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Postby devaney » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:25 am

Santa » Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:23 am wrote:So with the Red Sox having just won the World Series, will Fenway now back BR and invest heavily in the first XI during the next transfer window and sustain our charge up the table?


Let's hope they go for the double !!  Great to see them winning again as a company considering the view some supporters have of their ability.
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Postby jacdaniel » Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:11 am

Santa » Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:23 am wrote:So with the Red Sox having just won the World Series, will Fenway now back BR and invest heavily in the first XI during the next transfer window and sustain our charge up the table?


They may or may not invest heavily but it won't be because of the Red Sox.  Different businesses with different business plans / strategies.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:57 pm

The Red Sox victory has given the owners a bit more credibility and kudos.
Now they have to put their money where their mouth is re the regeneration of Anfield
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Postby Benny The Noon » Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:32 pm

The Red Sox winning has nothing to do with us - two entirely seperate groups. But well done on winning the rounders cup.

Maybe time to sort out us now by first getting rid of Ayre , then sorting out the ground and building a top squad. Until that starts happening then nothing has changed with them.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:50 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:The Red Sox winning has nothing to do with us - two entirely seperate groups. But well done on winning the rounders cup.

Maybe time to sort out us now by first getting rid of Ayre , then sorting out the ground and building a top squad. Until that starts happening then nothing has changed with them.


So the owners of LFC and BRS are not the same people?
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:14 am

Did someone say that ?
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Postby Thommo's perm » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:31 am

Benny The Noon » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:14 pm wrote:Did someone say that ?


I stated that the owners of the Red Sox had more credibility and kudos because the team that had finished bottom of the league last season won it this season.
They also have been criticised for their stewardship of LFC, with some even pointing that the Red Sox previous failure was an indiction of their incompetence and of them being the wrong people to be in charge of Liverpool.
You come on with a proper knob statement of them being two totally seperate groups (yet another example of your laser like powers of observation) totally missing the point that THE SAME Fu*king PEOPLE OWN THE TWO Fu*king CLUBS! Then you ramble on about Ian Ayre, who you seem to dislike, finishing off with one of your "factual" and "knowledgable" statements.
Read my post agan and come back with some sort of relevant and credible response please
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:44 am

They won a rounders comp in America - it's meaningless to the football world. It has nothing to do with what happens with us. They also own a newspaper and a Nascar team - both have nothing to do with us. I'm critical of their ownership because of what they have done with us - nothing to do with what happens with their Baseball team. It could possibly have given them credit and kudos in the baseball circles but it has zero impact on us - zero. Baseball and football are two entirely different sports run massively different. It's chalk and cheese - they know baseball, they don't know football. You can give them credit if you so wish - ill reserve it for when they actually achieve sustained success with us.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:35 pm

Benny The Noon » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:44 pm wrote:They won a rounders comp in America - it's meaningless to the football world. It has nothing to do with what happens with us. They also own a newspaper and a Nascar team - both have nothing to do with us. I'm critical of their ownership because of what they have done with us - nothing to do with what happens with their Baseball team. It could possibly have given them credit and kudos in the baseball circles but it has zero impact on us - zero. Baseball and football are two entirely different sports run massively different. It's chalk and cheese - they know baseball, they don't know football. You can give them credit if you so wish - ill reserve it for when they actually achieve sustained success with us.


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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:45 pm

So my original point still stands cheers ( same as a few others ) - the Red Sox winning the rounders comp means f*ck all to Liverpool FC. Well done Red Sox though.
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Postby devaney » Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:13 pm

BTN - Just out of curiosity is your stolen tag line supposed to apply to you or the people reading it  :laugh:

Do you understand one single thing about motivation? Does John Henry have anything to do with the Red Sox? How do you think he feels mentally about taking a bottom team last year to the top this year? Do you remember him talking about FSG having a winning mentality? That is vital in any group of companies. I will bet a pound to a penny that the Liverpool team will have been shown a video of the Red Sox celebrations and do you think that might just have some affect on the lads?
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Postby parchpea » Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:40 pm

Would imagine its easier to win a baseball championship in America as be surprised if its as competitive a market for players as football
where you are competing against teams all over Europe, a number of whom have superior resources and can offer better prospects than
Liverpool.

FSG have made steady progress here but there is still massive room for improvement off the field and certainly some of the staff who run
the club for them could and should be strengthened in my opinion.
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Postby Santa » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:51 pm

Benny, you dislike Fenway I get it -- NOW fukk off since you have nothing new to offer!
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:14 pm

devaney » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:13 pm wrote:BTN - Just out of curiosity is your stolen tag line supposed to apply to you or the people reading it  :laugh:

Do you understand one single thing about motivation? Does John Henry have anything to do with the Red Sox? How do you think he feels mentally about taking a bottom team last year to the top this year? Do you remember him talking about FSG having a winning mentality? That is vital in any group of companies. I will bet a pound to a penny that the Liverpool team will have been shown a video of the Red Sox celebrations and do you think that might just have some affect on the lads?


They have been here 3 years now - have heard them say many things, very little substance.

If Liverpool FC needs to see the Red Sox win a rounders game to motivate them then we have bigger problems. Why the hell would the players watch the Red Sox celebrate unless they have an interest in the game ? If the players want to see celebrations as motivation then they should watch videos of something more relevant - CL05 should be a start , even watch the celebration of the League Cup from two seasons ago.

When that "winning mentality" you say Henry talks about appears on this side of the Atlantic then maybe they can start to get some credit - until then it's just clutching straws just to find anyway to associate the Red Sox's winning a Baseball tournament to us , what next ? Do we celebrate if the New York Times wins paper of the year !
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Postby devaney » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:53 pm

By your response it would appear that as I suspected you know very little about motivation. You have such a bitter and twisted view of most things that it is very difficult to have a sensible discussion. Let's leave it at that because we will never agree.
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LFC €300m (€420m)
Everton +€33m (€211m)
Arsenal €557m (€853m)
Spurs €571m (€684m)
Chelsea €945m (€1051m)
Man City €370m (€1038m)
Man United €687m (€1240m)
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