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Being the old soft sod that I am I like Mign and I think he is a good lad and works hard. Yes he has made mistakes and yes it is possible that we could get another goalkeeper who made less mistakes but didn't manage to pull off some of Migns wonder saves. Some clown recently wrote (not on our beloved forum) that his mistakes had cost us 15 points this season and that we would be second in the league if it wasn't for all Migns clangers. The clown totally ignored the fact that on several occasions with the very limited number of goals that we score that he was a key reason why we managed a win or a draw. If we had a half decent mdfield and an attack that actually scored goals then a massive amount of the pressure would be lifted off his shoulders. This lad gets castigated more than any other player in the team. On Sunday he made sevral saves that kept us in the game but lests forget that and concentrate on his mistakes. Well all I can say is that it was a fkg good job that he didn't wait until the 87th minute to actually do what he is paid to do. One shot on target in 87 minutes. THAT IS THE REAL PROBLEM !!

I always anticipate a mistake from him and I think the players do too. It is disheartening! a goalie more than anything needs to be consistent. The only way we can accept him as a goalie is if we score 4 or 5 every match and since we don't any more ( we struggle to score one) his mistakes become terminal. He needs replacing next season and I think that should be the number one priority.

devaney » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:11 pm wrote:Being the old soft sod that I am I like Mign and I think he is a good lad and works hard. Yes he has made mistakes and yes it is possible that we could get another goalkeeper who made less mistakes but didn't manage to pull off some of Migns wonder saves. Some clown recently wrote (not on our beloved forum) that his mistakes had cost us 15 points this season and that we would be second in the league if it wasn't for all Migns clangers. The clown totally ignored the fact that on several occasions with the very limited number of goals that we score that he was a key reason why we managed a win or a draw. If we had a half decent mdfield and an attack that actually scored goals then a massive amount of the pressure would be lifted off his shoulders. This lad gets castigated more than any other player in the team. On Sunday he made sevral saves that kept us in the game but lests forget that and concentrate on his mistakes. Well all I can say is that it was a fkg good job that he didn't wait until the 87th minute to actually do what he is paid to do. One shot on target in 87 minutes. THAT IS THE REAL PROBLEM !!

well said

It's OK saying he made one mistake and several good saves against City. There was more than occasion where a City player had a free header from a corner 6-8 yards out. Kompany in particular missed one sitter. A commanding keeper would be dealing with crosses in that area. And two of his one on one saves that looked great on TV were actually straight at him and luck was involved.

He did make one absolutely superb save from Aguero after Sakho lost his footing (as he was clearly concussed) just before he was subbed. He also made one class save v Augsborg the other night in a one v one. But it's not enough to compensate for his howlers and inability to deal with crosses/corners.

In terms of chances City should have been out of sight in that game. Some chances thwarted were down to Mignolet but he was the making of others, not just the goal.

Would I like to replace Mignolet?
Preferably yes, but it is far from the no 1 priority right now.
There are so many holes in the squad right now, goalie isn't what 1st come to mind....

The problem with Migs is he represents everything that's wrong with our squad. He cost a huge sum of money from (then) a mid-table side and often looks lost on the bigger stage. Same goes for Lallana, Lovern, Allen, Benteke and god knows how many more. It isn't good enough and our fans are justifiably angry.

I read somewhere that Migs makes more individual mistakes that result in goals than any other player in the premier league. That's a stat he's held the TWO seasons in a row and until we fix that, our defence is always going to be hapless.

*Edit - here's the source of that fact I quoted http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... nce-201314

devaney » Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:11 pm wrote:Being the old soft sod that I am I like Mign and I think he is a good lad and works hard. Yes he has made mistakes and yes it is possible that we could get another goalkeeper who made less mistakes but didn't manage to pull off some of Migns wonder saves. Some clown recently wrote (not on our beloved forum) that his mistakes had cost us 15 points this season and that we would be second in the league if it wasn't for all Migns clangers. The clown totally ignored the fact that on several occasions with the very limited number of goals that we score that he was a key reason why we managed a win or a draw. If we had a half decent mdfield and an attack that actually scored goals then a massive amount of the pressure would be lifted off his shoulders. This lad gets castigated more than any other player in the team. On Sunday he made sevral saves that kept us in the game but lests forget that and concentrate on his mistakes. Well all I can say is that it was a fkg good job that he didn't wait until the 87th minute to actually do what he is paid to do. One shot on target in 87 minutes. THAT IS THE REAL PROBLEM !!

Mingolets mistake totally changed the whole dynamic of the match though, before he f**ked up the game was pretty cagey and I actually thought we looked quite comfortable, after his mistake we were forced to throw caution to the wind which then allowed City to continually pick us off on the break.
Yes he made some unbelievable saves but he wouldn't have had to if he would have made that routine save.
In big finals against sides like City you just can't afford to gift them a goal like that.

not fit to be LFC's keeper... probably the same level as David James playing for us, Brad Friedle playing for us and Sander Westerveld.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:02 pm wrote:

devaney » Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:11 pm wrote:Being the old soft sod that I am I like Mign and I think he is a good lad and works hard. Yes he has made mistakes and yes it is possible that we could get another goalkeeper who made less mistakes but didn't manage to pull off some of Migns wonder saves. Some clown recently wrote (not on our beloved forum) that his mistakes had cost us 15 points this season and that we would be second in the league if it wasn't for all Migns clangers. The clown totally ignored the fact that on several occasions with the very limited number of goals that we score that he was a key reason why we managed a win or a draw. If we had a half decent mdfield and an attack that actually scored goals then a massive amount of the pressure would be lifted off his shoulders. This lad gets castigated more than any other player in the team. On Sunday he made sevral saves that kept us in the game but lests forget that and concentrate on his mistakes. Well all I can say is that it was a fkg good job that he didn't wait until the 87th minute to actually do what he is paid to do. One shot on target in 87 minutes. THAT IS THE REAL PROBLEM !!

Mingolets mistake totally changed the whole dynamic of the match though, before he f**ked up the game was pretty cagey and I actually thought we looked quite comfortable, after his mistake we were forced to throw caution to the wind which then allowed City to continually pick us off on the break.
Yes he made some unbelievable saves either but he wouldn't have had to if he would have made that routine save.
In big finals against sides like City you just can't afford to gift them a goal like that.

This is the point, his mistakes change the whole complexion of matches. I am not convinced that he made some unbelievable saves, bar one I would expect any keeper to make as they were more down to poor finishing. I agree that the team is full of holes but the keeper has to be better as his mistakes change games and we do not have the fire power to overcome them. Every time he has made poor mistakes the players head drop and the opposing team has become more confident, cannot continue. I agree he is a nice bloke, good professional etc but he has the most important position in the team and he is a liability. No room for sentiment where the goalie is concerned.we have been making the same complaints about Ming for three years and I don't see him suddenly becoming a world beater. Poor at kicking, poor at crosses, not a leader and an average shot stopper, as I see it quite obvious really!

I have never been one to attack our players but he just is not good enough.

maguskwt » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:43 am wrote:not fit to be LFC's keeper... probably the same level as David James playing for us, Brad Friedle playing for us and Sander Westerveld.

Why is it to hard to get a good goalie? The above mentioned were all monsters....

I admit LFC do some very stupid things but generally giving a player that has been at the club for some time a 5 year contract and a considerable increase in wages that they don't rate isn't one of them. Let's not forget that if it hadn't been for Mign we would not have been in the final !!

devaney » Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:12 am wrote:I admit LFC do some very stupid things but generally giving a player that has been at the club for some time a 5 year contract and a considerable increase in wages that they don't rate isn't one of them. Let's not forget that if it hadn't been for Mign we would not have been in the final !!

You could say the same about Bogdan and his heroics against Boro!
Mingolet is an Achilles heel that opposition teams actively target, even when we are winning his mere presence in our side gives teams hope that they can get back in it, they all know that they don't have to do anything special just a basic, bog standard cross can be enough.
Mingolet has had 3 years to make that jersey his own and he hasn't done it, the likes of Friedel, Westerweld, Dudek etc got nowhere near that length of time to prove themselves.

In your eyes Yakka he hasn't made the jersey his own. The club seem to think differently. Apart from a short spell after Rogers idiotically dropped him from the United game he has probably been the first name on the sheet.

I wonder how many clean sheets he's kept in the time he's been with LFC? didn't he hold the record for the most a season or 2 ago?

I like Mignolet because he never  gets the sniffles ,never moans his arse off to the media about being unappreciated ,and gets injured less than Bruce Willis in unbreakable. In point of fact I think any keeper with a growing reputation would shudder at the thought of chancing their arm at being our custodian betwixt the sticks ,I mean we don't exactly place our keepers on a pedestal or inspire the confidence in them to make them bulletproof.