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by **big al** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:03 pm

Ok I've tried to be fair, even to those who I beleive are wrong.
13th year in a row and still no title, who's to blame.

by **Dom1** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:28 pm

I AM TORN BETWEEN No. 1 AND No. 10 ??

by **redandblue** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:37 pm

1 The Liverpool fans for sitting there in silence, tolerating poor performances week in week out, season after season. The fans should take as an example the two real supporters who, a few weeks ago,unfurled a banner saying Houllier OUT. The fans have ended up with the team they deserve. If the fans chanted for Houllier's removal, it would happen.

2 Moores for being stupid enough to keep giving Houllier money to spend on dud.

3 Parry for giving Houllier a new contract.

4 Houllier for not being up to the job.

by **columbia** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:05 pm

houlliers fault

by **DAV** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:19 pm

i agree with everything said by red and blue

by **big al** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 6:25 pm

Redand blue your right mate but those two fans were evicted from the ground now that's not only sad its bloody censorship. Its alright for the french nutcase to spoof in the papers (which we don't have access to)about the fans who want him out but when ordinary fans show their feelings he gets them put out of their ground. Yes Houleir their ground and thousands of them will still be there long after you a froggie ***** is gone. Egotistical ba#ta#d.

by **greenred** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 6:41 pm

The blame has to lie at moores feet.He is the man with the ultimate responsibility.He continues to employ houllier despite our apalling record over the last eighteen months.So I blame him.

by **columbia** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 6:45 pm

big al wrote:Redand blue your right mate but those two fans were evicted from the ground now that's not only sad its bloody censorship. Its alright for the french nutcase to spoof in the papers (which we don't have access to)about the fans who want him out but when ordinary fans show their feelings he gets them put out of their ground. Yes Houleir their ground and thousands of them will still be there long after you a froggie ***** is gone. Egotistical ba#ta#d.

really, they got taken out the ground? Thats f##kin stupid. What ever happend to fredom of speach.

by **big al** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:16 pm

Don't know columbia but Houlier Only likes his own free speech, and what acrock that is

by **115-1073096938** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:09 am

Idiots like redandblue.

Plain and simple.

I go every f##king week and the atmosphere is sickening almost to the stage where i don't want to go. Every player in that side looks nervous in the home matches because of the abuse, pressure and barracking they recieve every f##king week even Steven Gerrard, Michael Owen, Sami Hyypia are getting it now aswell and clearly look nervous every match.

Every game i go to i sing my f##kin tits off with the other 5 in the same stand as me while the other 10,000 muppets sit there abusing the players.

With the players we have the fans can motivate the team but most of you w#nk##s clearly want us to fail so sit there in silence and abuse. Thats the main source of motivation I don't care what anyone says. The game against Roma was the perfect example. Had to win 2-0... the atmosphere was electric and thats why we won the game. The same for all the europian nights, the wins against United etc etc.

Maybe if you all done yourr bit things would go back to the way they where. Lets face it... since we finished second the only thing thats changed greatly is the the attitude of the fans. Everything else remains the same.

by **leothelion** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:44 am

SORRY LADS CANT VOTE IT COULD BE DOWN TO ANY OF THE ABOVE
1 Gerrard Houlier: IF HE REALY CARED HE WOULD STEP DOWN OR UP THE FACT THAT HE'S NOT IS WEAK
2 David Moores :WHO PUTS UP WITH DECISIONS AND RENEWS CONTRACTS ALSO AT FAULT
3 The whole board

ODGY CANT BLAME THE WHOLE BOARD THEY DONT HAVE A WEEKLY SAY BUT MAYBE COULD HAVE A BIT MORE INPUT
4 The Executive staff, Including Parry :AGAIN THEIR NOT HAVING A WEEKLY SAY BUT IF THEIR SEEING SO MUCH MONEY GOING OUT AND POOR RESULTS MAYBE THEY SHOULD SPEAK UP
5 The Coaching System: IF THERES POOR MORALE ITS NOT GOING TO MAKE THEIR JOB EASY MAYBE THEY SHOULD DO A BETTER JOB BUT WHO'S GOING TO INFORCE THAT ?

6 The Scouting System:THE SCOUTS MAKE RECOMENDATIONS ITS UP TO MANAGEMENT TO ACCEPT OR DECLINE
7 Too Many poor players: A LOT OF POOR PLAYERS ALSO A LOT OF GOOD PLAYERS NOT PERFORMING SOMEONE NEEDS TO GIVE THEM A KICK UP THE ***** ?WHO?
8 Everbody Else: THATS WHO HOULLIER BLAMES
9 Chelsea Aresenal And Man U:WOULD LOVE TO BLAME THEM FOR OUR PROBS BUT HOW ?(no comment needed)
10 The fans for not supporting the team.:LIVERPOOL HAVE SOME OF THE BEST FANS IN THE WORLD BUT ARE WE HAPPY BEING ONE OF THE BEST CLUPS IN EUROPE SETTLING FOR 4th POSITION
WE CAN ALLOW FOR ONE BAD SEASON BUT AFTER HOW MANY POOR SEASONS CAN YOU BLAME THE FANS FOR NOT WANTING TO SEE L.F.C BACK ON TOP WHERE THEY BELONG

by **The_Rock** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:50 am

stu_the_red wrote:Idiots like redandblue.

Plain and simple.

I go every f##king week and the atmosphere is sickening almost to the stage where i don't want to go. Every player in that side looks nervous in the home matches because of the abuse, pressure and barracking they recieve every f##king week even Steven Gerrard, Michael Owen, Sami Hyypia are getting it now aswell and clearly look nervous every match.

Every game i go to i sing my f##kin tits off with the other 5 in the same stand as me while the other 10,000 muppets sit there abusing the players.

With the players we have the fans can motivate the team but most of you w#nk##s clearly want us to fail so sit there in silence and abuse. Thats the main source of motivation I don't care what anyone says. The game against Roma was the perfect example. Had to win 2-0... the atmosphere was electric and thats why we won the game. The same for all the europian nights, the wins against United etc etc.

Maybe if you all done yourr bit things would go back to the way they where. Lets face it... since we finished second the only thing thats changed greatly is the the attitude of the fans. Everything else remains the same.

yeah sure, blame the fans for the miserable run we are in now............. We are the ones who are getting 20,000 quid a week rite

?

by **columbia** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 11:05 am

yeh but the atmosphere has gone down for a reason. Something had to change for the fans to go quiet so you cant put it all on the fans. The players should give the fans something to cheer about and then maybe they would. A good example of this is when we played united this season. We played sh##e for 75 miniutes. Then pongolle came on and kewell scored and the atmosphere was electric. I do think people should go there and sing but there probably nervous themselves about how the match will go, and can you blame them.

by **Chinesegirl** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:38 pm

Everbody Else

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:49 pm

I think one problem that, though not directly concerned with the perfromances, is that we have to many players. This means that players are simply playing 10 - 20 games a season and picking up a nice wage packet, and at the same time stoping younger players getting a chance.

I think in the last few years the trend has changed from haveing a big squad, to having a smaller more versatile squad, Man Utd started and Arsenal are following. By doing this you have less players who are upset at not being in the team and more players who have match fitness.

I purpose we can get rid of the following players without buying a replacement:

Troare - He is not good enough for Liverpool and we have cover at left back(Riise,Carragher,Vignal) and Centre Back( Hyypia, Henchoz, Biscan,Carragher).

Smicer - Though I am a fan, he is to injury prone and is just an extra part of our squad that we don't need.

Babbel - Not the same player he was, and no way back

Partridge - It is to late for him.

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