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Postby The Heighwayman » Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:43 pm

is there an argument for cashing in on Owen now if hes looking for that amount in wages, he is injury prone and now that teams know how he plays hes not as effective?
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Postby stmichael » Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:45 pm

i don't necessarily think he's DEMANDING that amount in wages, i just think the board know that they have to do whatever they can to keep him.
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Postby DrLiverpool » Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:02 pm

About midfield

Van Der Vaart + Van Der Meyde

they know each other and have played together


I know it would be hard to get them but if we could....
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Postby JohnBull » Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:32 pm

The Heighwayman wrote:Its great to hear balanced and constructive critism from so many LFC fans. I'm new to the forum and am here as an overseas Irish supporter who has finally decided to air his opinion! I think its now time for GH to move on. He has done a good job to date but the club needs a new manager to provide a fresh input of enthusiam, belief and tactical nous that will re-invigorate the current quality players. He will also have to bring in the few world class players that the team will need to bring us on to the next level. When we were competing with the a#se and mu 2 seasons ago we defended deeply as a unit, every player new his job and with Gerrard and McAlister/Spud in the team providing the quick defence splitting pass, we hit teams on the break and scored alot of goals without concedeing much. Pace in our defence was not a problem as we were always so deep. After we won the treble other managers and teams saw how we played and countered this approach by sitting deep themselves and thus leaving no space for the pace and clever runs of Owen. Add to this the injuries we have had over the last couple of seasons and you have why I believe we are now doing so badly. We have now had to change our approach and break teams down. We got rid of MacAlister ( he was only 39 - Stanley Matthews played untill he was in his 50s - we could have squeezed another few years out of Mac!!!) we got rid of Litmanen/ Fowler. All creative players who can provide that spark needed to break teams down. GH brought in Kewell this seasons and I think we need another 3 or 4 players of this quality. Cisse and Ibrahimovic for upfront to enable Owen to play off a target man with brains (sorry Emile good and nice as you are your down to the bench). Another quality wide mid-field player (keep Smicer and Diouf as cover) a centre back with pace (again keep Henchoz as cover if he'll sit on the bench or wait till Hyypia is injured?) and the most important a creative midfield wizard to complement Gerrard. Jay Jay Okocha might be the man although I've read here that some think he's not LFC calibre- have you forgotten about John Barnes? If you look at the a#se,mu and chelski they now all have nearly a second string set of players that could be fielded as their first team. we need to be able to do the same so getting rid of solid team players such as Spud Murphy, Hamman, Henchoz, Smicer and Diouf, Baros, Cheyrou (who are still young players) is not the answer. vI also think to be abusive towards GH and/or the backroom staff or current players who hae all done their best for LFC is un-called for and very unlike true LFC fans. Although I can understand that teeth grinding frustration in that we are not quite yet where we rightly should be - playing the beautifull game at the top of the pile with grace and honour. Finally the most honourable and right thing for Gh to do this summer would be to realise that he has taken the team as far as he can and step down himself. This will not happen for two reasons pride and money. Apologies for the rambling nature of this post.
Thanks, The Heighwayman.

Good post H but the problem, which has built up over a long period, is that too many of the GH/Management/Board crew are looking out for themselves first and LFC second.
There is a powerful "dont rock the boat" attitude by a gang sailing us on to the rocks.
As far as new signings - they should buy f##k all till they clear out the dead wood from the whole club.
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Postby DEJAN » Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:07 pm

The ideal player is someone who can evade tackles and plan attacks at the same time. The players should be able to hold the ball long enough for the strickers to take their place and make pin point thru balls!!
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Postby adayinthelife » Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:40 pm

Some people here seem to forget what a great draw Liverpool still is to many top young players.This will not remain with houllier in charge but look at Barcelona as an example.
They have not won a trophy for more than 5 years yet they attracted such talents as Saviola,Ronaldinho,Davids,Quaresma,Gerard and Marquez.
Those players would get a game for most teams in the world and we should not lower our sights as they have proved a clubs history can still attract the top players.
Cisse is a player I have seen many times in the last few years and has alot of potential but 14m is a joke when you consider Ronaldinho didnt cost much more.
It is also obvious up front is not where the problems are but houllier as usual has no idea what is needed to improve the team.
Van Der Vaart and Van Der Meyde would be great additions to our midfield and I think would not be impossible to sign.
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Postby Zardoz » Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:42 pm

ronaldinho is pleasant to watch.

but when it comes to actually winning games there are a lot of better players for that.
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Postby bedlovedays » Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:12 am

Mendieta fits the bill,is he available?  He brings some character which has been missing since litmanen ( why on earth did we let him go) and Mcallister left. 

Aimar, how good is he?  Do you think it is possible for us to get one of the Van ders?

Any other suggestions? Please god dont let foolier sign wright phillips..........it's a bit of a wild guess but my gut says he doesnt fit the bill....

any other players out there ,,,,,,,,,,,there must be some talented youngster,,,,for less than 15 mil right??/

lemonhead you are conspicuously quiet,,,,,,,,:p
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Postby Rimetto » Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:56 am

read on the BBc website today that Frank Lampard might be leaving Chelsea in the summer. What a purchase he would be imagine him and Stevie G in the middle.
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Postby woof woof ! » Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:40 am

Rimetto wrote:read on the BBc website today that Frank Lampard might be leaving Chelsea in the summer. What a purchase he would be imagine him and Stevie G in the middle.

Yeah, forget Cisse . Use the money towards getting Lampard,
I wonder if we would have enough left to make an offer for hasselbank,heard a rumour he was unsettled. :)
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Postby Rimetto » Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:01 am

Hasselbank in and get rid of the useless heskey.
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Postby woof woof ! » Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:57 pm

Dudek
Carragher            Henchoz                                 Hypia                      Riise

Diouff                 Gerrard                                   Lampard                  Kewell

                            Hasselbank                   Owen

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Postby stmichael » Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:59 pm

diouf should be sold. if houllier won't play him up front then he should be flogged. he's not a winger and never will be.
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Postby woof woof ! » Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:06 pm

yeah, maybe but who else would you put in that spot  (without buying)  ???
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Postby stmichael » Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:09 pm

without buying i would consider playing gerrard there and giving le tallec a run in the centre.
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