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He's also been racking up assists like a mad man tho. He's at 7 in the league now, only 2 behind the league leader, and he's had some instances where bad calls cost him an assist (at city) or dreadful finishing has. 

When him and Sturridge were back together, it was obvious some of the goal scoring would be put on Danny so I'm not surprised, but Suarez has been involved in setting up quite a few of those chances.

ethanr » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:25 pm wrote:He's also been racking up assists like a mad man tho. He's at 7 in the league now, only 2 behind the league leader, and he's had some instances where bad calls cost him an assist (at city) or dreadful finishing has. 

When him and Sturridge were back together, it was obvious some of the goal scoring would be put on Danny so I'm not surprised, but Suarez has been involved in setting up quite a few of those chances.

The thing is though, when he was uptop on his own, he was scoring LOADS and setting the rest up. Against Spurs and Norwich, he was responsible for every goal, he either set it up, or scored.

He's not quite having the same effect at the moment, this in part is due to Sturridge's presence in the team.

Red Focus » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:56 pm wrote:I have totally forgiven LS after he signed the new contract and with rumours that if he leaves it would be for 70M. Why have I forgiven him? Because not only did he play his heart out and is the top scorer but also he won't be doing a McManaman on us if he leaves in the summer because of the new contract. McManaman left and we got nothing, if LS leaves because we didn't finish 4th, then whoever wants him would have to pay the high price tag and we can strengthen with the millions we'll get from him. So I am grateful to LS for that.

Jolly good    I reckon Luis will sleep at night now 

Just what the fk was there to forgive him for and you maybe slightly surprised but I'm being serious. Ok so he shook up Ayres, the owners and Gerrard in the summer with his demands. He was understandably p.issed off with the lack of ambition displayed by some of his colleagues and I'm am not simply referring to players. It is high time that some of those people got the kick up the a.rse that they rightfully deserved. His ambition and frustration have helped enormously to get Liverpool FC closer to the arena he craves so much. His methods are unorthodox and whilst biting and diving are unacceptable it displays an edge to his character that any team would welcome in a millisecond. His work rate is simply amazing. His determination is what I would like to see from every player that pulls on a red shirt.Phenomenal footballer who is capable of challenging for the highest possible accolades. We are incredibly lucky to have him which has always been my stance.Luis gets my unconditional gratitude for being Luis Suarez warts and all but I'm really struggling to find any reason why fans should feel the need to offer him their forgiveness. As I said earlier FORGIVE HIM FOR WHAT ?

Stu the Red » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:10 pm wrote:Some of it is to do with Sturridge. Luis isn't always the focal point of our attack (which makes no sense) and he's having to supply more than he was doing earlier in the season when Sturridge was out of the side. He's having to adapt his game to accomidate a lesser player and it is starting to hurt us a little.

I don't agree with this. Suarez can cause havoc anywhere he plays, that's why he's being used as more of a second striker or a winger-forward. He also said so himself that his preferred position is second striker.

But the main reason I don't agree with this is because we actually don't have just a single player who is the focal point of our attack. That's what's so good about this system. The attacking trio constantly changes their positions and all three of them could be a striker and a winger at different points during a game. If a thing like that works (and it does) it's very difficult to handle for the opposition (and it is).

Suarez might just be having a bit of a dip in form (if we can call it that since he has still been phenomenal) and it's definitely not because of Sturridge.

damjan193 » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:29 pm wrote:

Stu the Red » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:10 pm wrote:Some of it is to do with Sturridge. Luis isn't always the focal point of our attack (which makes no sense) and he's having to supply more than he was doing earlier in the season when Sturridge was out of the side. He's having to adapt his game to accomidate a lesser player and it is starting to hurt us a little.

I don't agree with this. Suarez can cause havoc anywhere he plays, that's why he's being used as more of a second striker or a winger-forward. He also said so himself that his preferred position is second striker.

But the main reason I don't agree with this is because we actually don't have just a single player who is the focal point of our attack. That's what's so good about this system. The attacking trio constantly changes their positions and all three of them could be a striker and a winger at different points during a game. If a thing like that works (and it does) it's very difficult to handle for the opposition (and it is).

Suarez might just be having a bit of a dip in form (if we can call it that since he has still been phenomenal) and it's definitely not because of Sturridge.

Don't bite 

damjan193 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:29 am wrote:

Stu the Red » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:10 pm wrote:Some of it is to do with Sturridge. Luis isn't always the focal point of our attack (which makes no sense) and he's having to supply more than he was doing earlier in the season when Sturridge was out of the side. He's having to adapt his game to accomidate a lesser player and it is starting to hurt us a little.

I don't agree with this. Suarez can cause havoc anywhere he plays, that's why he's being used as more of a second striker or a winger-forward. He also said so himself that his preferred position is second striker.

But the main reason I don't agree with this is because we actually don't have just a single player who is the focal point of our attack. That's what's so good about this system. The attacking trio constantly changes their positions and all three of them could be a striker and a winger at different points during a game. If a thing like that works (and it does) it's very difficult to handle for the opposition (and it is).

Suarez might just be having a bit of a dip in form (if we can call it that since he has still been phenomenal) and it's definitely not because of Sturridge.

You don't agree with this yet practically repeat and agree with my point yet worded slightly differently?

I agree Suarez can cause havoc wherever he plays, however he's proven his best position, is upfront, on his own, where he was scoring and creating practically every goal we scored. He scored 10 goals in a calander month playing on his own, do you realise that some great players haven't even scored 10 league goals in a season during some seasons of their career? He done it in a month, not by concidence, Sturridge wasn't in the side.

You then say there isn't a focal point, well why isn't there? As it was clear we played our best stuff when Luis was the focal point and he scored the most goals. You also suggest that its great that Sturridge and Suarez find themselves on the wings... What's great about having your best and better players out of positions and doing things that don't come naturally to them?

To be quite honest, if I was lining my side up against Liverpool and they started with Suarez on the left, I'd be extremely relieved as he's proven many a time, when he plays upfront, he's capable of embarrassing some of the best defenders in the world.

Stu the Red » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:30 pm wrote:

damjan193 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:29 am wrote:

Stu the Red » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:10 pm wrote:Some of it is to do with Sturridge. Luis isn't always the focal point of our attack (which makes no sense) and he's having to supply more than he was doing earlier in the season when Sturridge was out of the side. He's having to adapt his game to accomidate a lesser player and it is starting to hurt us a little.

I don't agree with this. Suarez can cause havoc anywhere he plays, that's why he's being used as more of a second striker or a winger-forward. He also said so himself that his preferred position is second striker.

But the main reason I don't agree with this is because we actually don't have just a single player who is the focal point of our attack. That's what's so good about this system. The attacking trio constantly changes their positions and all three of them could be a striker and a winger at different points during a game. If a thing like that works (and it does) it's very difficult to handle for the opposition (and it is).

Suarez might just be having a bit of a dip in form (if we can call it that since he has still been phenomenal) and it's definitely not because of Sturridge.

You don't agree with this yet practically repeat and agree with my point yet worded slightly differently?

I agree Suarez can cause havoc wherever he plays, however he's proven his best position, is upfront, on his own, where he was scoring and creating practically every goal we scored. He scored 10 goals in a calander month playing on his own, do you realise that some great players haven't even scored 10 league goals in a season during some seasons of their career? He done it in a month, not by concidence, Sturridge wasn't in the side.

You then say there isn't a focal point, well why isn't there? As it was clear we played our best stuff when Luis was the focal point and he scored the most goals. You also suggest that its great that Sturridge and Suarez find themselves on the wings... What's great about having your best and better players out of positions and doing things that don't come naturally to them?

To be quite honest, if I was lining my side up against Liverpool and they started with Suarez on the left, I'd be extremely relieved as he's proven many a time, when he plays upfront, he's capable of embarrassing some of the best defenders in the world.

I think that the point where we disagree is obvious. You think that Sturrdige is to blame for Suarez' slight dip in form (again, if we can call it that), I don't. I think that it's better to have our players to constantly overlap and change positions (I think that a free-form in our attack is more difficult to defend against), you don't. I have no problem if you think that we should have Suarez as our single striker though, it's just a matter of opinions and there probably isn't a single right answer. But I think that suggesting that Sturridge should be blamed for Suarez scoring less goals and that Suarez accommodates him is wrong. I think that the goal count is now shared between the two and if anything, they accommodate each other.

damjan193 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:04 am wrote:I think that the point where we disagree is obvious. You think that Sturrdige is to blame for Suarez' slight dip in form (again, if we can call it that), I don't. I think that it's better to have our players to constantly overlap and change positions (I think that a free-form in our attack is more difficult to defend against), you don't. I have no problem if you think that we should have Suarez as our single striker though, it's just a matter of opinions and there probably isn't a single right answer. But I think that suggesting that Sturridge should be blamed for Suarez scoring less goals and that Suarez accommodates him is wrong. I think that the goal count is now shared between the two and if anything, they accommodate each other.

I don't "think" that Suarez dip in form is due to Sturridge's presence, I KNOW it is.

I also don't believe that it is better to have the best forward in the world and play him partially on the wing. That to me is complete and utter bollox to be honest and I can't quite believe you think playing players out of position is in anyway beneficial to the team. Do you actually think top class players will be confused by players changing positions?

You play your best players in their best positions. Its as simple as that. You play a player like Suarez in his best position where he will touch the ball as many times as possible in dangerous area's. You don't want him having to track over lapping full backs to the edge of his own box. If he has 80 touches in a game and 40 are on the wing.. instead of in the opposition half or area, then you're negating his influence.

To be quite honest, I find your mind set and inability to see the basics of the game quite staggering for someone who has a such a strong opinion.

I've always believed in playing to your strengths and playing to the oppositions weaknesses... I also believe in playing players in their natural positions... Something that seems to be lost on most on this board.

Stu the Red » Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:35 pm wrote:

damjan193 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:04 am wrote:I think that the point where we disagree is obvious. You think that Sturrdige is to blame for Suarez' slight dip in form (again, if we can call it that), I don't. I think that it's better to have our players to constantly overlap and change positions (I think that a free-form in our attack is more difficult to defend against), you don't. I have no problem if you think that we should have Suarez as our single striker though, it's just a matter of opinions and there probably isn't a single right answer. But I think that suggesting that Sturridge should be blamed for Suarez scoring less goals and that Suarez accommodates him is wrong. I think that the goal count is now shared between the two and if anything, they accommodate each other.

I don't "think" that Suarez dip in form is due to Sturridge's presence, I KNOW it is.

I also don't believe that it is better to have the best forward in the world and play him partially on the wing. That to me is complete and utter bollox to be honest and I can't quite believe you think playing players out of position is in anyway beneficial to the team. Do you actually think top class players will be confused by players changing positions?

You play your best players in their best positions. Its as simple as that. You play a player like Suarez in his best position where he will touch the ball as many times as possible in dangerous area's. You don't want him having to track over lapping full backs to the edge of his own box. If he has 80 touches in a game and 40 are on the wing.. instead of in the opposition half or area, then you're negating his influence.

To be quite honest, I find your mind set and inability to see the basics of the game quite staggering for someone who has a such a strong opinion.

I've always believed in playing to your strengths and playing to the oppositions weaknesses... I also believe in playing players in their natural positions... Something that seems to be lost on most on this board.

you're a good lad Stu, and I think that you know a lot about football, it's just too bad that you let your ego get in your way.

Tell you what, why don't you watch Barca for a bit this weekend (a system that we're desperately trying to copy), watch how their attack works and then come back and tell me how they don't know the basics.

I'm not saying that your opinion is wrong, but it's stupid to dismiss mine when there are clearly a lot of successful teams that work like the way that I think we should play. It's not like I'm reinventing the wheel here. It's a system that has existed for a while now.

Stu the Red » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:35 pm wrote:

damjan193 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:04 am wrote:I think that the point where we disagree is obvious. You think that Sturrdige is to blame for Suarez' slight dip in form (again, if we can call it that), I don't. I think that it's better to have our players to constantly overlap and change positions (I think that a free-form in our attack is more difficult to defend against), you don't. I have no problem if you think that we should have Suarez as our single striker though, it's just a matter of opinions and there probably isn't a single right answer. But I think that suggesting that Sturridge should be blamed for Suarez scoring less goals and that Suarez accommodates him is wrong. I think that the goal count is now shared between the two and if anything, they accommodate each other.

I don't "think" that Suarez dip in form is due to Sturridge's presence, I KNOW it is.

I also don't believe that it is better to have the best forward in the world and play him partially on the wing. That to me is complete and utter bollox to be honest and I can't quite believe you think playing players out of position is in anyway beneficial to the team. Do you actually think top class players will be confused by players changing positions?

You play your best players in their best positions. Its as simple as that. You play a player like Suarez in his best position where he will touch the ball as many times as possible in dangerous area's. You don't want him having to track over lapping full backs to the edge of his own box. If he has 80 touches in a game and 40 are on the wing.. instead of in the opposition half or area, then you're negating his influence.

To be quite honest, I find your mind set and inability to see the basics of the game quite staggering for someone who has a such a strong opinion.

I've always believed in playing to your strengths and playing to the oppositions weaknesses... I also believe in playing players in their natural positions... Something that seems to be lost on most on this board.

Stu your fundamental problem is the inability to see the difference between your opinion and a fact. You see your opinions as fact. You have never accepted your opinion is wrong, you also never have changed your opinion in light of new evidence. You're an old stubborn grandad ahead of your time.

damjan193 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:22 pm wrote: you're a good lad Stu, and I think that you know a lot about football, it's just too bad that you let your ego get in your way.

Tell you what, why don't you watch Barca for a bit this weekend (a system that we're desperately trying to copy), watch how their attack works and then come back and tell me how they don't know the basics.

I'm not saying that your opinion is wrong, but it's stupid to dismiss mine when there are clearly a lot of successful teams that work like the way that I think we should play. It's not like I'm reinventing the wheel here. It's a system that has existed for a while now.

So just to be clear, you're talking about us trying to copy one of the best sides ever, with probably the best player ever and as many as seven or eight truly world class footballers, with our one world class footballer and two or three good players?

Do you actually believe that Henderson swapping with Suarez, and Suarez and Sturridge tracking runners down the wing and Joe Allen and Coutinho being on the end of moves makes us a better side? Do you actually believe that by amaking Suarez track runners down the wing its not hindering his ability to get into the box? Do you actually think the likes of Henderson, Allen, an ageing Gerrard, Coutinho and Sterling are anything like the same quality as Iniesta, Xavi, Sanchez, Messi, Neymar, Pedro and whoever else?

To be quite honest, its clear to see you're listening to a lot of media baloney and just repeating it as your own baseless opinion. If you can give me a good reason as to why you think a defender will be "confused" by players swapping positions I'm all ears...

To be quite honest, if I was playing against Liverpool as a centre half, it would confuse the living day lights out of me if I had to defend against Henderson more in a game because him and Suarez keep swapping positions as it would make them much easier to defend against. I'd be confused, and delighted as I know who I'd rather play directly against, and it wouldn't be Henderson.

The point is, we don't have world class players, the FACT... and I repeat this again for you damjan and the bellend above, IT IS AN ABSOLUTE FACT that when a player like Suarez is encouraged to "swap positions" he has less touches in his most dangerous area's (through the middle and in the oppositions box) as he's having to perform other tasks. I don't quite get how you're missing that point? He scored so many and created so many earlier on because we were playing to his strengths. We were asking him to do what he's good at... rather than what he's been doing a lot of recently and tracking runners.

Suarez needs to be in the opposition area taking as many touches as he can in that position, not tracking overlapping full backs and wingers for a third of a match, if you can't see that then you're watching the wrong sport mate.

SouthCoastShankly » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:38 pm wrote:Stu your fundamental problem is the inability to see the difference between your opinion and a fact. You see your opinions as fact. You have never accepted your opinion is wrong, you also never have changed your opinion in light of new evidence. You're an old stubborn grandad ahead of your time.

And your fundamental problem is the inability to distinguish when someone is talking sense and take notice and learn from what someone is saying rather than trying to start arguments over things you have absolutely no idea about. What I effectively stated as fact, was Suarez, when on the wing, will be required to track wingers and full backs and will therefore not be in the most dangerous attacking positions for the team.

Now, you may state it as opinion that you think our best player is best suited to that, role, but quite frankly, its absolute bollox and if that is your opinion, then you're entitled to it, but you are very wrong.

You're entitled to have an opinion such as "a circle has four sides"... its just an opinion, everyone's entitled to one, it doesn't mean your opinion can't be wrong, because I can assure you, having that "opinion" makes you very wrong. Just as it does with Suarez.

As for not changing my opinion "in light of new evidence"... I do fail to see where you're coming from, I've already admitted a couple of times so far in making error's in judgement on Sterling and also, even to an extent Sahko. If you're however refering to Sturridge, which I have no doubt you are.... if he scores a 100 goals this season, I'll still KNOW that his decision making still lets him down as a player, as does his attitude and influence on a game.

Your arguments are laughable, weak and so far off being correct you aren't even worth replying too. Some of the statements you've made this season calling Lucas and Skrtel "the best in the league" as well as Gerrard is the same sort of player as Alonso proves you clearly don't have a clue what you're watching. You never confront an argument head on and you often change the subject in an argument when you realise its clear the poster you're disagreeing with has more of an idea on what they're talking about.

Stu the Red » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:34 pm wrote:

damjan193 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:22 pm wrote: you're a good lad Stu, and I think that you know a lot about football, it's just too bad that you let your ego get in your way.

Tell you what, why don't you watch Barca for a bit this weekend (a system that we're desperately trying to copy), watch how their attack works and then come back and tell me how they don't know the basics.

I'm not saying that your opinion is wrong, but it's stupid to dismiss mine when there are clearly a lot of successful teams that work like the way that I think we should play. It's not like I'm reinventing the wheel here. It's a system that has existed for a while now.

So just to be clear, you're talking about us trying to copy one of the best sides ever, with probably the best player ever and as many as seven or eight truly world class footballers, with our one world class footballer and two or three good players?

Do you actually believe that Henderson swapping with Suarez, and Suarez and Sturridge tracking runners down the wing and Joe Allen and Coutinho being on the end of moves makes us a better side? Do you actually believe that by amaking Suarez track runners down the wing its not hindering his ability to get into the box? Do you actually think the likes of Henderson, Allen, an ageing Gerrard, Coutinho and Sterling are anything like the same quality as Iniesta, Xavi, Sanchez, Messi, Neymar, Pedro and whoever else?

To be quite honest, its clear to see you're listening to a lot of media baloney and just repeating it as your own baseless opinion. If you can give me a good reason as to why you think a defender will be "confused" by players swapping positions I'm all ears...

To be quite honest, if I was playing against Liverpool as a centre half, it would confuse the living day lights out of me if I had to defend against Henderson more in a game because him and Suarez keep swapping positions as it would make them much easier to defend against. I'd be confused, and delighted as I know who I'd rather play directly against, and it wouldn't be Henderson.

The point is, we don't have world class players, the FACT... and I repeat this again for you damjan and the bellend above, IT IS AN ABSOLUTE FACT that when a player like Suarez is encouraged to "swap positions" he has less touches in his most dangerous area's (through the middle and in the oppositions box) as he's having to perform other tasks. I don't quite get how you're missing that point? He scored so many and created so many earlier on because we were playing to his strengths. We were asking him to do what he's good at... rather than what he's been doing a lot of recently and tracking runners.

Suarez needs to be in the opposition area taking as many touches as he can in that position, not tracking overlapping full backs and wingers for a third of a match, if you can't see that then you're watching the wrong sport mate.

You obviously have absolutely no idea how the system works. I'm not surprised though, since you said that whoever uses this system doesn't know the basics (even though a lot of successful teams have been playing like that for years). Also, I never mentioned anything about strikers swapping positions with midfielders or strikers tracking fullbacks nor did I mention anything about creating confusion by doing this, you added those stuff by yourself.

Strikers shouldn't be swapping positions with the midfield, they should only swap positions with another striker.

You got me totally confused when you said that Suarez or Sturridge will have to chase the opposition fullbacks. I think that this is where you don't understand the system. Only one of the three attacking players tracks fullbacks back to his own half, the rest is handled by the trio in midfield. This is why you rarely see Messi track back even though he's spent most of his career playing as a right winger-forward. Pedro on the other hand has more defensive assignments. So in our team, Sterling is our Pedro while Suarez is our Messi. The other two attackers aren't completely free of defensive duties though. The system has high pressure and holding a high defensive line as it's main form of defense and the entire team is involved in this, so it's not uncommon to see the two main strikers chasing opposition players.

As for the swapping positions part, it's not about creating confusion, it's more about allowing the strikers to run and challenge defenders more freely instead of having a strict position where the attacking player would always play on one of the flanks or through the middle.

I'm not saying that this is the best system there is. I'm not even sure if I personally like it that much. But it has obviously been successful for a lot of teams, and judging by our progress, with a few adjustments (including new players), it could be successful for us as well.

damjan193 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:56 pm wrote:

Stu the Red » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:34 pm wrote:

damjan193 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:22 pm wrote: you're a good lad Stu, and I think that you know a lot about football, it's just too bad that you let your ego get in your way.

Tell you what, why don't you watch Barca for a bit this weekend (a system that we're desperately trying to copy), watch how their attack works and then come back and tell me how they don't know the basics.

I'm not saying that your opinion is wrong, but it's stupid to dismiss mine when there are clearly a lot of successful teams that work like the way that I think we should play. It's not like I'm reinventing the wheel here. It's a system that has existed for a while now.

So just to be clear, you're talking about us trying to copy one of the best sides ever, with probably the best player ever and as many as seven or eight truly world class footballers, with our one world class footballer and two or three good players?

Do you actually believe that Henderson swapping with Suarez, and Suarez and Sturridge tracking runners down the wing and Joe Allen and Coutinho being on the end of moves makes us a better side? Do you actually believe that by amaking Suarez track runners down the wing its not hindering his ability to get into the box? Do you actually think the likes of Henderson, Allen, an ageing Gerrard, Coutinho and Sterling are anything like the same quality as Iniesta, Xavi, Sanchez, Messi, Neymar, Pedro and whoever else?

To be quite honest, its clear to see you're listening to a lot of media baloney and just repeating it as your own baseless opinion. If you can give me a good reason as to why you think a defender will be "confused" by players swapping positions I'm all ears...

To be quite honest, if I was playing against Liverpool as a centre half, it would confuse the living day lights out of me if I had to defend against Henderson more in a game because him and Suarez keep swapping positions as it would make them much easier to defend against. I'd be confused, and delighted as I know who I'd rather play directly against, and it wouldn't be Henderson.

The point is, we don't have world class players, the FACT... and I repeat this again for you damjan and the bellend above, IT IS AN ABSOLUTE FACT that when a player like Suarez is encouraged to "swap positions" he has less touches in his most dangerous area's (through the middle and in the oppositions box) as he's having to perform other tasks. I don't quite get how you're missing that point? He scored so many and created so many earlier on because we were playing to his strengths. We were asking him to do what he's good at... rather than what he's been doing a lot of recently and tracking runners.

Suarez needs to be in the opposition area taking as many touches as he can in that position, not tracking overlapping full backs and wingers for a third of a match, if you can't see that then you're watching the wrong sport mate.

You obviously have absolutely no idea how the system works. I'm not surprised though, since you said that whoever uses this system doesn't know the basics (even though a lot of successful teams have been playing like that for years). Also, I never mentioned anything about strikers swapping positions with midfielders or strikers tracking fullbacks nor did I mention anything about creating confusion by doing this, you added those stuff by yourself.

Strikers shouldn't be swapping positions with the midfield, they should only swap positions with another striker.

You got me totally confused when you said that Suarez or Sturridge will have to chase the opposition fullbacks. I think that this is where you don't understand the system. Only one of the three attacking players tracks fullbacks back to his own half, the rest is handled by the trio in midfield. This is why you rarely see Messi track back even though he's spent most of his career playing as a right winger-forward. Pedro on the other hand has more defensive assignments. So in our team, Sterling is our Pedro while Suarez is our Messi. The other two attackers aren't completely free of defensive duties though. The system has high pressure and holding a high defensive line as it's main form of defense and the entire team is involved in this, so it's not uncommon to see the two main strikers chasing opposition players.

As for the swapping positions part, it's not about creating confusion, it's more about allowing the strikers to run and challenge defenders more freely instead of having a strict position where the attacking player would always play on one of the flanks or through the middle.

I'm not saying that this is the best system there is. I'm not even sure if I personally like it that much. But it has obviously been successful for a lot of teams, and judging by our progress, with a few adjustments (including new players), it could be successful for us as well.

I understand perfectly how the system works and each players role within the system. I've been watching it and many variations of it for years and funnily enough its something I've studied for a long time.

You've moved away from the original argument, which was has Suarez form dipped due to Sturridge being in the side and I've presented you with a list of arguments as to why it has and why Luis has to accomadate Sturridge. You dismissed that, then pretty much contradict yourself.

The system earlier in the season was based completely on Luis and it got the best out of him. Since Sturridge has come into the side the system isn't the same and doesn't suit our best player as much hence the reason for his lesser impact in games.

Sturridge makes runs and gets into area's where Suarez was getting into, so therefore Luis has to change his game to suit Daniel, Luis is our best left winger and right winger... he could play there for anyone and do really well, but as a forward he's as good as there is and at the minute, he's playing off a forward who doesn't offer anything like the same quality to the team.

Suarez should play in the centre of a three, as the main outlet. Sturridge is hindering his form slightly. End of arguement.

It is not many seasons ago that we were asking the question just who is going to score the goals? We now find ourselves in the very luxurious position that our star striker isn't required to put the ball in the net when we thrash Arsenal 5-1. Rather than worry about a possible drop off in Luis's form which personally I think is minuscule I really do prefer to sit back and enjoy the fact that we are actually scoring plenty of goals