Liverpool FC Forum

Alisson - obviously our most consistent player, never let's the team down.

Marmadashvili- Hes been a solid back up, makes a few errors but understandable coming into a new team.

Robbo - Always gives 100% but we've known for a few years now that his best days are behind him.

Kerkez - He looks way out of his depth. I think Tsmikas looked more comfortable at LB. Very disappointing signing.

Konate - Won't sign a new deal, doesn't look focused at all. Hes making error after error and has become a massive liability.

Van Dijk - Hes not stepped up as the captain and he looks far too passive in this horrendous patch we're currently in.

Frimpong - Doesnt look great defensively, but has the pace to recover for any errors. Hard to judge him after all his injuries.

Bradley - Hes been inconsistent all season, he'll have 1 good game followed by 2 bad games. He needs to step up.

Gomez - he's hardly played and if it wasn't for him being made out of weetabix I'm sure he'd be starting over Konate.

Mac allister- still looks way off of the player we saw last season. He looks unfit, slow and weak in the duels.

Gravenberch- He looks good in some games, but goes missing in the big games. Another one thats not strong enough in the duels.

Szoboszlai- Hes been our best player this season.. but even he looked defeated yesterday against City.

Wirtz - Hes still new to the league, but he's way off of what we were expecting. Hes been the Bundesliga player of the season 2 years in a row, but looks weak and fragile for the rough and tough of the Premier league.

Ekitike- looks good some games, and other games he doesnt do enough. He struggles to hold the ball up against physical opposition, and another one that looks weak for the league.

Salah - Hes dropped off a cliff. Why Slot keeps playing him is a mystery.

Gakpo - Doesnt do nothing bad, but Doesnt do anything great either.. he's a 6.5 out of 10 guy every game.

Jones - He's not been great, but at least he'll get stuck in.

Ngumoha- Still young, and Slot doesnt look to have faith in him.

Chiesa - Works his butt off and 100% deserves a run of games now.

Isak - Unfit and has been since he arrived.

Endo - Might aswell give him a few games, like Jones, at least we know he'll get stuck in.

Trying to get a manager to change his tactics isnt going to happen so we are stuck with this until either the players adapt to them or we sign more players that suit the tactics better. I know we have been spoilt under Klopp but now we are just poor and easy to beat because the set up is rubbish and it's not going to change. Its mid table stuff.

How is he going to fit Isak in there or even utilise Etitike better if he persists with playing with so much width. We have 2 good strikers but both are nullified with how we play as Gakpo and Salah kill it everytime. They cant or won't beat a player unless its to get a shot off for themselves. I've seen Wirtz a few times now throwing looks at Salah for being greedy. The sooner he goes to Afcon the better and we will see what he does without him.

This is the premier league where even the smallest clubs are a threat. They might not have the quality but they are tactically disciplined and up for a dog fight. Just being willing to compete for every ball seems to be enough against us. We need to be better on the counter instead of overpassing it to the point any advantage has gone.

It's been a disaster really, made worse by the fact that before a ball was kicked everyone thought we'd walk the league and probably have a good go at the treble as well.

Thought the same especially after signing Isak. Didn't think we would be this bad and how new lads would struggle. Season so far has been abysmal. Villa and Real games seemed like we've figured things out somewhat after a bad run but that City match just showed we are a bar below and have got plenty of work to do. I think it'll be an up n down season.

The backline is a disaster. Kerkez has been a flop so far. Headless chicken. Konate is a liabilty who will walk in the summer. Frimpong is very poor defensively and extremely injury prone. Bradely is still young and hasn't had a good season so far. VVD has been ok, but when everyone around him are awful it doesn't help.

Luis Diaz take on bundesliga is interesting, no wonder it took Grav a season to adjust to our league. Don't think will see the best of Frimpong and Wirtz this season.

What happened at City was particularly frustrating because after decent performances against Villa and especially Madrid there was a sense of okay it's been bumpy but slowly and surely we are turning things around. I know the Etihad is not an easy place to go but our performance was so passive it left you feeling that we were back at square 1 again.  I haven't glanced at the fixture list in ages so i don't know what's coming up but perhaps the only crumb of comfort is that we have faced a lot of teams like Chelsea, United, City lately and maybe a kinder run of games will allow us to build a bit of momentum. Clutching at straws a bit i know but sometimes straws are the only things you've got left to hold on to.

We have an easier run of fixtures coming up, on paper at least. We'll be playing 3 teams from the bottom 5 in the next 4 games. In our bad run we struggled against "lesser" teams as much as we did against the bigger ones though, so the next few games will tell us where we're at.

Alisson should finally be back but Bardley is injured yet again and so is Flo. Would have been great to have Flo against the likes of Notts Forest and West Ham but it is what it is. Isak is also training I believe but no news about Frimpong, so we'll have either Joe or Ramsey on RB in the following weeks.

Outfought and out witted by Sean f@@king Dyche

We are now in the bottom half of the table. And will be below Everton if they win tomorrow.

The results are terrible, losing 3-0 back to back for the first time since 1965. But to have a -2 goal difference after 12 games is embarrassing. I'm not sure who to blame at this stage, but something has to change immediately.

The year after we won the title with Klopp, VVD got injured in October but from December through March we had a very bad run and played similar to how we are playing now maybe not quite as bad. At that time people said Klopp should get sacked or resign and he’s lost the plot as it was so hard to take watching the team play so bad. It’s not unusual for teams to have a bad season after winning the title, only City and ManUre managed it.

Clearly something wrong behind the scenes and something needs to be done but sacking the manager mid season after winning us a title is not it. I think we are downplaying how important Trent was to how we set up and how losing Diaz is making us weaker defensively on that side. Trent and Andy made us the team we were under Klopp and now both aren’t playing and we have done a complete reset.

I think there is a perfect storm within our defense and that is an older VVD who’s lost a step, Konate who just wants to be done with the season without injuries to not risk his big move, we have no regular RB as they are always injured and our LB situation is we have a reliable player that has lost his legs and a a young and naive defender that has lost his confidence to chose from.

Our failure was not securing Guehi when he wanted to come. We f*ck ed around trying to save 5m when we should have just got him mid window and put the thing to bed and then sold Konate. We absolutely did not need Isak as he has come with bad Karma, and frankly I would have sold Salah last window too, as I think he is a passenger now in the team and last year would have been the best year to cash in on him.

Being honest can any of you see him turning this around ?  Personally I dont as he would have tried things before now but still sticks with same tactics and setup. Players aren't playing for him for some reason and if he goes changing things now it will only be through desperation.

Losing Diaz, Nunez etc had to happen. Jota very unfortunate but he had to be upgraded on anyway. Trent wanted his dream move and held out for it like konate is doing now. Maybe in hindsight it was too much in one window but it did need to happen.

Diaz would not be looking to go if they where paying him Gakpo's wage. Hes on 3 times the money and isnt worth the lace off Luis's boot. Thats on the club. Also his blindness in regards to Salah is frightening. Never seen a player struggle so much for so long and still play every minute. Bound to be grumblings among the players because of it being the Mo Salah show. Why is he sticking with Konate also as his performances have been mostly poor. Our squad players are not match fit either because they barely play, Endo, Gomez get nothing even though our defence and mid struggle.

Imo the writing is on the wall for Slot. He is out of ideas and is struggling to motivate the players. Only going to go one way!!

The worst thing about all this is its actually put me off watching any football. There's Arsenal vs Spurs on now and I couldn't care less. I've not watched any MOTD and I used to watch that every single Saturday aswell. I've honestly not felt so down about us and football since the Roy Hodgson days.

I dont think sacking Slot at this point is a kneejerk reaction..  and if we've not been looking at alternatives, then more fool us. I think even getting top4 under Slot is going to be a massive struggle.

I think last year there was a point to prove and the players were buzzing, maybe why we tailed off last year as the novelty wore off. This year the players aren’t running and we are being out run in every match now…. which used to be our calling card under Klopp. Even a Sh*t team that runs will trouble a good team that doesn’t. Say what you say about Hendo but he was a good captain, not sure VVD has the personality. Allison is probably our only true leader left in the team but he’s often injured.

I really can’t understand how a team could be so good then become so bad in less than a year. Something must have happened behind the scenes because it’s the only logical answer as to how a team could degrade so quickly.

It also really doesn’t help when we start every match 0-1

I agree about this ruining my appetite for football.