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by **Sabre** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:29 pm

Yes, credit aswell to the journalist. I don't like some journos but I have to admit that article was well written with an interest insight on Aurelio.

It has surprised me to read that Benitez was more authoritative in Valencia than in Liverpool. I wonder if it really had to do with him coming from a smaller club or having a worse dressroom than in Anfield, with the likes of Cañizares in that dressroom it had to be a very difficult dressroom to manage.

Also that stat before the article of Aurelio's 8 goals remind me in numbers where it came from his reputation on free kicks. Which sadly we still haven't seen. But his overall game is much closer to his best than anytime before. I'm very glad he has stayed.

by **boodiddy1** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:01 pm

If aurellio's has good has he ever was a t valencia then i don't hope for much improvement. A nice lad but liverpool quality? i think not!

i'd rather have stevie warnock back.

by **Rush Job** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:26 am

boodiddy1 wrote:If aurellio's has good has he ever was a t valencia then i don't hope for much improvement. A nice lad but liverpool quality? i think not!

i'd rather have stevie warnock back.

I dont agree, ive been in the minority on here for a while it seems on my opinion of Aurelio.
I think he is of the desired quality, he doesnt make many mistakes and is always bright in coming forward, with no problems getting back.
The only reason the Drossena debacle hasnt hurt us (we are joint top) is because we have Aurelio.
The problem is he normally plays his self into good form and then gets injured.
Could we get someone better? Maybe but when you take into account he was a free transfer I dont understand anyone who thinks he hasnt been a success.He never looks out of place in the big games either, which shows IMO he doesnt lack quality, I thought he was magic agaist chelsea and lets not forget had he not had to go off against them last season we might have got to another CL final.
What do you think he lacks mate?

by **JC_81** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:41 am

Rush Job wrote:
boodiddy1 wrote:If aurellio's has good has he ever was a t valencia then i don't hope for much improvement. A nice lad but liverpool quality? i think not!

i'd rather have stevie warnock back.

I dont agree, ive been in the minority on here for a while it seems on my opinion of Aurelio.
I think he is of the desired quality, he doesnt make many mistakes and is always bright in coming forward, with no problems getting back.
The only reason the Drossena debacle hasnt hurt us (we are joint top) is because we have Aurelio.
The problem is he normally plays his self into good form and then gets injured.
Could we get someone better? Maybe but when you take into account he was a free transfer I dont understand anyone who thinks he hasnt been a success.He never looks out of place in the big games either, which shows IMO he doesnt lack quality, I thought he was magic agaist chelsea and lets not forget had he not had to go off against them last season we might have got to another CL final.
What do you think he lacks mate?

I am going to hold my hands up and say that Aurelio is starting to win me over slightly. I have never been his biggest fan, I generally think he's not aggressive or physical enough for this league, his set piece deliveries are very poor and he is no goal threat whatsoever despite his previous reputation for being able to score free kicks. Then there is the injury problem - his record is abysmal from that point of view, and although it's not the lad's fault, there's no point in paying a guy 40 grand a week to be in the gym on a rehab programme all the time.

That said, I have seen a few signs this season that things are changing. He has been reasonably injury free, despite the odd niggle, which perhaps gives more chance to assess him properly after a decent run in the side. Positionally he has been good, defensively I can't remember any mistakes, and offensively while his delivery remains poor imo from set pieces, he has supported attacks well, looked threatening at times, and his through ball for Keane's second goal v West Brom shows that he is capable of the killer pass. Then again, maybe if we had a better left back to compare him to than Dossena he wouldn't look quite so good. Dossena has been really, really poor.

At the moment he is a better bet than Dossena when fit and if it's true that he's out of contract at the end of the season then I'd be tempted to offer him a year's extension. If he wants longer I'm not convinced it's worth it with his injury record. It's a position we need to strengthen, or perhaps even give Insua a chance next time Aurelio's out.

by **LFC2007** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:45 am

I still haven't seen him take a good free kick, but his corner taking has improved this season I think. His distribution against West Brom and Fulham was very good, and generally he's played very well, so he's a nailed on starter for me at present (also accounting for the lack of quality alternatives) .

by **Rush Job** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:38 am

LFC2007 wrote:I still haven't seen him take a good free kick, but his corner taking has improved this season I think. His distribution against West Brom and Fulham was very good, and generally he's played very well, so he's a nailed on starter for me at present (also accounting for the lack of quality alternatives) .

Oh theres definitely room for improvement mate but I think his contribution has been much more possitive then negative.

by **red_guy** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:06 am

Rush Job wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:I still haven't seen him take a good free kick, but his corner taking has improved this season I think. His distribution against West Brom and Fulham was very good, and generally he's played very well, so he's a nailed on starter for me at present (also accounting for the lack of quality alternatives) .

Oh theres definitely room for improvement mate but I think his contribution has been much more possitive then negative.

Definitely mate. :nod

by **stmichael** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:16 pm

NANNY RED wrote:I read a nice little article concerning Fabio Aurelio in the Independent . Good insight into the lad an seems a really decent an honest lad to me. Bit of a worry though that hes another one with only 12 months of his contract left

This is what worries me. Would the Mancs ever let a main player's contract run down that short? Never in a million years.

That's Agger, Kuyt, Arbeloa and Aurelio - 4 first team players who's contracts are nearly up and would probably cost £40-50m to replace in an open market.

by **Sabre** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:36 pm

Speaking of Arbeloa St Michael I heard in the radio that he was about to renew his contract, but I still haven't read any article about it nor confirmation.

Arbeloa has earned his contract to be extended IMHO, despite I never considered him my ideal RB for the team.

by **stmichael** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:19 pm

Sabre wrote:Speaking of Arbeloa St Michael I heard in the radio that he was about to renew his contract, but I still haven't read any article about it nor confirmation.

Arbeloa has earned his contract to be extended IMHO, despite I never considered him my ideal RB for the team.

Agree with that. In the last 6-8 games he's come on leaps and bounds imo.

by **maguskwt** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:54 pm

stmichael wrote:
Sabre wrote:Speaking of Arbeloa St Michael I heard in the radio that he was about to renew his contract, but I still haven't read any article about it nor confirmation.

Arbeloa has earned his contract to be extended IMHO, despite I never considered him my ideal RB for the team.

Agree with that. In the last 6-8 games he's come on leaps and bounds imo.

yeah arbeloa right now on the right is better than aurelio on the left...

by **JC_81** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:16 am

Originally started this topic on the 'Valencia model' after the Chelsea game because we were so ruthlessly efficient that day and it reminded me a great deal of the old Valencia.

Since then I have heard a lot more comparisons of the like from both fans and pundits. In fact there is another thread going referring to us as a 'machine' which is essentially the same point I had tried to make with this thread some time ago.

Some have said in this thread that the old Valencia drew too many games and that in the Premiership they'd be out of the title race early. Well, as it happens we are still top despite a spell of 3 successive home draws. Our rivals are dropping points much like Real and Barce did in Valencia's successful period and for me the comparison is getting stronger.

Perhaps the United of last year or the Chelsea of 3 or 4 years ago would be pulling away from us by now, but we are still in there scrapping it out. Maybe this is the season where the most resiliant and efficient side, rather than an all-dominating team, will go the distance.

by **neil** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:38 am

No I reckon the results against man u and chelsea this season have hit them pretty hard early on giving us the opportunity to not rue dropping silly points as much as maybe other seasons, this I believe is something that has dawned on the boss recently.

by **Thingy** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:41 am

Are we playing like Valencia of a few years ago? I think it could be summed up simply in some way. Are we doing to other teams what they did to us at Anfield seveal years ago? Pretty much so. In a nutshell, I think we are edging closer all the time to being like that Valencia side.

by **johnymarcu** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:08 pm

Liverpool does more beutiful and entretaining matches than Valencia! I remember that I saw Valencia matches on Saturdays night (I was 13) and I fall asleep always, that team was boring, very very boring, Valencia won a lot of things it's true, but I can't remember a match that I enjoyed seeing them

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