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[JC_81]

An i know this might sound strange but id change Doc Waller, bring someone in with new fresh ideas

Why's that Nanny?

[NANNY RED]

An i know this might sound strange but id change Doc Waller, bring someone in with new fresh ideas

Why's that Nanny?

Because hes cr.ap, an ive questioned loads of times a player has been injured has he bodged the treatment, or given the go ahead that a player is ready when hes not, its not just me an all John theres loads of people think hes dead suspect,

Fresh doc for me,

[Sabre]

An i know this might sound strange but id change Doc Waller, bring someone in with new fresh ideas

Why's that Nanny?

Because hes cr.ap, an ive questioned loads of times a player has been injured has he bodged the treatment, or given the go ahead that a player is ready when hes not, its not just me an all John theres loads of people think hes dead suspect,

Fresh doc for me,

Nanny, it's normal we are all frustrated when an injury reoccurs, or we see players like Aurelio, Kewell or Degen longly injured, but these patches of bad luck happen.

Between football doctors there's quite a lot of collaboration between professionals. It's very common that Dr Guillen in Spain, who's a wizard of the destroyed knees, is consulted by other doctors, and even helped to make surgery.

Liverpool doctors have helped non Liverpool players more than once. For instance Xabi Alonso brought his brother last summer to recover to Melwood and to have a second opinion on his injury. I'm pretty sure Nanny that Xabi wouldn't have brought his own brother to Melwood if we had an incompetent at charge. That dispells my doubts.

[JC_81]

I think that's harsh Nan.  The club doctor at LFC will have a lot less input into these injuries than you think.  If there's any doubt at all in the diagnosis the player will be referred right to a specialist.  Even in terms of rehab it will be the physio that has most input compared to the doctor.  He will also have nothing to do with interpretation of any scans the players get at the hospitals.  He has a very limited role which includes initial diagnosis, referral to the appropriate specialist and for any emergencies on matchday.

[Alex G.]

The wings in general. No world class player in that position.

[NANNY RED]

I think that's harsh Nan.  The club doctor at LFC will have a lot less input into these injuries than you think.  If there's any doubt at all in the diagnosis the player will be referred right to a specialist.  Even in terms of rehab it will be the physio that has most input compared to the doctor.  He will also have nothing to do with interpretation of any scans the players get at the hospitals.  He has a very limited role which includes initial diagnosis, referral to the appropriate specialist and for any emergencies on matchday.

I dunno John ive thought this for a few years now, maybe its just me, lets me prattle on , i do that now an again, time of life, well see

[maypaxvobiscum]

Phillip Lahm can play on both flanks cant he? would buying someone like him be a bonus?

[whylongball?]

i wouldnt say left wing is a weakness but the team can improve a lot if there is a better option like Silva   Next would be the right fullback position. And finally centre back position

[curly bonce]

full backs and widemen has been the same for years

[Festy]

full backs and widemen has been the same for years

WTF ? 

Anyway, RB for me. Arbeloa is good but nothing special. Average at best. We really need a dominant right back IMO. A good quality RB can be essential in attacks.

[bigmick]

I must be almost alone of the forum in my support of Arby. I think he really is quite a decent full-back. He's solid, gets forward a bit and is decent in the air, as well as being a good pro. I like him.

[SuuPeRrSteviieG!!]

Full-backs. I'm not even going to elaborate why. It's our weakest by a mile. We'd be some team if we can find at least two world class full-backs to bomb up and down the flanks.

I think you mean midfielders/wingbacks.

Our fullbacks do the defending job they're supposed to.

Our weakness is transition - its taken a full season for Stevie to move forward and for the revised midfield to cope. Babel has failed, Reira is on/off, only Masher and Alonso have played their full potential.

To be perfectly honest, that left attacking midfield role is still wide open.  Kuyty has teh right midfield safely covered.

Cant wait for Kaka to arrive in the closed season.

No, I mean full-backs.

Look at all the top sides in Europe that have won, or are winning their leagues lately. They all have world class attacking fullbacks that get up and support the play in attack. It's often said the best form of defense is attack. When you look at Chelsea, United, Arsenal, Barca, Madrid etc etc, they all won their leagues with class attacking fullbacks. Players that can bomb up and down. Arbeloa and Aurelio just aren't up to it.

Strongest point i have read in this forum, well said mate.

YNWA[B][U][I]

[Owzat]

Right back.

I think that is the weakest position, Arbeloa hasn't progressed as I think many of us thought he would. He looks suspect defensively at times, he can be good going forward and contribute, but I don't think he's strong enough either defensively or going forward, nor strong enough combined - certainly compared to other positions. And there is no real back-up with Degen injured/unproven, LB is not quite so worrying but "full-back" is a position so you could argue we aren't strong enough in either

1) Striker (Because it's more crucial to break down deep teams, since we're dominating enough to afford a just good RB)

Not sure strikers are necessarily the key to breaking down deep teams, pundits often say you need width to stretch defences, and of course bodies in the box to get on the end of crosses which has been a problem of our's this season (not enough bodies in the box often enough)

4) RW, because I think it's possible to bring a player that will help destroying deep teams better than Kuyt.

No reason why we can't have a pacy youngster on the bench for such an occaision, I certainly think some are harsh on Kuyt even now in that they heap praise on Riera, Torres, Gerrard, Alonso etc and yet Kuyt's position is singled out when we don't break down defences. I think he is learning rapidly, those beautiful angled crosses against West Ham a good example of creativity you wouldn't normally expect from him. Thankfully Rafa has hinted that he's happy with that position, even if we did get a pacy winger to beat his man and put in (who knows how good) crosses, would our players be in the box to get on the end of them?

[NANNY RED]

I must be almost alone of the forum in my support of Arby. I think he really is quite a decent full-back. He's solid, gets forward a bit and is decent in the air, as well as being a good pro. I like him.

I agree Mick i like Arby an all an ive championed his cause loads this season, and he has  played some exellent games for us but i think we need another option, Im not saying let him go far from it , but get someone else in who can give us like Sabes said another option when either he is out or not on his game. We need two top class players in every position imo

[stmichael]

Right back for me. In modern day football the fullbacks are the most important position on the pitch and finding top quality ones are difficult to come by. We haven't had a top quality one since Marcus Babbel.

It's not just us though. The Mancs haven't got a decent right back. It's their major weakness and they've been playing the likes of O'Shea and Brown there. Chelsea have spent an absolute foprtune on right backs (Fereirra, Boularouz, Bosingwa) and none have been truly convincing. Ok Arsenal have Sagna but even he's better going forward than defending. Spurs have spent a fortune on Corluka, Hutton, Gunter and Chimbonda. None of those are better than Arbeloa imo.

People keep mentioning us signing Glen Johnson. I think he's a very good footballer but I'm still no convinced by his defensive capabilitites. Bring back Steve Finnan. 

After that it's left wing for me. I like Riera but he's way too inconsistent and we can still do better imo. The Harry Kewell of 05/06 was a far superior player. I just hope the talk of David Silva is true as he'd be ideal imo.