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by **Gracias King Rafa** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:47 am

Glad we got the three points no matter how we played or who scored,that said from the (albeit brief) highlights from MOTD it looked as though Garcia was man of the match!
And just how poor were ManUre? :laugh:

by **The_Rock** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:01 am

BarryBelfast wrote:
The_Rock wrote:Finally morientes put in a good performance..... He was running his socks of.

More of this moro....

What match was u watching mate???
Moro played slightly better.......no where near good enough!!! Still a long way to go there until hes match fit

i know...it was pretty average, but the thing is, my impression of moro is pretty bad...so this kind of performance by him and i am sort of relieved

But have to give Moro credit for working his socks off...I am one of cisse's biggest fans, but when i see moro working so hard and cisse just strolling along...i can understand why rafa doesn't really rate him....

by **JBG** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:28 am

The reaction from yesterday's win is typical of this forum.

We deserved to win yes, but it was not a particularly good performance. We were very comfortable at the back, Alonso and Gerrard had decent games, and Garcia had his best match yet so far this year, but there were a lot of problems.

Pepe Reina had nothing to do but his lax kicking is still a concern.

John Arne Risse had an ok game, but his overall form this season is not what it should be.

Djbril Cisse was very poor. He may have Henry's speed and in a couple of years when his frame fills out he may have Henry's power, but Djbril will never have Henry's skill, guile and intelligence. His decision making was poor and he looks a player that refuses to gel with his team mates. Cisse this year will be a re-run of Baros last year. We all know Rafa doesn't fancy him and he's only winding down his Liverpool career.

Morientes worked hard - for Morientes - and some of his touches were good, but his lack of pace is alarming.

Rafa over crowded midfield leaving Sissoko getting in Alonso's way a lot. There was no width whatsoever.

In the same way as people shouldn't get hysterical when we lose they should not start gushing when we get a patchy win.

by **crouchy** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:37 am

JBG wrote:Rafa over crowded midfield leaving Sissoko getting in Alonso's way a lot. There was no width whatsoever.

Thats fairly typical of Rafa, playing a central line up, normally with 1 player on each wing at the such as Riise. If you play with a wing back AND midfield winger then players like crouch (ive said this in another topic) can recieve crosses and use his head at least to trouble the keeper if not score.

Im only a kid, but i would play a variating tactic, playing balls straight down the centre and suddenly putting people on the wing for 5 or 10 mns and going a little more attacking.

by **stmichael** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:56 pm

i agree with most of what's being said. yesterday we were by far the better team but that's hardly saying much. i thought west ham were awful. having said that, a win is a win and it's hopefully something we can build on.

morientes and garcia were our best players i thought. morientes should have buried a header inthe second half but apart from that, some of his touches were sublime. whilst cisse may have speed of movement, morientes has the speed of thought. i thought cisse was awful yesterday.

i also agree about the midfield balance. gerrard and garcia were all over the place. they weren't keeping any sort of shape. however i'd play the same side against anderlecht and villa next week. we need to get some kind of understanding going.

by **66-1112520797** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:43 pm

stmichael wrote:i also agree about the midfield balance. gerrard and garcia were all over the place. they weren't keeping any sort of shape. however i'd play the same side against anderlecht and villa next week. we need to get some kind of understanding going.

For the moment he has a winning formula all be it one game , but Rafa should give them ( the same eleven) the same opportunity to do that again.

If it aint broke then dont fix it , type of thing . Even if that means Gerrard on the right he is the only person in the squad who is capable of playing that role.

by **stmichael** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:05 pm

Funny how Garcia has a good game and all of a sudden the same fans who have been slating the guy in the past, suddenly love him.

I've always said that whilst the guy is unbelievably frustrating, he's just class when he's on top of his game.

You could criticise Garcia for a lot of things, but lack of effort, no chance. The lad never stops, he never hides, no matter how badly things are going he will continue to show, continue to try things others wouldn't dream of.

by **66-1112520797** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:25 pm

stmichael wrote:Funny how Garcia has a good game and all of a sudden the same fans who have been slating the guy in the past, suddenly love him.

I've always said that whilst the guy is unbelievably frustrating, he's just class when he's on top of his game.

You could criticise Garcia for a lot of things, but lack of effort, no chance. The lad never stops, he never hides, no matter how badly things are going he will continue to show, continue to try things others wouldn't dream of.

I have dont know who that was aimed at , but I take it , that was aimed at me .

:talktothehand

by **Scottbot** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:32 pm

A decent (albeit patchy) performance yesterday. Some of the passing and interplay was crisp in the middle of the park but the final ball let us down most of the afternoon.

Plusses for me were the back four which looks so much better with Finnan back and Riisse gives us a more attacking options at fullback. I like Warnock but i'd be tempted to give Jonny a run in the team from here on - He provides the odd overlap and is a threat running with the ball on the counter.
Alonso had an excellent first 30 minutes when everything went through him. He faded out a little but looked to have regained some form. Morientes worked his :censored:

off and showed some wonderful touches linking with Stevie and Garcia. He won himself a few fans yesterday and i hope the much deserved standing ovation boosted his confidence. I still don't think he can play upfront on his own in this country. If only we had someone with pace, good movement and intelligence to play with him. Cisse has the pace but had a stinker yesterday (i'd still stick with him though)
Sissoko seems to be taking a bit of stick. He didn't have the best game but his energy in midfield enables the boss to play Stevie out on the right every once in a while.

Yesterday was 3 points and something to build on. We need 3 more at Villa next weekend.

For West Ham i was VERY impressed by Reo Coker. Definately one to watch in the future. Only 21 and simply bossed his team about for 90 minutes. Also impressed with Ferdinand. He will be worth a lot of money unless one of the big clubs gets in quick to try and turn his head.

by **stmichael** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:36 pm

Scottbot wrote:For West Ham i was VERY impressed by Reo Coker.

yeah he's a good young english central midfielder so expect spurs to sign him in the summer. they're a bit short in that area.

by **A.B.** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:55 pm

yeah he's a good young english central midfielder so expect spurs to sign him in the summer. they're a bit short in that area.

Yes, 15 central midfielders for them is not enough.

by **kazza** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:19 pm

stmichael wrote:You could criticise Garcia for a lot of things, but lack of effort, no chance. The lad never stops, he never hides, no matter how badly things are going he will continue to show, continue to try things others wouldn't dream of.

That is exactly what I have always said about Garcia, and that is why he should always be in the team. For all those that complain about Spanish players, I would say that if the whole team gave as much energy as Garcia we might not get so many lacklustre performances. His stray passes come from him trying to over cook things, although not good at least he tries and that can be coached out. Attititude however is in-bred.

When it comes to positive hussle and a never quit attitude on the team, Garcia probably comes a close second to Carrager.

by **jack66** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:25 pm

JBG wrote:The reaction from yesterday's win is typical of this forum.

We deserved to win yes, but it was not a particularly good performance. We were very comfortable at the back, Alonso and Gerrard had decent games, and Garcia had his best match yet so far this year, but there were a lot of problems.

Pepe Reina had nothing to do but his lax kicking is still a concern.

John Arne Risse had an ok game, but his overall form this season is not what it should be.

Djbril Cisse was very poor. He may have Henry's speed and in a couple of years when his frame fills out he may have Henry's power, but Djbril will never have Henry's skill, guile and intelligence. His decision making was poor and he looks a player that refuses to gel with his team mates. Cisse this year will be a re-run of Baros last year. We all know Rafa doesn't fancy him and he's only winding down his Liverpool career.

Morientes worked hard - for Morientes - and some of his touches were good, but his lack of pace is alarming.

Rafa over crowded midfield leaving Sissoko getting in Alonso's way a lot. There was no width whatsoever.

In the same way as people shouldn't get hysterical when we lose they should not start gushing when we get a patchy win.

erm ive seen this before somewhere.

by **jack66** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:30 pm

JBG wrote:The reaction from yesterday's win is typical of this forum.

We deserved to win yes, but it was not a particularly good performance. We were very comfortable at the back, Alonso and Gerrard had decent games, and Garcia had his best match yet so far this year, but there were a lot of problems.

Pepe Reina had nothing to do but his lax kicking is still a concern.

John Arne Risse had an ok game, but his overall form this season is not what it should be.

Djbril Cisse was very poor. He may have Henry's speed and in a couple of years when his frame fills out he may have Henry's power, but Djbril will never have Henry's skill, guile and intelligence. His decision making was poor and he looks a player that refuses to gel with his team mates. Cisse this year will be a re-run of Baros last year. We all know Rafa doesn't fancy him and he's only winding down his Liverpool career.

Morientes worked hard - for Morientes - and some of his touches were good, but his lack of pace is alarming.

Rafa over crowded midfield leaving Sissoko getting in Alonso's way a lot. There was no width whatsoever.

In the same way as people shouldn't get hysterical when we lose they should not start gushing when we get a patchy win.

Thats what we need,negativity across the board from our top mod,u never know you might start to brainwash the young fans on here so much so that when they go to the match,they wont be arsed to sing ynwa.

by **Gareth G** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:33 pm

jack66 wrote:
JBG wrote:The reaction from yesterday's win is typical of this forum.

We deserved to win yes, but it was not a particularly good performance. We were very comfortable at the back, Alonso and Gerrard had decent games, and Garcia had his best match yet so far this year, but there were a lot of problems.

Pepe Reina had nothing to do but his lax kicking is still a concern.

John Arne Risse had an ok game, but his overall form this season is not what it should be.

Djbril Cisse was very poor. He may have Henry's speed and in a couple of years when his frame fills out he may have Henry's power, but Djbril will never have Henry's skill, guile and intelligence. His decision making was poor and he looks a player that refuses to gel with his team mates. Cisse this year will be a re-run of Baros last year. We all know Rafa doesn't fancy him and he's only winding down his Liverpool career.

Morientes worked hard - for Morientes - and some of his touches were good, but his lack of pace is alarming.

Rafa over crowded midfield leaving Sissoko getting in Alonso's way a lot. There was no width whatsoever.

In the same way as people shouldn't get hysterical when we lose they should not start gushing when we get a patchy win.

erm ive seen this before somewhere.

Yeah, on the previous page mate, JBG wrote it! Are you a gold fish?

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