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by **bigmick** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:52 am

The thing is, I don't think anybody has ever denied that winning the Premiership in this day and age is a mammoth task. Challenging for it though, just for a fleeting second, a few weeks when we are allowed to dream? Perhaps a victory or two over the other members of the big four, maybe a little run around Easter where we briefly loom into contention? Once in four or five seasons? Too much to ask? I don't think so.

Even under Houllier we challenged, and don't even get me started on him.

by **Bad Bob** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:52 pm

bigmick wrote:Challenging for it though, just for a fleeting second, a few weeks when we are allowed to dream?

Two wins on the trot in August and level on points with Chelsea at the top of the table...we're in dreamland now Mick!

by **Number 9** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:55 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
bigmick wrote:Challenging for it though, just for a fleeting second, a few weeks when we are allowed to dream?

Two wins on the trot in August and level on points with Chelsea at the top of the table...we're in dreamland now Mick!

Plus My little Pony is off to join Kewell in the cesspit that is known as Hell and we have signed some fella that no one really knows anything about but everyone pretends to!

We dont know we are living......Good Times!! :buttrock

by **Judge** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:56 pm

bigmick wrote:The thing is, I don't think anybody has ever denied that winning the Premiership in this day and age is a mammoth task. Challenging for it though, just for a fleeting second, a few weeks when we are allowed to dream? Perhaps a victory or two over the other members of the big four, maybe a little run around Easter where we briefly loom into contention? Once in four or five seasons? Too much to ask? I don't think so.

Even under Houllier we challenged, and don't even get me started on him.

i think rotation will be less this year mick, and tbh, i wish rafa would rotate kuyt out of the team a little more tho

he seriously does my head in

by **bigmick** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:33 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
bigmick wrote:Challenging for it though, just for a fleeting second, a few weeks when we are allowed to dream?

Two wins on the trot in August and level on points with Chelsea at the top of the table...we're in dreamland now Mick!

yes I'll concede we are challenging at the moment Bob. In all seriousness, somebody should try and define "challenge" because if we don't win it (which sorry to be the purveyor of doom but I don't think we quite will) then the debate will no doubt rage as to whether we challenged or not, whether it was genuine and sustained and all that.

FWIW I think a challenge is one of those things which is hard to really nail down, but you know it whan you see it. Arsenal definately challenged for it in my book last season for instance, despite finishing a couple of wins back. I guess as far as a proper challenge goes, it doesn't really get underway until after the christmas period but even then, if we were six points clear in November I'd be dreaming along with everybody else.

by **LFC2007** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:19 pm

bigmick wrote:The thing is, I don't think anybody has ever denied that winning the Premiership in this day and age is a mammoth task. Challenging for it though, just for a fleeting second, a few weeks when we are allowed to dream? Perhaps a victory or two over the other members of the big four, maybe a little run around Easter where we briefly loom into contention? Once in four or five seasons? Too much to ask? I don't think so.

Who's saying otherwise? (apart from maybe Lando

)

by **DLS** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:20 am

Liverpool will walk away with the league this year. We're playing way below par yet still picking up the right results. A 0-0 away from home in Europe is usally considered a good result and Liege taught us a lesson so I'd say it was a good result. The two wins in the Premiership were hard faught victories, but we showed determination and grit to fight till the last minute. We didn't let our heads drop. We could have easily accepted draws in both games and thought ourselves lucky but we didn't. We made sure we won.

This also tieing in with the Olympics which has kept Mascherano and Babel out of the side, as well as Lucas, but the Brazillian won't play too often. We've also had injuries to key players (Gerrard and Skrtel). Players who don't know if their coming or going (Pennant, Finnan, Voronin) they might not be involved in the matches but it can still distrupt the dressing room at training.

We've scrapped a fair bit at the start of the season where we're still trying to find our best formation and style to accomadate the new signings and youngsters who've made the step up. It's not easy to get out the blocks instantly, look at United and Arsenal who've both dropped silly points. Are people questioning their ability to challenge? If so, we might as well stop playing the rest of the season and hand Chelsea the Premiership now. The same Chelsea who didn't look over convincing against Wigan. The season is two games in and we're winning games that we don't deserve to. Any other side and it'd be "they're doing what champions do...winning ugly" but us, nah we're never satisfied are we. We always enjoy putting ourselves down, telling ourselves we're not good enough so it gets to the point where the players feel the same way and actually think "what's the point, we're never going to win the league" Well those who think we're not good enough can :censored:

off because this club is going places and the first place we're heading is back to the champions of England where we rightfully belong.

by **bigmick** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:25 am

DLS wrote:Liverpool will walk away with the league this year.

That's the spirit mate

by **DLS** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:33 am

bigmick wrote:
DLS wrote:Liverpool will walk away with the league this year.

That's the spirit mate

I know. Wouldn't harm you and your Miserable Motely Crew to show the same spirt :;):

by **account deleted by request** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:02 am

BigMicks MMC.....sounds cool ...... can I join

by **bigmick** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:25 am

Sirname is Dore by the way.

"Hey I'm Big Micky DEE of the MMC,
And don't accuse me of been rotation-aree,
It's not even an option,
or a poss-ibilitee
But I might be OOTer cos
I live in En Zee.

Westside.

by **DLS** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:46 am

bigmick wrote:Sirname is Dore by the way.

"Hey I'm Big Micky DEE of the MMC,
And don't accuse me of been rotation-aree,
It's not even an option,
or a poss-ibilitee
But I might be OOTer cos
I live in En Zee.

Westside.

This lad deserves legendary status. Well done fella.

by **Bad Bob** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:20 am

bigmick wrote:Sirname is Dore by the way.

"Hey I'm Big Micky DEE of the MMC,
And don't accuse me of been rotation-aree,
It's not even an option,
or a poss-ibilitee
But I might be OOTer cos
I live in En Zee.

Westside.

WTF?

Little early to be on the fanta over in the "En Zee" wouldn't you say Big Mickey Dee?

by **Bad Bob** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:28 am

DLS wrote:Liverpool will walk away with the league this year. We're playing way below par yet still picking up the right results. A 0-0 away from home in Europe is usally considered a good result and Liege taught us a lesson so I'd say it was a good result. The two wins in the Premiership were hard faught victories, but we showed determination and grit to fight till the last minute. We didn't let our heads drop. We could have easily accepted draws in both games and thought ourselves lucky but we didn't. We made sure we won.

This also tieing in with the Olympics which has kept Mascherano and Babel out of the side, as well as Lucas, but the Brazillian won't play too often. We've also had injuries to key players (Gerrard and Skrtel). Players who don't know if their coming or going (Pennant, Finnan, Voronin) they might not be involved in the matches but it can still distrupt the dressing room at training.

We've scrapped a fair bit at the start of the season where we're still trying to find our best formation and style to accomadate the new signings and youngsters who've made the step up. It's not easy to get out the blocks instantly, look at United and Arsenal who've both dropped silly points. Are people questioning their ability to challenge? If so, we might as well stop playing the rest of the season and hand Chelsea the Premiership now. The same Chelsea who didn't look over convincing against Wigan. The season is two games in and we're winning games that we don't deserve to. Any other side and it'd be "they're doing what champions do...winning ugly" but us, nah we're never satisfied are we. We always enjoy putting ourselves down, telling ourselves we're not good enough so it gets to the point where the players feel the same way and actually think "what's the point, we're never going to win the league" Well those who think we're not good enough can off because this club is going places and the first place we're heading is back to the champions of England where we rightfully belong.

I admire your optimism but I just don't see how we're going to walk the league when we have so little money to spend compared to Man U and Chelsea. Arsenal, too, seem to have worked wonders with their youth system whilst are young lads just don't seem to be good enough to break through into the first team.

by **DLS** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:15 pm

My optimism is so high because I have so much trust in the players and manager. I feel Rafa Benitez is good enough to win the league without an open cheque book. If you don't then, that's your opinion.

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