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Postby UvS xR4GEx » Sun Mar 22, 2026 5:11 pm

Klopp brought in players from South America and Africa knowing they had players around them that they could gel with. We always had alot of English/Scottish/Irish lads that all got along. Then we had Jota and Thiago who could speak both English and Portuguese so could communicate with both parties. The 2 dutch lads who were mates in VVD and Gini.

Klopps team was put together carefully to form friendships and a family on the pitch.
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Postby Reg » Sun Mar 22, 2026 5:37 pm

My comment after the Galatasaray game:
'Good result, well done Reds. Does it signal a change, was it a flash in the pan, can we make a sustained effort for the rest of the season?
Who knows.'


My comment after this game:
'Feck off Slot you useless runt.'
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Postby kazza » Sun Mar 22, 2026 6:51 pm

UvS xR4GEx » Sun Mar 22, 2026 4:11 pm wrote:Klopp brought in players from South America and Africa knowing they had players around them that they could gel with. We always had alot of English/Scottish/Irish lads that all got along. Then we had Jota and Thiago who could speak both English and Portuguese so could communicate with both parties. The 2 dutch lads who were mates in VVD and Gini.

Klopps team was put together carefully to form friendships and a family on the pitch.

I think Firmino was already at the team and he was key to the best forward line ever in the prem, he replaced Sterling, and by all accounts Klopp was over ruled on Salah so wasn’t his choice. If I remember correctly there was the “transfer committee” that was responsible for transfers. Klopp didn’t have absolute control when he first came, the club was shy about giving control to a manager after Rodgers lost all the Suarez money on overage players. I’m sure Klopp had influence but he didn’t hand pick that original team, it was done by the transfer committee. And to be fair, he got the most out of them.
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Postby redshade » Sun Mar 22, 2026 7:04 pm

kazza » Sun Mar 22, 2026 12:57 pm wrote:ManUre (and Arsenal after Wenger) have basically been throwing darts hoping something would stick. The more mistakes they made the more they over reacted and spent billions between them along the way. We certainly cannot afford that and I’m hoping our owners are more disciplined and methodical.

It’s worth noting that Klopp had Salah, Firmino and Mane in their prime, I’m sure most managers could make that work. Did Klopp make those three or did those three make Klopp? Either way you look at it it’s clear that it takes stars aligning and everything to come together, and those things don’t happen too often. Throwing darts like ManUre have for the last 15 years has a very low probability of success. I don’t think Rodgers was sacked in that moment because the team could not continue with him, he was sacked because Klopp became available or was going to sign with another team. Our team with Klopp was a team of low key personalities. No one drank and most were religious, no egos in the team and they became a family under the patriarch Klopp. I think we normalized how that team just came together when it was a once a generation team. It looked easy so we thought it was easy but it was actually a rare thing.


Thing with Klopp he had a philosophy, a way of playing. We saw that the moment he got here. We knew all he needs stronger players to compete at the top. Klopp had ability to get the best out of his players. He converted Firmino into a false 9, Bobby even Kept Studge and Origi out the side. Some argue oh Klopp had many losses on the trot, or went through bad patches, to be fair even If we he did so what, we knew he would turn it around. Klopp had a identity, a way of playing. Even during thaylt bad form you still saw us trying to do what the gaffer has instilled in them.

My issue with Slot is he seems clueless, there us no philosophy, no methodology or way the team plays. All he did, came in last season, calmed down a well settled structure. The lads knew what they were doing anyway, he just reserved the press a little, conserved energy.

If we had a identity and we clearly could see it then I wouldn't mind a loss here and there. At least you know there is progress. Even when Isak is back I honestly can't see sh1t being fixed. Imo Slot is out of his depth here.

We can all complain about the injuries, new players excuses but why is it that we are the most out run team in Epl. That is absolutely alarming to say the least. These are issues with the coaching, managing staff.

Yes we may go through a period of changing managers but I'd rather that than this shower of shyte that we are watching these days. Slot has sucked out motivation from the game, I honestly don't even feel like commiting and watching us anymore.
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Postby kazza » Sun Mar 22, 2026 7:46 pm

redshade » Sun Mar 22, 2026 6:04 pm wrote:
kazza » Sun Mar 22, 2026 12:57 pm wrote:ManUre (and Arsenal after Wenger) have basically been throwing darts hoping something would stick. The more mistakes they made the more they over reacted and spent billions between them along the way. We certainly cannot afford that and I’m hoping our owners are more disciplined and methodical.

It’s worth noting that Klopp had Salah, Firmino and Mane in their prime, I’m sure most managers could make that work. Did Klopp make those three or did those three make Klopp? Either way you look at it it’s clear that it takes stars aligning and everything to come together, and those things don’t happen too often. Throwing darts like ManUre have for the last 15 years has a very low probability of success. I don’t think Rodgers was sacked in that moment because the team could not continue with him, he was sacked because Klopp became available or was going to sign with another team. Our team with Klopp was a team of low key personalities. No one drank and most were religious, no egos in the team and they became a family under the patriarch Klopp. I think we normalized how that team just came together when it was a once a generation team. It looked easy so we thought it was easy but it was actually a rare thing.


Thing with Klopp he had a philosophy, a way of playing. We saw that the moment he got here. We knew all he needs stronger players to compete at the top. Klopp had ability to get the best out of his players. He converted Firmino into a false 9, Bobby even Kept Studge and Origi out the side. Some argue oh Klopp had many losses on the trot, or went through bad patches, to be fair even If we he did so what, we knew he would turn it around. Klopp had a identity, a way of playing. Even during thaylt bad form you still saw us trying to do what the gaffer has instilled in them.

My issue with Slot is he seems clueless, there us no philosophy, no methodology or way the team plays. All he did, came in last season, calmed down a well settled structure. The lads knew what they were doing anyway, he just reserved the press a little, conserved energy.

If we had a identity and we clearly could see it then I wouldn't mind a loss here and there. At least you know there is progress. Even when Isak is back I honestly can't see sh1t being fixed. Imo Slot is out of his depth here.

We can all complain about the injuries, new players excuses but why is it that we are the most out run team in Epl. That is absolutely alarming to say the least. These are issues with the coaching, managing staff.

Yes we may go through a period of changing managers but I'd rather that than this shower of shyte that we are watching these days. Slot has sucked out motivation from the game, I honestly don't even feel like commiting and watching us anymore.


I can’t really disagree with anything you said, I just worry more about instability in the team and squad. Every couple of years a new manager with new ideas and the need for his players. I am shocked that we are always out run, especially after the Klopp era of out running every opponent, not sure how to read that but it is alarming. I still think his winning the title last year allows him a bad year before he’s sacked. I don’t think he’s stupid and I’m sure he’ll make changes this summer within his coaching staff that will see improvements, I think next year we’ll be a lot stronger and hopefully won’t b as unlucky. I just cannot conceptually see it wise sacking a manager after his second year when he won a title in his first. We were spoilt with Klopp football despite its limitations. We made too many changes last summer but we did buy talented young players. They should only improve in skill and understanding within the team. As things stand, I don’t think they will sack the manager this summer and will have a longer term view.
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Postby damjan193 » Sun Mar 22, 2026 8:00 pm

kazza » Sun Mar 22, 2026 7:51 pm wrote:
UvS xR4GEx » Sun Mar 22, 2026 4:11 pm wrote:Klopp brought in players from South America and Africa knowing they had players around them that they could gel with. We always had alot of English/Scottish/Irish lads that all got along. Then we had Jota and Thiago who could speak both English and Portuguese so could communicate with both parties. The 2 dutch lads who were mates in VVD and Gini.

Klopps team was put together carefully to form friendships and a family on the pitch.

I think Firmino was already at the team and he was key to the best forward line ever in the prem, he replaced Sterling, and by all accounts Klopp was over ruled on Salah so wasn’t his choice. If I remember correctly there was the “transfer committee” that was responsible for transfers. Klopp didn’t have absolute control when he first came, the club was shy about giving control to a manager after Rodgers lost all the Suarez money on overage players. I’m sure Klopp had influence but he didn’t hand pick that original team, it was done by the transfer committee. And to be fair, he got the most out of them.

Klopp is a master of getting everything out of his players, think about how many players he managed with us succeeded in other clubs once they left us? Coutinho, Wijnaldum, even Mane never reached even close to the level they were under Klopp.

Yes he wasn't resposible for transfers at first, but he very much was in charge of our signings for our second rebuild. Some people forget that the likes of Szoboszlai, Mac Allister, Gravenberch, Luis Diaz, Nunez etc., players that won us the league last season, were all his signings. We didn't even have a proper sporting director at the time, not one that was responsible for identifying new signings anyway.
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