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by **scotkop** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:51 pm

Also read this ... http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N158506080120-1058.htm

by **Big Niall** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:20 pm

Robbie Keane is decent but not good enough for Liverpool. If we had £10m to spend, why not sell Crouch (who only occupies the bench) and Kuyt(not good enough) for another £14m or so and buy a player for £24m i.e. top class.

by **sworth26** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:33 pm

Agbonlahor

by **Boocity** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:43 pm

scotkop wrote:Also read this ... http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N158506080120-1058.htm

The biggest mistake we have made in a long time, definately Houlliers Folly

by **Boocity** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:44 pm

Big Niall wrote:Robbie Keane is decent but not good enough for Liverpool. If we had £10m to spend, why not sell Crouch (who only occupies the bench) and Kuyt(not good enough) for another £14m or so and buy a player for £24m i.e. top class.

Spot on

by **Scottbot** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:54 pm

Big Niall wrote:Robbie Keane is decent but not good enough for Liverpool. If we had £10m to spend, why not sell Crouch (who only occupies the bench) and Kuyt(not good enough) for another £14m or so and buy a player for £24m i.e. top class.

Just as i said in an earlier post - It does strike me that if a player (particularly a British one) spends a few years doing well for the likes of Villa, Spurs, Blackburn etc they get a little bit type-cast in the eyes of LFC fans ie. "He's not Liverpool quality, he might be able to do it for Spurs but this is Liverpool", "This is a different level altogether, he'd have been playing for one of the big four years ago if he was up to it" etc

Why isn't Robbie Keane Liverpool quality? Too easy to simply dismiss him out of hand. Proven Premiership player with a fantastic record who has also performed against the biggest sides and the best defences. What's not to like? Pretty much guarantees you 15 goals and another 7-8 assists. Who you gonna buy with 24 mill? plus remember Rafa would want to buy 2 players if he was selling off Crouch and Kuyt.

by **Scottbot** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:57 pm

Boocity wrote:
Big Niall wrote:Robbie Keane is decent but not good enough for Liverpool. If we had £10m to spend, why not sell Crouch (who only occupies the bench) and Kuyt(not good enough) for another £14m or so and buy a player for £24m i.e. top class.

Spot on

Then the same to you, why isn't he Liverpool quality? What does he lack? ie. Technically, physically, tactically?

by **Big Niall** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:58 pm

I've seen Keane many times for Ireland too and he is a poor enough finisher. He is also a terrible header of the ball, not particularly fast either. He works hard and has some good skills though. If you took away his penalties I say he scores a goal in three games.

I would prefer to sell two okay players to get one good one. Our squad is probably too big anyway.

by **Boocity** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:03 pm

Scottbot wrote:
Boocity wrote:
Big Niall wrote:Robbie Keane is decent but not good enough for Liverpool. If we had £10m to spend, why not sell Crouch (who only occupies the bench) and Kuyt(not good enough) for another £14m or so and buy a player for £24m i.e. top class.

Spot on

Then the same to you, why isn't he Liverpool quality? What does he lack? ie. Technically, physically, tactically?

To be honest with you , it was'nt the bit about RK that I said spot on about, it was the selling of Crouch & Kuyt and spending the £24m. I have'nt got a problem with RK

by **stmichael** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:26 pm

diego would be awesome.

by **LittleHobo** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:11 pm

Big Niall wrote:Robbie Keane is decent but not good enough for Liverpool. If we had £10m to spend, why not sell Crouch (who only occupies the bench) and Kuyt(not good enough) for another £14m or so and buy a player for £24m i.e. top class.

in a perfect world i would like this to happen......crouch and kuyt out and a top class striker in (voronin wouldnt fetch much)

problem is i cant see rafa admitting failure and selling both for less than he signed them for

by **Big Niall** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:51 pm

LittleHobo wrote:
Big Niall wrote:Robbie Keane is decent but not good enough for Liverpool. If we had £10m to spend, why not sell Crouch (who only occupies the bench) and Kuyt(not good enough) for another £14m or so and buy a player for £24m i.e. top class.

in a perfect world i would like this to happen......crouch and kuyt out and a top class striker in (voronin wouldnt fetch much)

problem is i cant see rafa admitting failure and selling both for less than he signed them for

I don't think Crouch would be sold at a loss - somebody like Sunderland would do well to have him.

Kuyt - yeah. Rafa was had with that one. Would we get £5m?

by **Toffeehater** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:05 pm

metalhead wrote:I would have went with Anelka, but he is gone.

Robbie Keane is a good choice, another would be Dean Ashton, I think he is a great player. He is big, strong in the air, creates chances for himself and his teammates, has a great finish and has great work rate. Also, he is a very intelligent player on the pitch.

12m would do it.

ashton is not liverpool material , yes he would be a cheap option but hey when was the last time he actually scored for west ham? Not the best of strikers if u ask me .

Robbie keane would be our best option , proven and adapted to the league, takes his chances well , has the ability to inspire and lead the team

David bentley would also be a another good option but he'd prob be better as a winger like he's playing for blackburn

it's only been a season so we can't rate roque santa cruz yet , we'd have to see if he can perform consistently over a few seasons

Then again we may already have the solution to our problem in our hands , extend harry's contract play babel as a striker , it can't be worse then our current situation

by **Toffeehater** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:09 pm

LFC2007 wrote:If we're going to go down the route of signing a second striker to partner Torres, they must be top quality, we need to get it nailed on this time. Tevez was the ideal candidate, but he's no longer an option which is a shame.

In my view, Robbie Keane is not top quality. I think he's better than what we have other than Torres, but I just think we could do better in terms of quality, touch on the ball, control and pace etc. He's just below the level we require - given the strength of the Manc's, Chelsea and Arsenal.

Anelka - clearly not gonna happen now. Talented no doubt, attitude questionable, but just doesn't fit the position quite right IMO.

Ashton - good player, not top echelon though IMO. He'd be a good one for a club of the calibre of Spurs or Villa, but if we're going to move up a level we need players better than him IMO.

I think Gudjohnsen is decent, but not top quality - he'd be a good solid 3rd or 4th option though, just not a contender for a regular starting place if we want to improve to a new level.

I don't think we'd be able to find a solution in the UK tbh, nobody springs to mind immediately. Those who are available aren't quite up to the level we require, and those who are up to the level we require either play for one of the top four clubs or would cost a fortune.

I think we need to be looking for a player whose touch and control is exceptional - two of the most important attributes in this position. He'll be the player operating in tight spaces in between the opposing defence and midfield, infiltrating space and creating opportunities for Torres and Gerrard bombing on. If the Gerrard-bombing-on option is negated by a congested midfield ala Man U at home, there'll be a greater burden on this fella. He'll need to be pacey, not necessarily powerful ala Ronaldo but not a pushover, he must have a good shot on him, be able to engineer space for the shot and get the shot off in time, i.e quick feet and a high level of skill.

One player that immediately springs to mind, although I don't know too much about him, is Sergio Aguero. I think he's scored 9 league goals for Atletico so far this season which is an excellent return, and although having only seen him a couple of times he appears to fit the bill. Having said that, I don't think it would be financially feasible, and certainly wouldn't fall into the £10-12m bracket given that they paid circa £15m for him.

David Villa is another obvious candidate, but financially unfeasible, and definitely not £10-12m.

Guissepe Rossi's been doing well at Villarreal, and he looks to be developing into quite a talented little player, but I haven't seen enough of him to justify him as a potential signing. Just an idea.

I liked the look of Di Natale when he played for Italy in the Euro qualifiers, I think he's definitely worth a shout. He seems to have the quality, and appears to be the type of player we need.

Fernando Cavenaghi is a possible for sure.

Another I really like the look of is Hatem Ben Arfa of Lyon, but Lyon would be unlikely to sell, and if they did it would probably be very expensive.

Diego of Werder Bremen is top, top quality and he scores plenty of goals - he's probably our best bet I'd say and quite possibly within the £10-12m bracket.

Anyhow, here is my list of candidates in no particular order who might be financially feasible:

Diego
Hatem Ben Arfa
Antonio Di Natale
Fernando Cavenaghi

There are others, but I'd imagine they would cost significantly more than £10-12m, however, if we're looking for real quality at a reasonable price Diego is the best candidate, IMHO.

good post but i think ben afra and karim benzema are upcoming stars , rafa was interested in them earlier , i wonder if he will sign both but not till we have new owners , i hope he does , they are players for the future

by **Toffeehater** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:12 pm

Raj_Xedos wrote:Nicolas Anelka has revealed his dismay at not signing for Liverpool on a permanent basis and admits the Reds’ result is the first one he looks for on a Saturday night.
The France international, who recently made a multi-million pound move to Chelsea form Bolton Wanderers, scored five goals during a loan spell at Anfield back in the 2001/02 season.

But despite a number of impressive displays from the forward, boss Gerard Houllier opted not to take up an option to sign him permanently and Anelka moved to Manchester City instead.

"I have a lot of regrets about Liverpool and theirs is the first result I look for," said Anelka.

"When I went there, I really wanted to sign. It was wonderful and I thought what I did on the pitch was good enough for them to sign me.

does anyone know why we never signed anelka...??

Class that man absolute class :bowdown

We never signed him cos of our great manager at that time gerrad houllier

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