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UvS xR4GEx » Sun Nov 23, 2025 5:23 pm wrote:The worst thing about all this is its actually put me off watching any football. There's Arsenal vs Spurs on now and I couldn't care less. I've not watched any MOTD and I used to watch that every single Saturday aswell. I've honestly not felt so down about us and football since the Roy Hodgson days.

I dont think sacking Slot at this point is a kneejerk reaction..  and if we've not been looking at alternatives, then more fool us. I think even getting top4 under Slot is going to be a massive struggle.

The second half was on par with the slop being served by Hodgson.

But everyone is now talking of a change in management, but who do we bring in?

I’m not 100% convinced Klopp wants to return. So who do we bring in?

What I want to know is will the owners make a change if things continue to spiral down with no positive effect or will they wait end of season, regardless of what happensor or how bad it gets.....

Baffles me how shyte we've become. Just thinking how bad will it get, had we not scored those last min winners I think we'd be in relegation zone.

Seen a stat yesterday that said we have been outran in all the games we have lost. Slot isnt into the heavy press thing which is fine but you still have to work hard to get results in this league. You have to be on it every game and fight for a result which I thought Arne learned last season. Every team has decent tactics and are disciplined enough to carry them out so nothing is guaranteed. Its only been 2 or 3 times this season where we showed up for close to 90 minutes. I know we lost a good few in the summer but we did replace them.None have really settled and it looks like he doesnt know what to do with them.

Then there is the football. Its painfully slow and predictable. Can't keep clean sheets, absent midfield and toothless up front. Its like that all season and getting worse because the players dont look up for it. The same mistakes over and over. I get its a bad patch so go back to basics and tighten up at least. Yesterday was as bad as it gets. Konate shouldn't start again for us unless he has to because he dont give an eff. That smirk on him yesterday leaving the field says it all. Give Joe a shot. Kerkhez needs benching again till he stops being so erratic. Gakpo and Salah need benching as well and we try something different up top. Get Etitike and Isak up front and either old school 4-4-2 or 3-5-2. Anything just get those dead weights off.  Midfield needs rearranging with Szobozlai at the tip of it.

We have West Ham, Sunderland, Leeds, Brighton and spurs between now and Christmas. Then its Wolves and Leeds again over the holidays. He has got to turn it around by then and we need at least 5 wins from that to keep pace with top 4. Everyone hopes he turns this around. What is annoying fans is that the warning signs where there and they where ignored. Its hard to see us beating anyone on this form so he really needs to motivate those players and maybe be a bit more ruthless with a few.

Come January if this continues I think the owners have £450m reasons to part company with Slot. Season is a dud, may as well shake it up and try come up with a way to stall the rot. Couple of those new signings are looking dubious and WTF has happened to Isak ?

leeroy74 » Mon Nov 24, 2025 9:48 am wrote:Come January if this continues I think the owners have £450m reasons to part company with Slot. Season is a dud, may as well shake it up and try come up with a way to stall the rot. Couple of those new signings are looking dubious and WTF has happened to Isak ?

I'm not overly concerned about our signings atm, i genuinely believe we have by and large spent pretty well, i don't think its a case of say, what happened at Everton a few years back where they splurdged a fortune on bang average players. Our players are just lacking confidence and as we all know confidence is everything in this game, the same player can go from looking like he's never kicked a ball in his life to the second coming of Maradona, confidence is everything. Also the players we signed are young, it's not like we signed a bunch of 29 year olds and the clock is ticking down on their prime or anything like that so we are at least alright on that score.
What we need to do is create a stable platform, give our flair players a stage to perform from which is actually the simpler side of football management, setting a team up so it is defensively organised and hard working is something even the Allardyce's and Pulis's and Moyes's can do pretty well. It's the basics. When you look at our squad it actually takes a bit of doing to be this bad given the players we've got on paper, that was Forest's first away win all season, we are literally making a sow's ear from a silk purse, we are literally the dictionary definition of that old idiom right now.

Well I’m not sure how PSV will play but certainly West Ham will defend deep and look for set plays and will run their socks off, Slot better figure it out soon as all we will see are the same tactics from every team we play we are that obvious.

I think hugely important is we support the manager as if we start booing at matches after bad results (which is the most likely scenario) it will not help Slot or the team and will make us a laughing stock and I’d rather be laughed at for blind support than being fickle. I cannot see him leaving mid season so we need to get behind him as long as he is our manager. We are Liverpool not Chelsea, ManUre or Spurs. The year after Klopp won the title we lost six matches in a row at Anfield to some weak teams, we only really made CL that year due to a last second goal by Allison, we still kept faith in Klopp though. We need to support harder when losing than winning as that is where the supporters can help, not act entitled since we are champions. We need to be the twelfth player again….. having said that, it helps when you see 100% effort from the players which we are certainly not seeing.

Just a mention of Jota. When my mother died I remember initially it was a shock but it came with energy or a buzz and senses we heightened, I could probably have run through a brick wall those days. Three months later, as I came to terms with the fact I will never see that person again it became more depressing and sapped energy and hope. I went into a funk a few months later as things became real and I really didn’t want to even leave the house. It’s a weak excuse for the player’s performances lately but also should be kept in mind, losing someone close does have an effect and losing a team mate will affect the whole team. I heard a rumor that the team was very unhappy that Diaz did not go to Jota’s funeral so clearly he had a beef with Jota so maybe not affected by his death but if you consider Trent’s quality this year, it’s not unreasonable to make the claim the team is affected by Jota’s death especially when you consider how small margins are the difference at this level.

I hear what you're saying Kaz but there's a fair bit of difference between losing your mum and a work colleague, i say that as someone who has lost their mum btw. I'm not saying the players wouldn't be affected by losing their mate but you know what i reckon if Mo and Virgil were in their mid 20's what happened in Spain wouldn't be an issue, in fact we'd probably be 5 points clear at the top if those 2 were 26 again.
I think people are looking for excuses, imo the reason we are doing so poorly is that the rock that has been at the heart of our defence for the best part of a decade is no longer a rock, in fact that rock has pretty much become a liability, our goals conceded column doesn't lie.
If that wasn't bad enough the same thing has happened at the other end of the pitch, our one guaranteed source of goals over the past decade has dried up at the same time as our defence has started to crumble.
It's like a perfect storm, we can't defend and we can't score.
This is what happens when players get old, Gerrard was pretty much flawless for a decade but once he got into his early 30's high profile errors started to litter his game, not just for us either, remember that header which put Suarez clean through on goal when England played Uruguay in the World Cup.
Our problem is that our manager is not a big enough character to even acknowledge our problem never mind address it, this club atm is like an alcoholic who refuses to accept he has a problem.
I can't believe i'm saying this but i think we need to start worrying about relegation, we are only 6 points from 4th to bottom, we have lost 7 of our last 8 and probably even more concerning every single club in this division has got a copy of the blueprints which show how to beat us, it's like we're playing FIFA against people who know the cheat code atm. That West Ham game is away, if West Ham turn it into a physical scrap and bombard our box with high balls there's a decent chance we'll lose that one too. We are second to bottom in the form table, we have been shyte for months, we are shipping goals like they are going out of fashion.....we need to accept we are in trouble.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Nov 25, 2025 6:27 pm wrote:I can't believe i'm saying this but i think we need to start worrying about relegation, we are only 6 points from 4th to bottom, we have lost 7 of our last 8. We are second to bottom in the form table, we have been shyte for months, we are shipping goals like they are going out of fashion.....we need to accept we are in trouble.

Despite the doom and gloom and the shocking losses, Liverpool are only 3 points off fourth place. 

Not sure where the next 3 points are coming from though are we?