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by **maypaxvobiscum** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:49 am

actually Misty, i rated Pennant loads i thought he had an awesome game against Milan and always does well against Chelsea. on his day id play him ahead of Benayoun. i just dont know whats going on with him. judging from the pics he seems to party more. its disappointing as i know he is the most capable right winger we have.

by **theanfieldgank** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:33 pm

what's the matter with Boss Rafa?..Pennant is till jobless.. it's seems
almost never pick Pennant up, so he can show his turn..

by **aCe'** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:16 pm

pennant is still the best option we have down the right side...
benayoun, Kuyt, Elzhar...all not good enough to play there... Benny shouldnt play for any side with any sort of title ambitions... kuyt is a hard worker but a :censored:

player and doesnt offer anything down the right hand side... if he doesnt score he offers fck all in terms of creativity and flair... in fact id go as far as saying hes a detriment to our attacking play more often than not...his poor passing, movements and touch allow defenders to organize better and close down our other players better... its a joke that Pennant cant even get a game with the players we have playing there and offering absolutely nothing

by **Petar** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:41 am

Yes it is a joke. He gave as fluidity whenever he played. He could beat his man,he is fast,sklifull. I don`t know why people don`t like him. But what I know is that we played best games under Rafa when JP was playing. He always was one of the best on the pitch

by **Petar** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:57 pm

I can argue all day long about JP. The thing that makes me laugh is that END PRODUCT thing. When he takes the ball,he can beat his man,he can pass good through ball and what is the most important thing in football,he can dribble and it is hard to take him ball away. If he is sorounded with less hardworkers,he could actually play some nice footie,cause he is capable of it. But not on his own.

by **Alex G.** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:45 pm

Petar wrote:I can argue all day long about JP. The thing that makes me laugh is that END PRODUCT thing. When he takes the ball,he can beat his man,he can pass good through ball and what is the most important thing in football,he can dribble and it is hard to take him ball away. If he is sorounded with less hardworkers,he could actually play some nice footie,cause he is capable of it. But not on his own.

Agreed. He adds variants to our game, he is different to Kuyt and Benayoun. He can beat his man.

by **roberto green** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:56 pm

Alex G. wrote:
Petar wrote:I can argue all day long about JP. The thing that makes me laugh is that END PRODUCT thing. When he takes the ball,he can beat his man,he can pass good through ball and what is the most important thing in football,he can dribble and it is hard to take him ball away. If he is sorounded with less hardworkers,he could actually play some nice footie,cause he is capable of it. But not on his own.

Agreed. He adds variants to our game, he is different to Kuyt and Benayoun. He can beat his man.

Totally don't agree,he is a player who doesn't give it :censored:

whether he plays or not and who can get past a man but what does he try to do then, he turns around and tries to beat him again and loses the ball,he has never shown any passion what so ever and is case of a talented player with no brain and the wrong attitude. :nod

LFC Uber Elite Super Member · by **LFC Uber Elite Super Member** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:58 am

Petar wrote:If he is sorounded with less hardworkers,he could actually play some nice footie,cause he is capable of it. But not on his own.

Are you trying to say that if he was surrounded by lazy :censored:

players he would look good?

As for end product, the CL final loss to Milan was IMO his best game, you couldn't ask any more of a player he ran his guts out the entire game, time and again getting into dangerous positions, yet in the end he produced nothing, not one decent shot, cross or pass to speak of, IMO he lacks the quality to make the RW his own, decent enough squad player and well worth hanging on to.

by **Alex G.** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:47 pm

Anyone from here thinks Benayoun is a better choice than Pennant for the right wing??? Please....
Have you forgotten already the West Ham game??? I don´t want to think that the right replace of Kuyt is Benayoun. No way.

by **aCe'** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:31 pm

Pennant is one of those funny players who are just hated by fans for no obvious reason...
hes played very well for liverpool whenever given the chance and yet all you hear is "hes got the wrong attitude" and "theres no end product to his game"....
i dont give a toss about his attitude off the pitch as long as he performs well when playing...
and whats with all the "h cant beat a man" bullsht ?! hes better than anything we have down the right when it comes to beating a fullback and and providing quality crosses... when was the last time the Oh so great Kuyt beat his man and put a cross , nevermind the cross leading to anything if your still talking about end product ?!

one of the main reasons we draw way too many games is because we'r a team thats very very annoyingly and frustratingly slow at starting moves from the back and getting the ball from defense to attack.. arbeloa gives it to Kuyt what does Kuyt do... he passes it back to either Arbeloa or Alonso... end of counter attack... Only player who takes the ball on and tries to run at people or tries to use space atm is Gerrard... Last season he was the one providing most of the assists because he was the only one looking to use the space and free up torres on the counters... We need more players who are direct and can actually hurt teams if they give us any sort of space.... with torres out of the side its going to be even more frustrating watching the team trying to pass their way into the opposition goal... it wont work at times and we'll end up dropping points..

now im not saying Pennant is going to change all that or anything... im just saying given the players we have, the players we'r missing, our style of play, how opposition teams lineup against us..etc etc Pennant should be starting down that right side whenever fit ahead of Kuyt, Benayoun, Elzhar...etc

I dont really understand why most down here dont rate the lad at all... like hes been a terrible player for us for the past 2 and so seasons... he hasnt.. his first season he was 2nd in the assist charts for liverpool and i think only Gerrard and Carra featured in more games than he did.... last season he played some very good football until he got injured and from then on it was lights out for him... give the lad a chance hes shown he do a job for us and we'r really struggling down the right flank at the moment..

by **Petar** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:29 am

aCe' wrote:Pennant is one of those funny players who are just hated by fans for no obvious reason...
hes played very well for liverpool whenever given the chance and yet all you hear is "hes got the wrong attitude" and "theres no end product to his game"....
i dont give a toss about his attitude off the pitch as long as he performs well when playing...
and whats with all the "h cant beat a man" bullsht ?! hes better than anything we have down the right when it comes to beating a fullback and and providing quality crosses... when was the last time the Oh so great Kuyt beat his man and put a cross , nevermind the cross leading to anything if your still talking about end product ?!

one of the main reasons we draw way too many games is because we'r a team thats very very annoyingly and frustratingly slow at starting moves from the back and getting the ball from defense to attack.. arbeloa gives it to Kuyt what does Kuyt do... he passes it back to either Arbeloa or Alonso... end of counter attack... Only player who takes the ball on and tries to run at people or tries to use space atm is Gerrard... Last season he was the one providing most of the assists because he was the only one looking to use the space and free up torres on the counters... We need more players who are direct and can actually hurt teams if they give us any sort of space.... with torres out of the side its going to be even more frustrating watching the team trying to pass their way into the opposition goal... it wont work at times and we'll end up dropping points..

now im not saying Pennant is going to change all that or anything... im just saying given the players we have, the players we'r missing, our style of play, how opposition teams lineup against us..etc etc Pennant should be starting down that right side whenever fit ahead of Kuyt, Benayoun, Elzhar...etc

I dont really understand why most down here dont rate the lad at all... like hes been a terrible player for us for the past 2 and so seasons... he hasnt.. his first season he was 2nd in the assist charts for liverpool and i think only Gerrard and Carra featured in more games than he did.... last season he played some very good football until he got injured and from then on it was lights out for him... give the lad a chance hes shown he do a job for us and we'r really struggling down the right flank at the moment..

absolutely spot on. he is going by the way,out of LFC,sadly

by **redhayesy** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:39 am

Petar wrote:
aCe' wrote:Pennant is one of those funny players who are just hated by fans for no obvious reason...
hes played very well for liverpool whenever given the chance and yet all you hear is "hes got the wrong attitude" and "theres no end product to his game"....
i dont give a toss about his attitude off the pitch as long as he performs well when playing...
and whats with all the "h cant beat a man" bullsht ?! hes better than anything we have down the right when it comes to beating a fullback and and providing quality crosses... when was the last time the Oh so great Kuyt beat his man and put a cross , nevermind the cross leading to anything if your still talking about end product ?!

one of the main reasons we draw way too many games is because we'r a team thats very very annoyingly and frustratingly slow at starting moves from the back and getting the ball from defense to attack.. arbeloa gives it to Kuyt what does Kuyt do... he passes it back to either Arbeloa or Alonso... end of counter attack... Only player who takes the ball on and tries to run at people or tries to use space atm is Gerrard... Last season he was the one providing most of the assists because he was the only one looking to use the space and free up torres on the counters... We need more players who are direct and can actually hurt teams if they give us any sort of space.... with torres out of the side its going to be even more frustrating watching the team trying to pass their way into the opposition goal... it wont work at times and we'll end up dropping points..

now im not saying Pennant is going to change all that or anything... im just saying given the players we have, the players we'r missing, our style of play, how opposition teams lineup against us..etc etc Pennant should be starting down that right side whenever fit ahead of Kuyt, Benayoun, Elzhar...etc

I dont really understand why most down here dont rate the lad at all... like hes been a terrible player for us for the past 2 and so seasons... he hasnt.. his first season he was 2nd in the assist charts for liverpool and i think only Gerrard and Carra featured in more games than he did.... last season he played some very good football until he got injured and from then on it was lights out for him... give the lad a chance hes shown he do a job for us and we'r really struggling down the right flank at the moment..

absolutely spot on. he is going by the way,out of LFC,sadly

goals ratio p1ss poor,kuyt on the right in the same posistion brilliant! you take the p1ss, you two tw@ts really do!!! fecking get a grip,pennant has got the wrong attitude on & off the pitch. if you actually went to a game you or looked up stats like you love to do, you would realise the reason why pennant isn't picked for games,his fecking attitude! when he is given the chance to play for our beloved club he doesn't take the opportunity with both hands & give everything he has, he doesn't give any where near the desire,work rate or passion it requires to be considered for a first team place.

you say you don't give a toss about his attitude off the pitch, as long as he performs well when he's playing- that's just it mate, because of his attitude off the pitch he doesn't deserve a place in the starting eleven, let alone the bench. he is a fringe player with an attitude that stinks & the sooner he goes the better!

kuyt has more desire, heart, & the right attitude that keeps him in the side which is more than pennant has ever shown since he joined us. at least kuyt scores for us, creates chances for his team mates & gives his all every game he plays.

how many games have you been two in the last couple of seasons? not many if any i guess cause quite rightly pennant hasn't played. reason being -his attitude, & lack of end product end of.

LFC Uber Elite Super Member · by **LFC Uber Elite Super Member** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:02 am

Petar wrote:
aCe' wrote:Pennant is one of those funny players who are just hated by fans for no obvious reason...
hes played very well for liverpool whenever given the chance and yet all you hear is "hes got the wrong attitude" and "theres no end product to his game"....
i dont give a toss about his attitude off the pitch as long as he performs well when playing...
and whats with all the "h cant beat a man" bullsht ?! hes better than anything we have down the right when it comes to beating a fullback and and providing quality crosses... when was the last time the Oh so great Kuyt beat his man and put a cross , nevermind the cross leading to anything if your still talking about end product ?!

one of the main reasons we draw way too many games is because we'r a team thats very very annoyingly and frustratingly slow at starting moves from the back and getting the ball from defense to attack.. arbeloa gives it to Kuyt what does Kuyt do... he passes it back to either Arbeloa or Alonso... end of counter attack... Only player who takes the ball on and tries to run at people or tries to use space atm is Gerrard... Last season he was the one providing most of the assists because he was the only one looking to use the space and free up torres on the counters... We need more players who are direct and can actually hurt teams if they give us any sort of space.... with torres out of the side its going to be even more frustrating watching the team trying to pass their way into the opposition goal... it wont work at times and we'll end up dropping points..

now im not saying Pennant is going to change all that or anything... im just saying given the players we have, the players we'r missing, our style of play, how opposition teams lineup against us..etc etc Pennant should be starting down that right side whenever fit ahead of Kuyt, Benayoun, Elzhar...etc

I dont really understand why most down here dont rate the lad at all... like hes been a terrible player for us for the past 2 and so seasons... he hasnt.. his first season he was 2nd in the assist charts for liverpool and i think only Gerrard and Carra featured in more games than he did.... last season he played some very good football until he got injured and from then on it was lights out for him... give the lad a chance hes shown he do a job for us and we'r really struggling down the right flank at the moment..

absolutely spot on. he is going by the way,out of LFC,sadly

He's an absolute gun, better than C.Ronaldo.

by **aCe'** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:50 am

redhayesy wrote:
Petar wrote:
aCe' wrote:Pennant is one of those funny players who are just hated by fans for no obvious reason...
hes played very well for liverpool whenever given the chance and yet all you hear is "hes got the wrong attitude" and "theres no end product to his game"....
i dont give a toss about his attitude off the pitch as long as he performs well when playing...
and whats with all the "h cant beat a man" bullsht ?! hes better than anything we have down the right when it comes to beating a fullback and and providing quality crosses... when was the last time the Oh so great Kuyt beat his man and put a cross , nevermind the cross leading to anything if your still talking about end product ?!

one of the main reasons we draw way too many games is because we'r a team thats very very annoyingly and frustratingly slow at starting moves from the back and getting the ball from defense to attack.. arbeloa gives it to Kuyt what does Kuyt do... he passes it back to either Arbeloa or Alonso... end of counter attack... Only player who takes the ball on and tries to run at people or tries to use space atm is Gerrard... Last season he was the one providing most of the assists because he was the only one looking to use the space and free up torres on the counters... We need more players who are direct and can actually hurt teams if they give us any sort of space.... with torres out of the side its going to be even more frustrating watching the team trying to pass their way into the opposition goal... it wont work at times and we'll end up dropping points..

now im not saying Pennant is going to change all that or anything... im just saying given the players we have, the players we'r missing, our style of play, how opposition teams lineup against us..etc etc Pennant should be starting down that right side whenever fit ahead of Kuyt, Benayoun, Elzhar...etc

I dont really understand why most down here dont rate the lad at all... like hes been a terrible player for us for the past 2 and so seasons... he hasnt.. his first season he was 2nd in the assist charts for liverpool and i think only Gerrard and Carra featured in more games than he did.... last season he played some very good football until he got injured and from then on it was lights out for him... give the lad a chance hes shown he do a job for us and we'r really struggling down the right flank at the moment..

absolutely spot on. he is going by the way,out of LFC,sadly

goals ratio p1ss poor,kuyt on the right in the same posistion brilliant! you take the p1ss, you two tw@ts really do!!! fecking get a grip,pennant has got the wrong attitude on & off the pitch. if you actually went to a game you or looked up stats like you love to do, you would realise the reason why pennant isn't picked for games,his fecking attitude! when he is given the chance to play for our beloved club he doesn't take the opportunity with both hands & give everything he has, he doesn't give any where near the desire,work rate or passion it requires to be considered for a first team place.

you say you don't give a toss about his attitude off the pitch, as long as he performs well when he's playing- that's just it mate, because of his attitude off the pitch he doesn't deserve a place in the starting eleven, let alone the bench. he is a fringe player with an attitude that stinks & the sooner he goes the better!

kuyt has more desire, heart, & the right attitude that keeps him in the side which is more than pennant has ever shown since he joined us. at least kuyt scores for us, creates chances for his team mates & gives his all every game he plays.

how many games have you been two in the last couple of seasons? not many if any i guess cause quite rightly pennant hasn't played. reason being -his attitude, & lack of end product end of.

what are you on about ?!

Some of the best players in world football had sht attitude ON and OFF the pitch and they were still picked because of their ability... Kuyt has a good attitude but is a sht player.... his contribution to the team besides the few (very few) goals he scores is almost non existent when we'r going forward... hes not a right winger or a right midfielder or whatever and his duties given the position he plays require much much more from him than he currently offers...

about the goals ratio thing... not many wingers are well-known for scoring many goals... infact most wingers usually score very few goals and are better known for getting assists rather than goals... as i said.. given the players we have atm id take Pennant over Kuyt to play the right flank every day of the week... and now with Torres injured and Kuyt played upfront, surely Pennant needs to get recalled to the squad sooner rather than later... its starting to get rather silly with the whole pennant situation... sell him if we have someone better up our sleeves but until then just give him a chance to prove his worth...

by **SupitsJonF** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:36 am

Hopefully the rumour is true and stickboy will be going to Blackburn

No where here does it say I think he is a bad player, however he isn't being used and I don't think anything will change Rafas mind so the sooner he is gone the better.

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