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by **Judge** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:27 pm

Woollyback wrote:right i'm off to claim france as mine then. they haven't got a flag, just some stripes on a bit of paper. that's a lazy effort by anyone's standards and the courts would agree, allowing me therefore to own france

now then.... all i need to do is deport all the natives and it's happy days ahead

why france woolly ?

arent they just a bunch of cheese munching surrender monkeys

by **laza** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:59 pm

Woollyback wrote:right i'm off to claim france as mine then. they haven't got a flag, just some stripes on a bit of paper. that's a lazy effort by anyone's standards and the courts would agree, allowing me therefore to own france

now then.... all i need to do is deport all the natives and it's happy days ahead

bet you dont deport all the natives...

I expect there will be some selected females who get to remain

by **Woollyback** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:56 pm

laza wrote:
Woollyback wrote:right i'm off to claim france as mine then. they haven't got a flag, just some stripes on a bit of paper. that's a lazy effort by anyone's standards and the courts would agree, allowing me therefore to own france

now then.... all i need to do is deport all the natives and it's happy days ahead

bet you dont deport all the natives...

I expect there will be some selected females who get to remain

indeed, i may grant alizee special permission to remain until such a time as she gets fat

by **woof woof !** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:46 pm

puroresu wrote:Well the fact that the British left Africa and then let uneducated military dictators take charge has something to do with the mess Africa is in right now. The people never chose these leaders, they never drew this fake borders and the colonists knew exactly what they were doing when they left Africa. Isnt it funny that the colonists still loved to do business with these so called despots and made sure they kept control of the resources.

For f'ucks sake get your head out of your a'rse , Have you ever been to Africa ?

Seems to me that whatever the "white colonialists" did you'll always find some reason to bleat .

In response to just some of the shi'te your spouting ,

"Well the fact that the British left Africa and then let uneducated military dictators take charge has something to do with the mess Africa is in right now."

Make up you mind ! On the one hand You blame the colonialists for being there AND on the other you blame them for then giving countries their independence and letting the African people choose their own governernments.

Britain generally held elections and the country was then turned over to the party that won those elections .

example

The Party led by Jomo Kenyatta , Kenya's equivalent of Nelson Mandela and leader of the Mau Mau who fought the british for independence won the Kenyan elections . Are you suggesting the British should have told the Kenyan people " we don't like the people you voted for so we're not giving you independence ?"

More sh'ite follows

Isnt it funny that the colonists still loved to do business with these so called despots and made sure they kept control of the resources.

:laugh:

Your grasp of African economics is staggeringly purile.
What do you think would have happend to the newly independent countries of Africa if the former colonial powers had ceased all trade with them ?

I'm not saying that deals made were not favourable to the European powers, but surely thats what everyone seeks in a business transaction .If however the Europeans had ceased all business/trade with the newly independent countries the effect would have been catastrophic.

Until Africa begins to generate some genuine leaders instead of despots it will continue to dig itself deeper into the mire .But what the f'uck , like the President for Life Robert Mugabe you can continue to blame the europeans for all of Africa's problems.

(just turn a blind eye to stuff the african gov'ts are responsible for,like this)

"The systematic invasion of thousands of farms and businesses, wholesale arson, looting and murders have destroyed the economy of this once thriving country. Inflation throughout 2001 averaged 112 percent. Unemployment is officially over 60%. Tourism has evaporated. Literally 3 million Zimbabweans have fled the country, including some of the most skilled nurses, doctors, teachers, accountants and engineers. Before independence the Rhodesian dollar was much stronger than the US dollar. Today two Zimbabwe dollars are barely worth a half an American cent! "

:kungfu:

by **CardinalRed** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:53 pm

It's only since Korea in 1950 that the Yanks have been getting involved in other people's conflicts... Their involvement in both WW1 & WW2 was inevitable but they did their best to stay out until it was unavoidable. After WW2 it was Communism and it's spread that they became paranoid about and now we have a similar situation with Islam albeit driven by where the Oil is... It's pretty much the law of the Jungle out there... The biggest get bigger, and although we don't qualify as a nation in physical size, we do still carry an awful lot of clout. I just came back from my Hols in the US and you wouldn't believe how grateful the Yanks are that we are with them... :cool:

by **48-1119859832** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:15 pm

CardinalRed wrote:It's only since Korea in 1950 that the Yanks have been getting involved in other people's conflicts... Their involvement in both WW1 & WW2 was inevitable but they did their best to stay out until it was unavoidable. After WW2 it was Communism and it's spread that they became paranoid about and now we have a similar situation with Islam albeit driven by where the Oil is... It's pretty much the law of the Jungle out there... The biggest get bigger, and although we don't qualify as a nation in physical size, we do still carry an awful lot of clout. I just came back from my Hols in the US and you wouldn't believe how grateful the Yanks are that we are with them...

U.S.A would bomb England to pieces if we had something it wanted. Don't for a second think we are any safer just because we are allies with the US. Do you actually think the US would risk it's army if England were in a conflict with another country? Not a chance would they. Have you also noticed how the US send their allies into the most dangerous areas of Iraq etc? The US are making this country public enemy #1 by using us to fight their own battles for oil and money.

by **woof woof !** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:02 am

0asis wrote:U.S.A would bomb England to pieces if we had something it wanted. Don't for a second think we are any safer just because we are allies with the US. Do you actually think the US would risk it's army if England were in a conflict with another country? Not a chance would they. Have you also noticed how the US send their allies into the most dangerous areas of Iraq etc? The US are making this country public enemy #1 by using us to fight their own battles for oil and money.

Agree with the general sentiment of your statement BUT unfortunately your statement qualified by a load of garbage .

eg "Have you also noticed how the US send their allies into the most dangerous areas of Iraq etc?

All of Iraq is dangerous but I wouldn't go along with a statement that suggests Basra is more dangerous than Bhagdad and it immediate environs .

by **66-1112520797** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:27 am

The US are making this country public enemy #1 by using us to fight their own battles for oil and money.

Mind you Woof this statement is sadly true, and I honestly believe its time for Blair to pull his plonker out of Bush's bum. And keep a safer distance from him, we could well become infected if not.

by **Ciggy** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:30 am

I know theres a war on but protesting outside anfield tonight is just not on, what the feck as it got to do with football, both teams have got feckall to do with it.
p1ss off and protest outside the embassy in London.

by **woof woof !** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:38 am

Bamaga man wrote:
The US are making this country public enemy #1 by using us to fight their own battles for oil and money.

Mind you Woof this statement is sadly true, and I honestly believe its time for Blair to pull his plonker out of Bush's bum. And keep a safer distance from him, we could well become infected if not.

Again , I appreciate the sentiment but can't support the fact .

The US are not making us do anything . Blame our own government , not the US .

by **66-1112520797** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:55 am

woof woof ! wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:
The US are making this country public enemy #1 by using us to fight their own battles for oil and money.

Mind you Woof this statement is sadly true, and I honestly believe its time for Blair to pull his plonker out of Bush's bum. And keep a safer distance from him, we could well become infected if not.

Again , I appreciate the sentiment but can't support the fact .

The US are not making us do anything . Blame our own government , not the US .

Do you not think Bush has influence on Blair ?

What was all that " Yo Blair " stuff reported the other week where Blair was standing next to Bush. Like a kid in the school playground trying to impress his older peers.

Of course I hold Blair most responsible for our countries decisions, but the fact Blair's Bush's little puppet also leads me to think him and Rupert Mudoch and people alike have a hand in the way Blair decides things.

by **Big Niall** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:28 am

The British prime minister (going way back) has always been a junior member and done what his master in washington told him. Britain left Eygpt when US president told Eden to get out. Reagon invades part of commonwealth without leaving his "friend" Thatcher know (grenada).

Does even one person think the world is safer now than before USA and Britain waged war on Iraq?

by **48-1119859832** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:34 am

The U.S.A know that England won't say no to them because lets face it, the politicians in the house of commons are petrified of the U.S. What also doesn't help is the fact that the U.S says "if you're not with us, you're against us". As we our allies to the U.S we are expected to help them fight their own battles for oil, power, greed and money. The U.S say jump and England say "how high".

by **Big Niall** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:35 am

Colonisation was terrible but values back then were different, any country with the resources was at it and Britain was the number one power at the time. Slavery is as old as mankind. Ireland's patron saint is St Patrick and he was taken to Ireland as a slave about 1700 years ago.

Some horrible things happened but we should try to put them right. Aborigines should have equal prosperity, opportunity, rights as whites and so should native americans and African americans.

A male black baby in USA is more likely to go to jail than college. During slavery the strong males were encouraged NOT to raise their children and today many black men in america still leave their children, add this to poverty, discrimination and low expectation and the end result is obvious.problems today do have roots in things that happened a long time ago.

Colonisation might not be the problem but how the Europeans left without a proper democratic structure behind is.

by **48-1119859832** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:42 am

Niall I understand what you're saying, but these people can help themselves, by making sure and having the will power to change their lives etc. You can't go through life blaming something that happened centuries ago. Everyone has the ability to prosper from the capitalist society we live in, you just have to put the work in and have the will power to meet your goals and aspirations in life.

However I agree for non-whites in the U.S it's quite hard to climb the career ladder, but people can migrate to other countries to better their lives.

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