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by **Reg** » Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:53 pm

Bellingham's stats show that at 19 he’s played double the amount of games Gerrard had played at the same age #burnout at 23 …..

by **red till i die!!** » Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:14 pm

That's a tough call to make Reg. Gerrard was pretty decent into his early thirties. Bellingham has played nearly 130 games according to wiki which I wouldn't think is a lot for a lad with that talent. Elliot is a few months older and has 110 senior appearances and probably would have equalled it only for the season out with the injury. No reason why we couldn't get 5 good years out of him and then sell him on.

Anyway disappointing news that we pulled out of the race imo. He was always going to cost a bit and attract other clubs so this is nothing new and neither is our response. We were never going to spend massive money to land him as its against club policy to do that.

by **ycsatbjywtbiastkamb** » Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:38 pm

We'll end up with Mount and Tiielemans its a cert.

by **Doeboy** » Thu Apr 13, 2023 8:43 pm

Not sold on Tielemans. Don't think he has the work rate or intensity for a Klopp team.

Much rather Conor Gallagher. For me, he has the potential to be a great fit in a Klopp side. Aggressive, great engine and a box to box type, gets his foot in. Only 23.

Honestly belive he could one of those under the radar signings which people are not too sure about but his raw tools just look so suited to the way we play and Klopp could take his games up levels

Also he scored 8 league goals for Palace when on loan to them last season.

by **ycsatbjywtbiastkamb** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:12 pm

Doeboy » Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:43 pm wrote:Not sold on Tielemans. Don't think he has the work rate or intensity for a Klopp team.

Much rather Conor Gallagher. For me, he has the potential to be a great fit in a Klopp side. Aggressive, great engine and a box to box type, gets his foot in. Only 23.

Honestly belive he could one of those under the radar signings which people are not too sure about but his raw tools just look so suited to the way we play and Klopp could take his games up levels

Also he scored 8 league goals for Palace when on loan to them last season.

Not convinced by any of them tbh mate - Mount, Gallagher or Tielemans. What ever happened to our interested in that Moroccan CM from the WC? The big lad?

by **Eagle** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:33 pm

Rice, Tchouameni, Barella, McAllister, Tielemans, Nunes, Gallagher, Mount and Palihinha. Just some of the players who we've been linked too in the past 24 hours. And there will be a lot more to come!

by **Eagle** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:37 pm

If we really do have a world class recruitment team working with our world class manager it really shouldn't be that difficult to find 2 X £40-60mil midfielders in their early 20s playing in France, Portugal, Germany, Spain, or Italy, that will play a big part in the evolution to our next title challenging side.

by **Doeboy** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:07 pm

Eagle » Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:37 pm wrote:If we really do have a world class recruitment team working with our world class manager it really shouldn't be that difficult to find 2 X £40-60mil midfielders in their early 20s playing in France, Portugal, Germany, Spain, or Italy, that will play a big part in the evolution to our next title challenging side.

What are your thoughts on Gallagher sir

by **Eagle** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:23 pm

Doeboy » Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:07 pm wrote:
Eagle » Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:37 pm wrote:If we really do have a world class recruitment team working with our world class manager it really shouldn't be that difficult to find 2 X £40-60mil midfielders in their early 20s playing in France, Portugal, Germany, Spain, or Italy, that will play a big part in the evolution to our next title challenging side.

What are your thoughts on Gallagher sir

Looks good at pressing and getting into the final third to get into goal scoring positions but technically average and not particularly good at moving the ball forward from the second to the final third. Neither he or Mount are out and out midfielders and are not progressive passers either. Most of Mount's success has been playing in attack so I don't really get our interest in him unless we're switching to a 2 in midfield and he's going to play as a 10. If we want him to play in midfield I'd find that a bit strange. We really need to stop trying to shoehorn players into positions their not suited too (see Elliott in midfield).

We've also had some tentative links to Khephren Thuram. Granted it's only YouTube highlights I've seen but he looks a proper midfield player so would be excited if he came in. Great genes too!

by **Doeboy** » Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:38 pm

Eagle » Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:23 pm wrote:
Doeboy » Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:07 pm wrote:
Eagle » Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:37 pm wrote:If we really do have a world class recruitment team working with our world class manager it really shouldn't be that difficult to find 2 X £40-60mil midfielders in their early 20s playing in France, Portugal, Germany, Spain, or Italy, that will play a big part in the evolution to our next title challenging side.

What are your thoughts on Gallagher sir

Looks good at pressing and getting into the final third to get into goal scoring positions but technically average and not particularly good at moving the ball forward from the second to the final third. Neither he or Mount are out and out midfielders and are not progressive passers either. Most of Mount's success has been playing in attack so I don't really get our interest in him unless we're switching to a 2 in midfield and he's going to play as a 10. If we want him to play in midfield I'd find that a bit strange. We really need to stop trying to shoehorn players into positions their not suited too (see Elliott in midfield).

We've also had some tentative links to Khephren Thuram. Granted it's only YouTube highlights I've seen but he looks a proper midfield player so would be excited if he came in. Great genes too!

Thanks sir. Agree about Mount. I think the thing with Gallagher is I don't necessarily think we need all our midfielders to be technically brilliant if other parts of their game are very strong. Gallagher alongside a more defensive minded player and another who does posesses very good technical ability is a good mix.

Fabinho, Hendo and Wijnaldum was a a brilliant combination with each bringing different strengths to the table. I don't think Fabinho and Hendo are technically great but as a unit the 3 just clicked.

by **Reg** » Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:02 am

Mount is a squad player with a British passport. One for one swap with Ox.

by **UvS xR4GEx** » Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:09 pm

There's plenty of good up and coming English talent if that's what we're aiming for. Both Joe Willock and Jacob Ramsey would be brilliant buys.. both are young and are yet to feature at international level. I think Gravenberch has alot of potential too, so snapping him up for around £30m would be good buisness.

If Jude stays another year at Dortmund then he'll only have a year left on his contact.. we should go back in then with a £70m take it or leave it deal.

by **Eagle** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:31 pm

This is being reported by a number of reliable sources now. Gravenberch was reportedly one of the midfielders we were speaking to last year when we were waiting for Tchouameni to confirm his position but ended up going to Bayern early in the window rather than hang around and wait for us. Looks like we've learnt our lesson after having our fingers burnt. Can't recall seeing Gravenberch play but looks a big lad who's good on the turn and driving forward with the ball.

Liverpool step up interest in Bayern midfielder Ryan Gravenberch

Liverpool have stepped up their interest in Ryan Gravenberch, the 20-year-old Holland midfielder, as they look to press ahead quickly with plans to rebuild in midfield.

A representative of the club was in Holland on Tuesday for talks with Gravenberch’s father, Ryan senior, who mentors the player’s career.

Gravenberch was one of the most coveted talents in Europe when he broke through at Ajax as a 16-year-old, becoming the Eredevisie’s youngest-ever debutant, and the sixth-youngest Dutch international when he won his first Holland cap in 2021.

However, he has found playing opportunities limited since moving to Bayern Munich in a £21 million deal last summer. This has led him to consider his future and he figures prominently on Liverpool’s list of midfield targets, with a projected price tag of about £25 million.

Liverpool were tracking Gravenberch long before they pulled out of the chase for Jude Bellingham last week because of doubts over joining what is likely to be a protracted bidding war for him, and over whether they could match the likes of Manchester City and Real Madrid for price.

Bellingham is expected to cost in the region of £130 million, which would devour the bulk of Liverpool’s budget. Instead, the club have decided to spend the money on a number of players and try to get business done quickly.

The tall, athletic and technical Gravenberch has been compared to Frank Rijkaard and during his stellar early years at Ajax, where he was a favourite of Erik ten Hag, could play at No 6, No 10 and as a left-sided No 8.

Gravenberch has not been picked by Bayern’s new manager Thomas Tuchel who said last week: “I see Ryan’s qualities in training, he’s doing well. He’s a midfielder who can turn and dribble very well. Now it’s about being patient. It’s about fighting to be there.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d4cc ... 35422a26a8

by **red till i die!!** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:59 pm

Seems to be really strong interest in him alright and maybe we are trying to get in before Ten Haag does. Didn't know we were interested in him last year either and likewise not seen the lad play.

Why is he looking to move less than a year later though ? Young lad like that moving to an established team was never going to walk straight in but he has played a lot of games. Do they not want him or does he want out ? Either way it's strange to see a player move on less than a year after moving there.

by **Penguins** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:35 pm

I think Bayern see a huge opportunity to CASH in considering they only paid 17-18 million last summer....

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