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by **Kharhaz** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:06 am

maguskwt » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:04 pm wrote:I don't think think Shrek is as good as the rest mentioned...

I don't either, he hasn't been since he joined united. And yet he is the model that everyone should strive to be in the world of football.

He is a lazy W*nk*r.

by **Stu the Red** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:39 am

Kharhaz » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:06 am wrote:
maguskwt » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:04 pm wrote:I don't think think Shrek is as good as the rest mentioned...

I don't either, he hasn't been since he joined united. And yet he is the model that everyone should strive to be in the world of football.

He is a lazy W*nk*r.

You've got to be kidding me?

Rooney's one of the best players in the country. f*cking stunning player. How anyone can question how good he is is beyond me and to call him lazy is quite simply incorrect.

I really do wonder whether some people watch football at times before commenting on it.

:no

by **Kenny Kan** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:10 am

Rooney is typically overrated.

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:30 am

StuYesThatStu » Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:50 am wrote:
SouthCoastShankly » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:57 pm wrote:
red till i die!! » Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:49 pm wrote:it amazes me at how much our players will go through just to play in a friendly

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... nt-2802264

"I've had a lot of treatment last few days, I've been working hard to make sure I'm okay," he said.

"I'm going to go out on the training field today and I'm raring to go for the game."

He was forced to miss the 2-0 defeat to the South Americans on Friday night and the 24-year-old admits it was difficult having to watch on from the sidelines.

"It was very frustrating," he added. "It's important for me to be fit and to play for England, it's an opportunity that I'm relishing.

"If I can remain fit, that's what's important for me, to be putting on the England shirt and playing.

"It's not a serious injury so I'm hopeful that it doesn't continue to linger on. I've been playing with it for the past couple of games and it's been hindering my performance.

"But I had a scan and I'm ready to go, I'm delighted the pain's not too bad and I'm looking forward to it."

again like gerrard i believe the club should have not released him for this. by sturridge's own admission he has been carrying an injury that has been hindering his performances for us.
we have a tight squad that cannot do without 2 of our best players.
was talking about gerrards jabs with a few mates the other day and it was said that no player will want to miss out on the W.C. it then shifted to how much commitment they will give in the run in to the season, especially in the last month. no one will want to pick up an injury that will rule them out. anyone who needs an operation will also push to get it early so they have time to recover.
if we are still pushing hard for C.L come next mar-apr, can we really rely on these 2 to give us 100% in everything ?
its amazing how many supporters can't acknowledge that players, especially their own, WANT to play for club and country. Especially in friendlies that lead up to selection to the pinnacle of world football.

No player will put club over country if it meant risking losing a World Cup squad place.

No player? Well that ***** bollox isn't it!

Name one.

by **supersub** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:44 am

jamiecarragher

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:09 am

supersub » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:44 am wrote:jamiecarragher

I was expecting that one but politely disagree.

If Carragher was not in a position where his England place, a few months prior to a world cup, was guaranteed and he needed to be present in a friendly for England to secure it. I don't accept that his main concern would be whether to play or not in case he was unfit for Liverpool a few days later. He would play.

by **Stu the Red** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:54 pm

SouthCoastShankly » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:30 am wrote:Name one.

Me...

There are quite a few players out there who aren't overly arsed about playing for England and see it as a chore. Granted most them can't get a game anyway :laugh:

But there alot of players over the years who've retired early to prolong a club career.

You made it sound as everyones dream is play for England, when it clearly isn't.

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:38 pm

Stu the Red » Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:54 pm wrote:
SouthCoastShankly » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:30 am wrote:Name one.

Me...

There are quite a few players out there who aren't overly arsed about playing for England and see it as a chore. Granted most them can't get a game anyway

But there alot of players over the years who've retired early to prolong a club career.

You made it sound as everyones dream is play for England, when it clearly isn't.

I give you that player retire to prolong a club career (for what it's worth I think Gerrard will retire from international football after the world cup) but for players who are not close to retirement I think the international game is a massive attraction. The exposure at a world level is potentially career changing. Numerous players hit the scene and got noticed at a Euro or world cup.

by **ycsatbjywtbiastkamb** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:41 pm

sturridge already missed pre season because of an injury he picked up playing for england, he couldnt train for 3 months because of that injury, and now they want to play him even though he has a knock?
infact because he hasnt had a pre season (thanks to england) he lacks general fitness so thats even more reason to be cautious with him.
i`m sorry but this club pays his wages and rodgers should recall him, if sturridge does the business in the prem he`ll be going the world cup anyway, it`s not as if england has a plethora of top quality strikers to replace him with. 2 goal a season danny welbeck will be going the world cup ffs, if he`s a shoe in for the squad then sturridge certainly is.
this is where the likes of ferguson came into his own, if sturridge was a united player under him do you think he`d be playing tonight?

by **Stu the Red** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:49 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:41 pm wrote:sturridge already missed pre season because of an injury he picked up playing for england, he couldnt train for 3 months because of that injury, and now they want to play him even though he has a knock?
infact because he hasnt had a pre season (thanks to england) he lacks general fitness so thats even more reason to be cautious with him.
i`m sorry but this club pays his wages and rodgers should recall him, if sturridge does the business in the prem he`ll be going the world cup anyway, it`s not as if england has a plethora of top quality strikers to replace him with. 2 goal a season danny welbeck will be going the world cup ffs, if he`s a shoe in for the squad then sturridge certainly is.
this is where the likes of ferguson came into his own, if sturridge was a united player under him do you think he`d be playing tonight?

Good post.

Can see why Sturridge would want to play as Welbeck has actually scored more for England than United, but Sturridge is scoring goals regularly in the league, where Welbeck isn't.

Rodgers needs to be stronger and far more ruthless in situations like this. If Sturridge was fully fit, its a different story all together. But the fact that three or four games this season he's played with a knock, and on the odd occassion its lead to him not being able to put a shift in basically means he should be using periods like this to sit on his ***** with his feet up and make sure he's fully fit for the most important game of the season next weekend.

Must admit, not happy with the management in this particular situation.

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:52 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:41 pm wrote:sturridge already missed pre season because of an injury he picked up playing for england, he couldnt train for 3 months because of that injury, and now they want to play him even though he has a knock?
infact because he hasnt had a pre season (thanks to england) he lacks general fitness so thats even more reason to be cautious with him.
i`m sorry but this club pays his wages and rodgers should recall him, if sturridge does the business in the prem he`ll be going the world cup anyway, it`s not as if england has a plethora of top quality strikers to replace him with. 2 goal a season danny welbeck will be going the world cup ffs, if he`s a shoe in for the squad then sturridge certainly is.
this is where the likes of ferguson came into his own, if sturridge was a united player under him do you think he`d be playing tonight?

The club get to review his injury, the fact he hasn't been recalled suggested he has recovered from the knock picked up against Fulham.

In terms of match fitness, if anything this game is perfect timing. He gets a semi-competitive run out prior to a big game on Saturday. The Germany game is going to be no more risk that a reserves game would present to him.

by **Stu the Red** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:19 pm

SouthCoastShankly » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:52 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:41 pm wrote:sturridge already missed pre season because of an injury he picked up playing for england, he couldnt train for 3 months because of that injury, and now they want to play him even though he has a knock?
infact because he hasnt had a pre season (thanks to england) he lacks general fitness so thats even more reason to be cautious with him.
i`m sorry but this club pays his wages and rodgers should recall him, if sturridge does the business in the prem he`ll be going the world cup anyway, it`s not as if england has a plethora of top quality strikers to replace him with. 2 goal a season danny welbeck will be going the world cup ffs, if he`s a shoe in for the squad then sturridge certainly is.
this is where the likes of ferguson came into his own, if sturridge was a united player under him do you think he`d be playing tonight?

The club get to review his injury, the fact he hasn't been recalled suggested he has recovered from the knock picked up against Fulham.

In terms of match fitness, if anything this game is perfect timing. He gets a semi-competitive run out prior to a big game on Saturday. The Germany game is going to be no more risk that a reserves game would present to him.

Don't buy that for a second. Had it been someone like the Norway then you may have had a point, but England v Germany?

I'd be very suprised if anyone was half arsed even if it is a friendly.

by **Ben Patrick** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:20 pm

Agree with you all. Sturridge and Gerrard shouldnt be playing. This is a fkin friendly and both will be clearly on the plane to rio. Rodgers should have said to both its not happening this friendly. Having said that ave done sturridge first goal now.

by **ycsatbjywtbiastkamb** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:35 pm

SouthCoastShankly » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:52 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:41 pm wrote:sturridge already missed pre season because of an injury he picked up playing for england, he couldnt train for 3 months because of that injury, and now they want to play him even though he has a knock?
infact because he hasnt had a pre season (thanks to england) he lacks general fitness so thats even more reason to be cautious with him.
i`m sorry but this club pays his wages and rodgers should recall him, if sturridge does the business in the prem he`ll be going the world cup anyway, it`s not as if england has a plethora of top quality strikers to replace him with. 2 goal a season danny welbeck will be going the world cup ffs, if he`s a shoe in for the squad then sturridge certainly is.
this is where the likes of ferguson came into his own, if sturridge was a united player under him do you think he`d be playing tonight?

The club get to review his injury, the fact he hasn't been recalled suggested he has recovered from the knock picked up against Fulham.

In terms of match fitness, if anything this game is perfect timing. He gets a semi-competitive run out prior to a big game on Saturday. The Germany game is going to be no more risk that a reserves game would present to him.

sturridge missed fridays game because in hodgsons words -` he was complaining about the injury`
hodgson explained that sturridge has had this injury for two and a half weeks but now its `no worse than it was when he last played for liverpool against fulham`.
oh thats all right then.
this is a ridiculous situation to find ourselves in, this everton match is a huge game for us, for the first time since 2008 we find ourselves near the top of the table in mid november and saturdays game is not only a derby (which is big enough in its own right) but also a top of the table clash. our good form this season has been built on the performances of our forwards but this week we wont get suarez back until thursday and sturridge is playing for england despite carrying a knock for near 3 weeks.
sturridge should have been at melwood recovering.
i wouldnt even mind if the england game was a qualifier but it`s a friendly.

by **supersub** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:38 pm

didn't paul scholes bin off england

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