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by **66-1112520797** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:40 am

Fowler_E7 wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:
Reina is one of the top 3 keepers of the English premier league.

I'm not so sure mate, Cech, Van der Saar, Schwartzer, Niemi, Sorensson and possibly Robinson and Given might have a different persuasion on the top three GK's in the league.

are you for real schwarzer, Niemi, Sorenson and Robinson better than reina! Sorenson is about as consistent as Everton winning the league, Robsinson cant kick or throw with any accuracy, Scwarzer makes so many howlers its untrue and Niemi is well past his best. Get real mate.

I dont know how anyone can judge or claim Reina to be one of the top goalkeepers after a sesson and a bit. On that alone it is highly unlikely, plus with reinas hum dingers recently you still stand by that. These goalkeepers I have mentioned have in the prem and pretty good and consistent through-out there time.
Lad I think you need to step back, take ya rosey Reina tinted glasses off and count to 10. Maybe the air you breath might see that although he's not a bad keeper really, he certainly cant be claimed as one of the top three yet its to early, he needs to prove that.

by **Sabre** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:52 am

I'm not so sure mate, Cech, Van der Saar, Schwartzer, Niemi, Sorensson and possibly Robinson and Given might have a different persuasion on the top three GK's in the league.

From that list I see only Cech above Reina, although I must admit I don't know who the fúck Niemi is. Reina is a better keeper than Van der Sar now that he's aged, and also when this one was younger.

I have only the basics to rate a keeper -not an expert-, but for what I've seen Schwrtzer Robinson and Given are miles behind Reina. Just my view, anyway.

by **craig da Toxteth iron** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:56 am

If I was Rafa I would give Reina 1 more game for him not to make a mistake. I don’t know why Rafa didn’t sold Dudek & didn’t keep Scott Carson who will be England’s no.1 in the future.

by **Espionage** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:06 am

craig da Toxteth iron wrote:If I was Rafa I would give Reina 1 more game for him not to make a mistake. I don’t know why Rafa didn’t sold Dudek & didn’t keep Scott Carson who will be England’s no.1 in the future.

Because we couldnt sold Dudek as nobody wanted him, and we didnt need Carson as we had Dudek.

by **Fowler_E7** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:19 pm

Bamaga man wrote:
Fowler_E7 wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:
Reina is one of the top 3 keepers of the English premier league.

I'm not so sure mate, Cech, Van der Saar, Schwartzer, Niemi, Sorensson and possibly Robinson and Given might have a different persuasion on the top three GK's in the league.

are you for real schwarzer, Niemi, Sorenson and Robinson better than reina! Sorenson is about as consistent as Everton winning the league, Robsinson cant kick or throw with any accuracy, Scwarzer makes so many howlers its untrue and Niemi is well past his best. Get real mate.

I dont know how anyone can judge or claim Reina to be one of the top goalkeepers after a sesson and a bit. On that alone it is highly unlikely, plus with reinas hum dingers recently you still stand by that. These goalkeepers I have mentioned have in the prem and pretty good and consistent through-out there time.
Lad I think you need to step back, take ya rosey Reina tinted glasses off and count to 10. Maybe the air you breath might see that although he's not a bad keeper really, he certainly cant be claimed as one of the top three yet its to early, he needs to prove that.

I make my judgement simply on the fact that i beleive has better goalkeeping ability than most of the keepers you have mentioned. Not only is he got shot stopper, he is also a good communicator and has excellent distribution. Along with Van der sar he is the best with his distribution, kicking or throwing. He also is great coming of his line to cut out through balls, and is a sweeper style keeper, i dont see many other keepers in the league who are quick of there line intercepting opposition attacks.

All in all i think he is a very good keeper, with all round goalkeeping abiltity. Very few keepers in this league have all round abilty even though they may be better shot stoppers.

by **66-1112520797** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:32 pm

Fowler_E7 wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:
Fowler_E7 wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:
Reina is one of the top 3 keepers of the English premier league.

I'm not so sure mate, Cech, Van der Saar, Schwartzer, Niemi, Sorensson and possibly Robinson and Given might have a different persuasion on the top three GK's in the league.

are you for real schwarzer, Niemi, Sorenson and Robinson better than reina! Sorenson is about as consistent as Everton winning the league, Robsinson cant kick or throw with any accuracy, Scwarzer makes so many howlers its untrue and Niemi is well past his best. Get real mate.

I dont know how anyone can judge or claim Reina to be one of the top goalkeepers after a sesson and a bit. On that alone it is highly unlikely, plus with reinas hum dingers recently you still stand by that. These goalkeepers I have mentioned have in the prem and pretty good and consistent through-out there time.
Lad I think you need to step back, take ya rosey Reina tinted glasses off and count to 10. Maybe the air you breath might see that although he's not a bad keeper really, he certainly cant be claimed as one of the top three yet its to early, he needs to prove that.

I make my judgement simply on the fact that i beleive has better goalkeeping ability than most of the keepers you have mentioned. Not only is he got shot stopper, he is also a good communicator and has excellent distribution. Along with Van der sar he is the best with his distribution, kicking or throwing. He also is great coming of his line to cut out through balls, and is a sweeper style keeper, i dont see many other keepers in the league who are quick of there line intercepting opposition attacks.

All in all i think he is a very good keeper, with all round goalkeeping abiltity. Very few keepers in this league have all round abilty even though they may be better shot stoppers.

You believe he is a good communicator ? Listen mate I'm not writing Reina off, but as far as his communication goes so far this season I've seen better communication from a mobile phone without a battery.
That may sound harsh to some but I'm fed up with people OVER hyping our players to the max. And yet after they make some big time clangers, their still supposed to be in the top three of the prem, goalkeeping wise. Just because we've bought someone and we support them it doesnt mean there automatically mean there top of the charts.
I'll support and hope Reina turns out to be the goalkeeper we've needed for years along with every other Liverpool fan. But I cannot sit there and say he's one of the top three in the prem. As it stands I think the oppositon will look at him, not as the weakest link, but as a possible weakness or liability into conceeding goals at the moment. He needs to regain his confidence IMO and be more decisive to iron out my confidence in him.

by **alessandromagno** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:46 pm

After a season and a bit, it's premature to say Reina is a success in the PL. Dudek was brilliant in his first season and if you'd asked opinions about him back then, they would all have been rosy. After that he started to make clangers--and now many believe him to be a liability. Reina will have to complete at least 2 seasons at a high level before we say he's a success--and obviously, this is a crucial time for him.

by **JC_81** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:02 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:Top three 'keeprs in England, in no particular order:

Reina

That odd-loking waster we all know as Cech.

Given.

The rest are all sh*t, including the England number one.

Spot on Lando.

Those three are the standout keepers for me in the league.

I suspect if Given had a decent defence in front of him he'd be considered the best.

Robinson is nowhere near the top 3. He's been going backwards in the last few seasons instead of developing his game.

by **redmikey** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:25 pm

sabre ,lando

let the bandwagon fickle fans get on a players back because they don't know any better

lando your in depth tirades are wasted on these feckwit

sabre your in depth reasoning is well above these fecking bell ends

fickle fans please committ harry carry asap love mikey :angry:

by **PabloAimar** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:59 pm

i've been thinking about this for a while and this is the thread which confirms it - you people dont watch enough football. i bet you only ever watch lfc matches n thats it...

reina is NOWHERE NEAR as good as cech, van der sar and given and i can also comfortably say jaaskelainen, freidel and niemi are better all-round goalkeepers.

he's usually a very good shot stopper and a confident kicker of the ball but that's about as far as it goes. he is still a very immature player but thankfully, time is on his side.

by **JC_81** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:17 pm

PabloAimar wrote:reina is NOWHERE NEAR as good as cech, van der sar and given and i can also comfortably say jaaskelainen, freidel and niemi are better all-round goalkeepers.

Nowhere near as good?

I think it's you who doesn't watch enough football mate. You've got a memory like a fu.cking goldfish.

by **Mannyk** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:57 pm

No Don't rotate the keeper . But if he f---- up and costs you a couple games then put him in the reserves until the other keeper f---s up.
Or if there is a genuine reason to rest the player.

It's called competition for places.

by **tel** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:23 am

Sabre wrote:
Reina is a disappointement. Touted as the best young goalkeeper in Spain, he seems a long way behind Casillas.

Opportunist. Last season with so many clean sheets you probably were silent, this season is in it's early stages and you say already he's a waste. He'll prove you wrong. Have you seen Casillas regularly? he also makes mistakes, he's not that good on the aerial balls, and has a worse kick than Reina.

His decision making lets him down. And he is erratic.

I like the lad, but he was lucky to have a well organised defence in front of him last season. This year the defence is less strong, and he's making more crucial errors.

Thank god you like the lad, I wouldn't like to read your opinions about him if you didn't!

There'd be a big difference if we had someone like Buffon in the team. I'm convinced that Chelsea without Cech is not a title winning team. He is as crucial to them as Terry.

Granted, Buffon is better than Reina, he's the best of the world of the second best. But make no mistake, Reina is one of the top 3 keepers of the English premier league.

Last season we had the best, and most organised defence in the league. Reina was far less responsible for our fantastic defensive record than the 4 lads in front of him. They made him look better than he was.

This season, with our defenders not playing to their potential, even Carra making the odd error, Reina is shown for what he is. Nowhere near as good as Cech.

Reina has as much chance of replacing Casillas as first keeper as Bruce Grobelaar has of making a comeback. The fact you'd even suggest it is laughable.

If you can point out to me any goals Chelsea conceded that were Cech's fault, you'd also spare me having a laugh at your expense.

by **Sabre** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:41 am

Last season we had the best, and most organised defence in the league. Reina was far less responsible for our fantastic defensive record than the 4 lads in front of him. They made him look better than he was.

This season, with our defenders not playing to their potential, even Carra making the odd error, Reina is shown for what he is. Nowhere near as good as Cech.

Reina has as much chance of replacing Casillas as first keeper as Bruce Grobelaar has of making a comeback. The fact you'd even suggest it is laughable.

It is indeed laughable you're discussing this with me, I know both Casillas and Reina way before you did and I've seen them as much as 10 times more than you have. Casillas agility makes him a very showy and nice to see keeper, with great interventions, but for every error of Reina, I can find two of Casillas. Last season, and the season before, and the season before, and the season before aswell. Errors like the one that gave Gonzalez a goal last season, and I mean give.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_9sRNoFf5g

And it is laughable to say that last season we had a very solid defence without the colaboration of Reina. If I know ANY thing about football, a keeper must have a close link with the centre backs, and it's really difficult the defence is secure if the keeper doesn't give them confidence. When the keeper has doubts the defence have doubts, and viceversa.

Funny thing is that the doubters appear after a couple of errors this season, I hardly could read anything bad about Reina last season.

by **Ciggy** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:51 am

PabloAimar wrote:i've been thinking about this for a while and this is the thread which confirms it - you people dont watch enough football. i bet you only ever watch lfc matches n thats it...

reina is NOWHERE NEAR as good as cech, van der sar and given and i can also comfortably say jaaskelainen, freidel and niemi are better all-round goalkeepers.

The constant drivel shite you post on this forum, convinces me more and more each day that you are NOT a Liverpool fan.

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