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[CardinalRed]

Puroresu... you don't have to quote everyone else's posts whenever you wanna put a point across. I'm gettin' the feeling that you're on a bit of a crusade which is admirable but am I the only one getting tired of it...?

                                                                   

[metalhead]

A bit of update:

The b*tch olmert, the prime minister of israel said that israel will widen their military campaign in the south of lebanon, so that means more killing innocent lives and more destruction. The israeli government said that it will take 4 to 6 weeks to finish their campaign. I say its B*llox! because 10 days ago they said that they will wipe out hizballah in a week! now its 10 days and they havn't even got close to any of their goals, what they only did that they destroyed so many buildings, roads, bridges and commited massacres that so many innocent lives were lost. Now they say they want 30 days? B*STARDS!  Our 4th largest city, Tyre is being heavily bombarded, people there are stuck and they can't go anywhere because every road is destroyed in the south. The Lebanese Red cross can't cross to the south of lebanon and sometimes they are seen as targets for israeli aircrafts. People who are stuck in the south of Lebanon are just waiting to die! its horrible! After this war ends, If Olmert and all the ministers aren't taken to court to be prosecuted for the massacres, I swear to you guys that Lebanon will never have peace with Israel.

end of rant

[woof woof !]

After the collapse of the Ottoman Caliphate there were no borders in the Middle East either and the Europeans drew them as well.  Its called divide and conquer!!!  That is the greatest problem in the Muslim world but the West knew that to be the case and thats why they split they carved the Muslim world into nation states.  Like Africa none of these states of scrapped these fake borders but why would they when if it wasnt for these bogus borders these despots would have no rule (which the British and French gave them).

Typical response from someone with a limited knowledge but subject to indocrination .

Before I enter into more ultimately useless exchanges with you , may I ask ,how old are you exactly ? You sound like a teenager fed on rhetoric and a blinding disregard for any view other than the one you have been spoon fed .

[woof woof !]

A bit of update:

The b*tch olmert, the prime minister of israel said that israel will widen their military campaign in the south of lebanon, so that means more killing innocent lives and more destruction. The israeli government said that it will take 4 to 6 weeks to finish their campaign. I say its B*llox! because 10 days ago they said that they will wipe out hizballah in a week! now its 10 days and they havn't even got close to any of their goals, what they only did that they destroyed so many buildings, roads, bridges and commited massacres that so many innocent lives were lost. Now they say they want 30 days? B*STARDS!  Our 4th largest city, Tyre is being heavily bombarded, people there are stuck and they can't go anywhere because every road is destroyed in the south. The Lebanese Red cross can't cross to the south of lebanon and sometimes they are seen as targets for israeli aircrafts. People who are stuck in the south of Lebanon are just waiting to die! its horrible! After this war ends, If Olmert and all the ministers aren't taken to court to be prosecuted for the massacres, I swear to you guys that Lebanon will never have peace with Israel.

end of rant

Apologies Metalhead , this thread seems to have deviated from the original point (I have to plead guilty to being part of it )

I think all right minded members whatever their political standpoint would admit to having the greatest sympathy for the thousands of innocent Lebanese caught up in the war between Neo Nazi Israel and the Fanatical Kill the Jews Hezbullah .

The middle east really sucks .

Stay safe mate .

[Woollyback]

A bit of update:

The b*tch olmert, the prime minister of israel said that israel will widen their military campaign in the south of lebanon, so that means more killing innocent lives and more destruction. The israeli government said that it will take 4 to 6 weeks to finish their campaign. I say its B*llox! because 10 days ago they said that they will wipe out hizballah in a week! now its 10 days and they havn't even got close to any of their goals, what they only did that they destroyed so many buildings, roads, bridges and commited massacres that so many innocent lives were lost. Now they say they want 30 days? B*STARDS!  Our 4th largest city, Tyre is being heavily bombarded, people there are stuck and they can't go anywhere because every road is destroyed in the south. The Lebanese Red cross can't cross to the south of lebanon and sometimes they are seen as targets for israeli aircrafts. People who are stuck in the south of Lebanon are just waiting to die! its horrible! After this war ends, If Olmert and all the ministers aren't taken to court to be prosecuted for the massacres, I swear to you guys that Lebanon will never have peace with Israel.

end of rant

Apologies Metalhead , this thread seems to have deviated from the original point (I have to plead guilty to being part of it )

I think all right minded members whatever their political standpoint would admit to having the greatest sympathy for the thousands of innocent Lebanese caught up in the war between Neo Nazi Israel and the Fanatical Kill the Jews Hezbullah .

The middle east really sucks .

Stay safe mate .

perfectly summed up monsieur le woof. it's a shame the UN can't just "bang their heads together" to sort the 2 sides out like my dad used to threaten me & my brother when we were scrapping

hats off to puroresu by the way, as much as i disagree with his stance at least he's trying to have a reasoned debate rather than just waving the "racist!" card like many others would do   

[66-1112520797]

hats off to puroresu by the way, as much as i disagree with his stance at least he's trying to have a reasoned debate rather than just waving the "racist!" card like many others would do   

I have to echo that statement I totally disagree with what puroresu believes and says, but like Woolly I take my hat off to him for holding a mature and reasonable debate.

[metalhead]

really wolly? the samething with me. Well actually my 2 brother and I would wind up my little brother , so my dad would threaten us 

Why can't the U.N do the same? b*stards!

[66-1112520797]

I hope alls well as can be expected over there Metalhead !

 

[Ciggy]

Metal head I feel for you and your family mate I really do, But I also think the only way the middle east will get peace is that they change their attitude to western society.
I may be right I maybe wrong?
cause some parts are ruthless TBH, and another poster said on the last page that women are treated the same, well he is lying, Ive seen how women have been treated in Afghanistan they where hung up on goal posts on a football feild for wearing makeup .
So either he is in denial I dont know but, muslim women havent got the freedom we have we can marry who we want, maybe just maybe thats what some of these countries are scared of ? That women have a say aswell?
But its your belief and its taugh from the Koran, but I would never have married the first fella I met, and thank god I didnt.

[Woollyback]

really wolly? the samething with me. Well actually my 2 brother and I would wind up my little brother , so my dad would threaten us 

Why can't the U.N do the same? b*stards!

2 against 1, no wonder your dad used to threaten you anyway keep safe metalhead mate

[metalhead]

Metal head I feel for you and your family mate I really do, But I also think the only way the middle east will get peace is that they change their attitude to western society.
I may be right I maybe wrong?
cause some parts are ruthless TBH, and another poster said on the last page that women are treated the same, well he is lying, Ive seen how women have been treated in Afghanistan they where hung up on goal posts on a football feild for wearing makeup .
So either he is in denial I dont know but, muslim women havent got the freedom we have we can marry who we want, maybe just maybe thats what some of these countries are scared of ? That women have a say aswell?
But its your belief and its taugh from the Koran, but I would never have married the first fella I met, and thank god I didnt.

Actually, Most of the Lebanese in Lebanon just love to emulate the western society, its true! even the muslims who say death to america and all that,  are studying in AUB(American University of Beirut) and LAU (Lebanese American University). Ironic? Hell yes! Lebanon is a political construct with so many christians, druze and muslims living together. Thats why Israel aren't hitting most of the Christian places because Hizballah aren't there.

I slightly agree with you about the women in saudi arabia saying they don't have the freedom to marry who they want, they can marry only muslim guys or maybe christian guys who want to become muslims. Because in Islam if a muslim converts he is seen as a traitor and should be punished.

Afghanistan is a country in corruption, but look at Saudi Arabia, the women could choose to cover their faces or uncover it. I'll tell you something weird about Saudi Arabia, when i went with my older cousin toa resturant called "Chilis" here in Jeddah, i noticed that the guys have their own space and the family have their own too. Without knowing i entered the family area and they kicked me out! . There are huge malls here in Jeddah i just bought me some new diesel pants!!   Ciggy, believe me there are so many open minded Muslims (like me ofcourse  ) that would follow their religion well and understand other things.

The only way for the middle east to have a long lasting peace is to resolve their differences between the sunni's, shi3as and the zionists! those lunatics who are the sheikhs are bunch of idiots that just want to criticise the western society and turn muslims against each other! like that Moktada Al Sader in Iraq.

Plus if Israel stops resorting to war everytime a small thing happens then we can establish peace with them.

[puroresu]

A bit of update:

The b*tch olmert, the prime minister of israel said that israel will widen their military campaign in the south of lebanon, so that means more killing innocent lives and more destruction. The israeli government said that it will take 4 to 6 weeks to finish their campaign. I say its B*llox! because 10 days ago they said that they will wipe out hizballah in a week! now its 10 days and they havn't even got close to any of their goals, what they only did that they destroyed so many buildings, roads, bridges and commited massacres that so many innocent lives were lost. Now they say they want 30 days? B*STARDS!  Our 4th largest city, Tyre is being heavily bombarded, people there are stuck and they can't go anywhere because every road is destroyed in the south. The Lebanese Red cross can't cross to the south of lebanon and sometimes they are seen as targets for israeli aircrafts. People who are stuck in the south of Lebanon are just waiting to die! its horrible! After this war ends, If Olmert and all the ministers aren't taken to court to be prosecuted for the massacres, I swear to you guys that Lebanon will never have peace with Israel.

end of rant

metalhead what do you think of your nations army?  Do u feel the state should use them to try and resist the invasion?  I find it strange to see Lebanon invaded yet the official army is still in its barracks.

[metalhead]

A bit of update:

The b*tch olmert, the prime minister of israel said that israel will widen their military campaign in the south of lebanon, so that means more killing innocent lives and more destruction. The israeli government said that it will take 4 to 6 weeks to finish their campaign. I say its B*llox! because 10 days ago they said that they will wipe out hizballah in a week! now its 10 days and they havn't even got close to any of their goals, what they only did that they destroyed so many buildings, roads, bridges and commited massacres that so many innocent lives were lost. Now they say they want 30 days? B*STARDS!  Our 4th largest city, Tyre is being heavily bombarded, people there are stuck and they can't go anywhere because every road is destroyed in the south. The Lebanese Red cross can't cross to the south of lebanon and sometimes they are seen as targets for israeli aircrafts. People who are stuck in the south of Lebanon are just waiting to die! its horrible! After this war ends, If Olmert and all the ministers aren't taken to court to be prosecuted for the massacres, I swear to you guys that Lebanon will never have peace with Israel.

end of rant

metalhead what do you think of your nations army?  Do u feel the state should use them to try and resist the invasion?  I find it strange to see Lebanon invaded yet the official army is still in its barracks.

The official army is ready to defend from any air attacks or land attacks. Ilias il Mur who is the defence prime minister of Lebanon said that the army will defend beirut if Israel decided to invade it. The problem with our army that they don't have the strong weaponry that Hizballah or Israel has. The Lebanese army is very well trained.

Now they will send 15,000 lebanese troops to southern lebanon and they called in the reserves, thank f*ck i have the army book!! it states that i can't go into the army because im studying in university

[metalhead]

really wolly? the samething with me. Well actually my 2 brother and I would wind up my little brother , so my dad would threaten us 

Why can't the U.N do the same? b*stards!

2 against 1, no wonder your dad used to threaten you anyway keep safe metalhead mate

actually 3 against 1

You should see my mum threatning with her slippers

 

Cheers Wolly, I feel very safe in Jeddah, but still depressed on whats happening to my country.

[Ciggy]

Metal head I hope you have a name causeI hate refering to you with that, but mate, I just wish the whole bloody world would get on with each other.
Im f[B]u[B/]ckin sick of it along with my fellow country men and women.
We hate war we dont want to invade the middle east thats your land, we hate our government for being upo Bush's @rse.
But is ever gona stop?
Who is going to stop it?
You have something they want oil, thats it, they dont care about you people there, but you know that already.
So why am I waffling on 
I just wish it will all go away, my son is seven now and I know when I die this will still be going on, and there is no need for it, I wish everyone would just stop bombing and terrorists will cease to excist and everyone can be happy, but its not going to happen in my lifetime, or my sons either.
Just feck off an throw bombs on a desert island kunts
An Al-Queada just all die of aids please