have started to stack up in Benitez's favour in recent weeks after he cast doubt on his future by publicly rejecting a revised contrast in January.
Benitez's professional relationship with chief executive Rick Parry had been strained and, despite protestations to the contrary, there is little doubt the announcement that the latter would be leaving Liverpool at the end of the season removed an obstacle in contract talks.
Throw in two results that added lustre to Benitez's reputation as a master strategist, in Europe if not the Premier League, and he was able to finish off negotiations in the strongest of positions.
The majority of Liverpool fans and former players will greet the decision with delight and a measure of relief at seeing another potential strand of instability removed by Benitez.
Benitez's position should Liverpool be sold on to new owners is unclear, but this is currently not part of any Anfield equation with no imminent buyer on the horizon - and the possibility of any newcomer arriving and instantly disposing of a manager so popular with the supporters an unlikely one.
There is a victory in this too for Liverpool's much-maligned current American hierarchy of George Gillett and Tom Hicks. Hicks, in particular, was adamant that Benitez would sign on the dotted line on his watch and he has delivered.
And there may just be an interesting sub-plot in the united messages of delight from the duo in reaction to Benitez's new deal. Word is that the relationship between Hicks and Gillett, cold at best not so long ago, has thawed somewhat in recent times - perhaps helped by the lack of potential new investors to replace them.
Gillett and Hicks will work together on the appointment of a successor to Parry, although it may be worth their while bringing in Benitez on the process as a man who will hand-in-glove with him.
Benitez, however, is the real winner. Now he must turn his attention to bigger battles ahead, namely the serious business of bringing silverware back to Anfield.
Football's two-faced nature makes it worth recalling that it was only on 28 February that many Liverpool fans took to the airwaves and elsewhere in highly-critical fashion against Benitez after a 2-0 defeat at Middlesbrough, a result which appeared to put the title out of reach.
Since then a new mood has swept over Anfield with those dismissals of Real and Manchester United and Benitez's popularity has been restored.
No-one has ever doubted Benitez's mastery of the European game and the Real Madrid result merely emphasised what we already knew, but the win at Old Trafford was arguably even more remarkable - although final judgement on the season and Benitez's influence upon it must be reserved until the trophies are handed out.
I have been critical of Benitez on occasions this season, but he is a plotter par excellence in Europe and deserves huge credit for what he has achieved in the Champions League since his arrival at Anfield.
He now has five more years to bring the Premier League back to Liverpool, presuming he does not fashion a remarkable title triumph this season.
It is must be safely assumed that Benitez has been satisfied on the all the points troubling him - chain of command, transfer policy, influence over the academy, his position under new ownership - to have agreed to sign his deal.
So it is to be hoped he will now keep away from the politicking and stick to football. This is his area of expertise and there has been too much airing of Liverpool's dirty linen in public in recent times.
This, in many ways, is the perfect marriage. Liverpool are currently unlikely to secure a better manager than Benitez and he will not find a better club to showcase his talents than Liverpool - and I happily include Real Madrid, Inter Milan and others in that statement.
He may have been part of Real's family in the past, but it is a highly-dysfunctional and distant relative now and Benitez would never have the control he has at Anfield at the Bernabeu.
And if Jose Mourinho is struggling to rid Inter Milan of its demons, a club where seemingly only winning the Champions League will do, Benitez is much better off at Anfield, so the announcement of his new deal is a win for the manager and a win for Liverpool.
If the majority of Liverpool's supporters had been asked to script the last 10 days, their storyline would have contained the thrashing of Real Madrid and Manchester United followed by Benitez ending speculation he would leave Anfield.
Now it is up to Benitez to see if he can fashion the perfect season finale for them
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by maguskwt » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:40 pm
Great news...
Now listen... I don't believe rafa deserves the full 5 years of his new contract at this point in time, not yet, but he does deserve another 2 more years IMO. What's important here is we're giving more time and stability to a promising manager. So if he wins the league title within this 2 years the owners won't need to offer him a new contract again... if he doesn't there's nothing stopping the owners from sacking him in 2 or 3 years time... but rafa did deserve a contract extension... hopefully now our team will react to the great news and play even better...
Now listen... I don't believe rafa deserves the full 5 years of his new contract at this point in time, not yet, but he does deserve another 2 more years IMO. What's important here is we're giving more time and stability to a promising manager. So if he wins the league title within this 2 years the owners won't need to offer him a new contract again... if he doesn't there's nothing stopping the owners from sacking him in 2 or 3 years time... but rafa did deserve a contract extension... hopefully now our team will react to the great news and play even better...
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by tubby » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:13 pm
Hicks says Benitez won't rule Liverpool transfers
LONDON (AP) -Liverpool co-owner Tom Hicks confirmed Thursday that Rafa Benitez will not have full control over transfers despite the manager having held out for a more powerful role before signing a new contract.
Benitez ended uncertainty over his future on Wednesday by agreeing to a five-year deal. He rejected an initial offer in January because he wanted more say over transfers and youth development. Hicks, who also owns the Texas Rangers and the Dallas Stars, said the manager accepted that the board would still have final say over which players the club selects.
"I sat down with Rafa a couple of months ago and he made it very clear that he knows a manager can't have control over transfer budget,'' Hicks told Sky Sports News. "He has had his frustrations over the last five years and those are well chronicled, but he will make the recommendations about which players we sign and the new CEO, the owners and the board will make the final financial commitment. And that is the way it needs to be.''
George Gillett Jr. is Hicks' partner at Liverpool and owner of the Montreal Canadiens.
The Premier League club's American owners are looking for a new chief executive after Rick Parry announced three weeks ago that he would step down at the end of the season.
Benitez's strained relationship with Parry over transfers had been seen to be a stumbling block in his contract negotiations.
"I've never been worried about whether he would sign because Rafa has such a passion for the club, but these things are complicated and I'm relieved we got it done,'' Hicks said.
LONDON (AP) -Liverpool co-owner Tom Hicks confirmed Thursday that Rafa Benitez will not have full control over transfers despite the manager having held out for a more powerful role before signing a new contract.
Benitez ended uncertainty over his future on Wednesday by agreeing to a five-year deal. He rejected an initial offer in January because he wanted more say over transfers and youth development. Hicks, who also owns the Texas Rangers and the Dallas Stars, said the manager accepted that the board would still have final say over which players the club selects.
"I sat down with Rafa a couple of months ago and he made it very clear that he knows a manager can't have control over transfer budget,'' Hicks told Sky Sports News. "He has had his frustrations over the last five years and those are well chronicled, but he will make the recommendations about which players we sign and the new CEO, the owners and the board will make the final financial commitment. And that is the way it needs to be.''
George Gillett Jr. is Hicks' partner at Liverpool and owner of the Montreal Canadiens.
The Premier League club's American owners are looking for a new chief executive after Rick Parry announced three weeks ago that he would step down at the end of the season.
Benitez's strained relationship with Parry over transfers had been seen to be a stumbling block in his contract negotiations.
"I've never been worried about whether he would sign because Rafa has such a passion for the club, but these things are complicated and I'm relieved we got it done,'' Hicks said.
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