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by **Santa** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:08 pm

red_guy wrote:Yup, hyypia's 2nd very bad display after the chelsea game. I think we should get 2 new centrebacks instead of 1 because i can't see him getting any better..plus, he's past his best / old....

if Hyypia "only" had a couple of bad games after two dozen plus matches, then I wish he played for us till he's 40. Cut him (and the team) some slack. The team from the past few seasons would have lost the match easily and it showed our character and how difficult it is for teams to beat us now. Remember Bolton have not lost at home for more than a dozen of matches and their physical style made them very difficult to play against :oh:

by **H_K_LFC** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:29 pm

A draw against Bolton ain't that bad...They're a good side and from what i heard the game was poor and we didnt play well...But 2 games in 2 days and a win and a draw isnt the worst result

by **JC_81** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:33 pm

I'm happy enough with a draw today, that's what I thought we'd get. We couldn't maintain the winning streak forever could we? And another positive, a draw away to Bolton is something we'd all have taken last season, just shows how far we've come in a season if some of us are disappointed with that.

A few individual mistakes for the goals conceded but we've been so consistent recently that there were bound to be a few mistakes eventually, the lads aren't robots.

Not too many away teams will win at the Reebok this season against those long ball merchants, don't worry though we'll take them apart back at Anfield later in the season.

Patchy performance but a decent result in my opinion, it's gone now so let's look forward to the next game.

by **Erica** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:33 pm

pablinho wrote:any link to watch the goals ?

http://liverpool-football-club.blogspot.com/

by **115-1073096938** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:45 pm

Typical Banana giving Hyypia a 3.

Yes Banana, agreed totally, the lads :censored:

. Rubbish, our worst defender. :no

The lad might have had a bad game, i didn't see it, but one bad game so far in an impeccable season isn't anything to complain about...

by **banana** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:03 pm

stu_the_red wrote:Typical Banana giving Hyypia a 3.

Yes Banana, agreed totally, the lads . Rubbish, our worst defender.

The lad might have had a bad game, i didn't see it, but one bad game so far in an impeccable season isn't anything to complain about...

You did not see it? You must surely have seen how he was 5 yards off the pace on the second goal. That was an easy job for a Ferdinand/Terry kind of defender. And you did not see how he kicked the ball out of reina's hands?

I cannot wait to see who Benitez can find to partner Carra in defence so we don't have to accept such poor performances and have so big weaknesses in our team.

Hyypia was a good servant for LFC for some years but unfortunately he is way past bedtime. Only because we have so much talent in our team we get away with a poor defence. Finnan, Traore, Carra Hyypia. Only Carra out of the 4 would maybe have had a chance at a european top club.

by **115-1073096938** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:09 pm

banana wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:Typical Banana giving Hyypia a 3.

Yes Banana, agreed totally, the lads . Rubbish, our worst defender.

The lad might have had a bad game, i didn't see it, but one bad game so far in an impeccable season isn't anything to complain about...

You did not see it? You must surely have seen how he was 5 yards off the pace on the second goal. That was an easy job for a Ferdinand/Terry kind of defender. And you did not see how he kicked the ball out of reina's hands?

I cannot wait to see who Benitez can find to partner Carra in defence so we don't have to accept such poor performances and have so big weaknesses in our team.

Hyypia was a good servant for LFC for some years but unfortunately he is way past bedtime. Only because we have so much talent in our team we get away with a poor defence. Finnan, Traore, Carra Hyypia. Only Carra out of the 4 would maybe have had a chance at a european top club.

What planet are you from lad?

Have you seen our defensive record this season? You don't do that with a rubbish defense.

Finnan, Carragher, Hyypia and Riise are good players. Hyypia being the pick of the bunch and the rock at the back this team is build around. For you not to see this shows the lack of knowledge you posses on the matter. Yes he lacks pace but he's dominant in the air, excellent positionally and reads the game better than anyone i've seen at the back for Liverpool in my time as a fan including Mark Wright.

He has exceptional pressence and influence and his ability to attack the ball and win headers is second to none. The lads class. Not quality, he's class.

Hyypia, Gerrard and Alonso are the only CLASS players we posses. Stop talking out of you're backside.

You're lack of knowledge, yet insistence on being correct about Sami is not only pathetic, its damn right disrespectfull to a loyal LFC player who gives 100% every game and hardly ever misses a match.

At the end of the day, the defensive record at the club speaks for itself.

by **drummerphil** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:12 pm

stu_the_red wrote:
banana wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:Typical Banana giving Hyypia a 3.

Yes Banana, agreed totally, the lads . Rubbish, our worst defender.

The lad might have had a bad game, i didn't see it, but one bad game so far in an impeccable season isn't anything to complain about...

You did not see it? You must surely have seen how he was 5 yards off the pace on the second goal. That was an easy job for a Ferdinand/Terry kind of defender. And you did not see how he kicked the ball out of reina's hands?

I cannot wait to see who Benitez can find to partner Carra in defence so we don't have to accept such poor performances and have so big weaknesses in our team.

Hyypia was a good servant for LFC for some years but unfortunately he is way past bedtime. Only because we have so much talent in our team we get away with a poor defence. Finnan, Traore, Carra Hyypia. Only Carra out of the 4 would maybe have had a chance at a european top club.

What planet are you from lad?

Have you seen our defensive record this season? You don't do that with a rubbish defense.

Finnan, Carragher, Hyypia and Riise are good players. Hyypia being the pick of the bunch and the rock at the back this team is build around. For you not to see this shows the lack of knowledge you posses on the matter. Yes he lacks pace but he's dominant in the air, excellent positionally and reads the game better than anyone i've seen at the back for Liverpool in my time as a fan including Mark Wright.

He has exceptional pressence and influence and his ability to attack the ball and win headers is second to none. The lads class. Not quality, he's class.

Hyypia, Gerrard and Alonso are the only CLASS players we posses. Stop talking out of you're backside.

You're lack of knowledge, yet insistence on being correct about Sami is not only pathetic, its damn right disrespectfull to a loyal LFC player who gives 100% every game and hardly ever misses a match.

At the end of the day, the defensive record at the club speaks for itself.

Stu cant believe you dont see Carragher in the same class mate.

by **115-1073096938** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:19 pm

Phill i see Carragher for what he is. I always have.

I always have, I've always rated him and i rate him now.

He was never as bad as idiots used to say and he is never as good now as people want him to be. He's a good player however who fits our system perfectly.

by **Lionheart** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:45 pm

Banana...come down of your high horse m8. Every player is entitled to have 1-2 games without having to suffer the wrath of ageist attitudes like yours. Hyypia's too old huh?? Garbage...he'll still outpace most of the EPL strikers and for those he dosn't he will make up for by simply reading the game better. Yeah, Ok, he had a bad one today...we're still intact. It's not like we've suffered a horrendous defeat or anything.

Bet disappointed, your entitled to that, but don't rip the sh.it out of the players because of YOUR disappointment.

Enough said.

by **banana** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:48 pm

Lionheart wrote:Banana...come down of your high horse m8. Every player is entitled to have 1-2 games without having to suffer the wrath of ageist attitudes like yours. Hyypia's too old huh?? Garbage...he'll still outpace most of the EPL strikers and for those he dosn't he will make up for my simply reading the game better. Yeah, Ok, he had a bad one today...we're still intact. It's not like we've suffered a horrendous defeat or anything.

Bet disappointed, your entitled to that, but don't rip the sh.it out of the players because of YOUR disappointment.

Enough said.

You actually believe Hyypia will outpace most strikers?

He had a stinker today. But I do recognize his abilities to deal with long balls and aerial bombardement. Unfortunately Bolton challenged him on his weak spots. And unfortunately they scored first so we had to push forward our back 4 and not defend so deep as we do usually because of our lack of pace. This they took advantage of and scored a ultra cheap goal by simply outpacing our defenders.

by **drummerphil** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:56 pm

banana wrote:
Lionheart wrote:Banana...come down of your high horse m8. Every player is entitled to have 1-2 games without having to suffer the wrath of ageist attitudes like yours. Hyypia's too old huh?? Garbage...he'll still outpace most of the EPL strikers and for those he dosn't he will make up for my simply reading the game better. Yeah, Ok, he had a bad one today...we're still intact. It's not like we've suffered a horrendous defeat or anything.

Bet disappointed, your entitled to that, but don't rip the sh.it out of the players because of YOUR disappointment.

Enough said.

You actually believe Hyypia will outpace most strikers?

He had a stinker today. But I do recognize his abilities to deal with long balls and aerial bombardement. Unfortunately Bolton challenged him on his weak spots. And unfortunately they scored first so we had to push forward our back 4 and not defend so deep as we do usually because of our lack of pace. This they took advantage of and scored a ultra cheap goal by simply outpacing our defenders.

The only disappointment for me is against Neverton our weakness in defence was continually dealing with high ball after high ball.Now Bolton are the best team in the league for that style of play and are lethal at set pieces,did we learn from last Wednesday......not at all.....and lesser teams know our weakness.

by **zarababe** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:04 pm

Last year we would have lost that game 2-0 , this year we alomost won it, having gone behind. The lads have played awesome so far, 10/12 points is great goin.

After a well earned break, the Red machine will be marching again.

Mistakes there will be and tired legs there were today, that's why strengthening at the back is crucial.

by **A.B.** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:15 am

You did not see it? You must surely have seen how he was 5 yards off the pace on the second goal. That was an easy job for a Ferdinand/Terry kind of defender. And you did not see how he kicked the ball out of reina's hands?

I cannot wait to see who Benitez can find to partner Carra in defence so we don't have to accept such poor performances and have so big weaknesses in our team.

Hyypia was a good servant for LFC for some years but unfortunately he is way past bedtime. Only because we have so much talent in our team we get away with a poor defence. Finnan, Traore, Carra Hyypia. Only Carra out of the 4 would maybe have had a chance at a european top club.

Hyypia didn't play well today, however you speak about Hyypia as if he plays badly every week. Clearly you're wrong, he's been one of our best players in the past 2 months.

The fact that you don't see Finnan as a good player also makes me wonder what games you watch. Finnan along with Carragher, is one of our most consistant defenders. When most of the players today were poor, he was solid at the back.

The only disappointment for me is against Neverton our weakness in defence was continually dealing with high ball after high ball.Now Bolton are the best team in the league for that style of play and are lethal at set pieces,did we learn from last Wednesday......not at all.....and lesser teams know our weakness.

We've played against lesser teams and they couldn't capitalize on our weakness. Most teams try to play proper football rather than go via route number 1, long balls.

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:21 am

I have said it many times before, Hyypia is a class defender, but when he has to play too many games in a short period he suffers more than other players. His age and lack of pace will get exposed when he plays 4 games in 8 days.

But 2 bad games so far this season, the other 20 odd have been excellent so cut the guy some slack.

If a keeper makes only 1 mistake every 15 games then he isnt doing badly if you ask me. Fact:all players will make errors. Cech made a howler last week, no one said anything. A test of a class keeper is if he is mentally shaken up by his mistake or is it just water of a ducks back.

Its hard to judge a keeper over so little time, you can only tell what a keeper is made of over 2 seasons.

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