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Thing is Hustler, you see it all in black and white. Not everyone is good enough for Barcelona. Even if they were, Barca can't sign everyone! We have a range we can work in, a wage structure, a transfer kitty. Neymar dosen't fit into that structure, whereas Couthino who does. He also has a lot of potential and an increasing market value.

Seriously, you are either a WUM or incredibly naive to the workings of the game you're discussing.

StuYesThatStu » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:00 pm wrote:

Benny The Noon » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:44 pm wrote:

devaney » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:00 am wrote:
"Do we really care what the media say ?  - Well you clearly did all summer long when you castigated Luis at every opportunity and insisted that he was an embarrassment to the club.Just how many times did you state that he would be sold to RM for £40/45m and that was your preferred option. And now at the very first opportunity you want him back in the side to thrash the team you loathe most. Even you must be able to see the irony in that. 

This is the reason I just cannot completely ignore you as much as I try.

And guess what if Luis does get into trouble you'll be back on here in seconds saying "I TOLD YOU SO"

What the f*ck are you dribbling about now !!

There is a slight difference between the media making up stuff and creating headlines and Suarez himself inviting the media to his house and then creating the headlines himself.

Yes I did want him sold but that doesn't mean I dont want him to play against the Mancs

Take your head out of your ***** for once and stop trying to create something out of nothing.

You wanted Suarez sold?

What f*cking planet are you from?

Yep I wanted the club to cash in on him and use the money to purchase some quality in areas where we lacked because I had enough of watching him drag our good name through the gutter and then treat the club and fans like ***** over the summer after they had stuck by him. And that opinion of him won't change because I believe he is incapable of behaving. He has form - lots of form.

StuYesThatStu » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:12 pm wrote:Is this still a Liverpool FC forum?

Liverpool fans used to speak sense...

Some of the cr*p on here the last few days is beyond words. Between Hustler being a complete know nothing tool, Benny wanting Suarez out, people telling me that our problems in games are down to Gerrard and that Lucas is better than him and hearing people bigging up Henderson, Sterling and one or two others I am starting to think the worlds gone insane.

Some of the stuff people are portraying as "true opinions" are the sort of things a manc will have banter with and say taking the *****... its beyond words, really!

I guess you can include yourself in that list with your opinion on Johnson.

woof woof ! » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:57 pm wrote:
Seems like Hustler 2 does want to be taken seriously.

Now Now. I didnt say that woof.

Benny The Noon » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:45 pm wrote:

StuYesThatStu » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:12 pm wrote:Is this still a Liverpool FC forum?

Liverpool fans used to speak sense...

Some of the cr*p on here the last few days is beyond words. Between Hustler being a complete know nothing tool, Benny wanting Suarez out, people telling me that our problems in games are down to Gerrard and that Lucas is better than him and hearing people bigging up Henderson, Sterling and one or two others I am starting to think the worlds gone insane.

Some of the stuff people are portraying as "true opinions" are the sort of things a manc will have banter with and say taking the *****... its beyond words, really!

I guess you can include yourself in that list with your opinion on Johnson.

BTN You just can't stop writing the same old tripe can you.Buy a new fkg record for gawds sake !! You say>Yep I wanted the club to cash in on him and use the money to purchase some quality in areas where we lacked because I had enough of watching him drag our good name through the gutter and then treat the club and fans like ***** over the summer after they had stuck by him. And that opinion of him won't change because I believe he is incapable of behaving. He has form - lots of form.

I find it staggering that a true supporter could keep on churning this stuff out almost everyday. BTN how you can have the audacity to suggest that Luis treated the fans like ***** when they stuck buy him - I SERIOUSLY HOPE THAT YOU ARE NOT INCLUDING YOURSELF AS A FAN THAT STUCK BY HIM - YOUR BEHAVIOUR WAS CONSIDERABLY WORSE THAN ANYTHING I HAVE HEARD FROM MATES WHO SUPPORT EVERTON AND MAN UNITED !! You seriously need to have a good look at yourself.

"Do we really care what the media say ? This was the question you asked. If we don't care what the media say then how could Suarez have possibly dragged the clubs name through the gutter. So-called fans like you do that everyday of their lives with all their constant moaning and whinging. 

Just out of curiosity what will you do in future when Suarez scores?

As for what Stu said about Johnson there is a difference between critical opinion and character assassination and that is something you fail to understand.

Christ give it a rest with your self righteous rubbish. Go back on holiday - the forum was better for it without having to deal with you telling people what they should and shouldn't do "bold letters and all"

When Suarez scores I will celebrate a Liverpool player scoring - I couldn't care less that it would be Suarez scoring - if you don't like that well tough Sh*t - deal with it. But give all the preaching a rest.

StuYesThatStu » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:12 pm wrote:Is this still a Liverpool FC forum?

Liverpool fans used to speak sense...

Some of the cr*p on here the last few days is beyond words. Between Hustler being a complete know nothing tool, Benny wanting Suarez out, people telling me that our problems in games are down to Gerrard and that Lucas is better than him and hearing people bigging up Henderson, Sterling and one or two others I am starting to think the worlds gone insane.

Some of the stuff people are portraying as "true opinions" are the sort of things a manc will have banter with and say taking the *****... its beyond words, really!

I was thinking of imparting the  wisdom that comes with age,in the naive belief it would prove beneficial in your eventual progression into maturity .
Then I thought ,why the fuck should I ? Its only more bollocks from Stu 

Benny The Noon » Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:57 pm wrote:Christ give it a rest with your self righteous rubbish. Go back on holiday - the forum was better for it without having to deal with you telling people what they should and shouldn't do "bold letters and all"

When Suarez scores I will celebrate a Liverpool player scoring - I couldn't care less that it would be Suarez scoring - if you don't like that well tough Sh*t - deal with it. But give all the preaching a rest.

6 minutes to respond.Your trolling standards never diminish. Just a shame that you have to resort to nothing but abuse. Once again you have successfully described your own key weakness - SELF RIGHTEOUS !!

You couldn't care less that it would be Suarez scoring      How can you have such a loathing for somebody and then join in celebrating their contribution towards the success of the team? Very strange but then that shouldn't surprise me. 

I'll stop the preaching as you ineptly call it when you start acting like a true supporter. Guess where at loggerheads then.

As much as I would like to continue annoying you I can't. I'm off for a few pints with the lads. Enjoy your evening on the computer.

I'm touched that you noticed that I have been away !!!

RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:14 pm wrote:

StuYesThatStu » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:12 pm wrote:Is this still a Liverpool FC forum?

Liverpool fans used to speak sense...

Some of the cr*p on here the last few days is beyond words. Between Hustler being a complete know nothing tool, Benny wanting Suarez out, people telling me that our problems in games are down to Gerrard and that Lucas is better than him and hearing people bigging up Henderson, Sterling and one or two others I am starting to think the worlds gone insane.

Some of the stuff people are portraying as "true opinions" are the sort of things a manc will have banter with and say taking the *****... its beyond words, really!

I was thinking of imparting the  wisdom that comes with age,in the naive belief it would prove beneficial in your eventual progression into maturity .
Then I thought ,why the fuck should I ? Its only more bollocks from Stu 

To be fair red, you don't often talk out of your hole... but on the Gerrard thing... What was the saying?

Get a clue then come back to us

devaney » Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:20 pm wrote:

Benny The Noon » Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:57 pm wrote:Christ give it a rest with your self righteous rubbish. Go back on holiday - the forum was better for it without having to deal with you telling people what they should and shouldn't do "bold letters and all"

When Suarez scores I will celebrate a Liverpool player scoring - I couldn't care less that it would be Suarez scoring - if you don't like that well tough Sh*t - deal with it. But give all the preaching a rest.

6 minutes to respond.Your trolling standards never diminish. Just a shame that you have to resort to nothing but abuse. Once again you have successfully described your own key weakness - SELF RIGHTEOUS !!

You couldn't care less that it would be Suarez scoring      How can you have such a loathing for somebody and then join in celebrating their contribution towards the success of the team? Very strange but then that shouldn't surprise me. 

I'll stop the preaching as you ineptly call it when you start acting like a true supporter. Guess where at loggerheads then.

As much as I would like to continue annoying you I can't. I'm off for a few pints with the lads. Enjoy your evening on the computer.

I'm touched that you noticed that I have been away !!!

I missed you even if Benny didn't

Rrrr thanks Stu.....

Luis Suarez: Have Liverpool missed the striker?
By Alistair Magowan BBC Sport

He has dominated headlines, courted controversy and seemed destined to leave the Premier League - but Liverpool striker Luis Suarez is back.

The 26-year old has been out of action since starting a 10-game suspension for biting Chelsea defender Branislav Ivanovic in April and is available to face Manchester United in the Capital One Cup on Wednesday.


But a week ago it appeared Brendan Rodgers's side had been coping just fine without the controversial Uruguayan: Liverpool were top of the Premier League with forwards Philippe Coutinho and Daniel Sturridge playing with distinction.

Indeed, statistics show that since Suarez joined the club in January 2011, Liverpool's win ratio drops from 61% when Suarez is on the sidelines to 39% when he is playing, and that Sturridge has a better strike-rate when he plays without the former Ajax forward.

The England man has scored 11 goals in 10 games since Suarez was banned for biting Chelsea's Ivanovic last season.

So have Liverpool missed him?

On the face of it, Wednesday's cup tie against Manchester United is a potentially fraught occasion for Suarez to make his comeback, given that he received an eight-match suspension and a £40,000 fine for racially abusing United defender Patrice Evra in 2011.

But a shoulder injury to Coutinho, suffered in the 2-2 draw with Swansea, and a first defeat of the season by Southampton last Saturday where the team lacked the Brazilian's creativity, has increased the chances of Suarez being handed an immediate return.

"If you look at the results, Liverpool haven't really missed him and that is a testament to Sturridge and Coutinho," former Reds forward Robbie Fowler told BBC Sport. "But that's the good thing about Liverpool, they have a world-class player waiting in the wings.

"It will be baptism of fire against United but I think Suarez wouldn't want it any other way."

Suarez ended last season with 30 goals in all competitions but after two bans and a summer where he made clear his desire to leave the club, Liverpool fans might have been forgiven for losing their patience with him.
Liverpool

And it has come at a time where Liverpool have shifted from a side reliant on Suarez's goals to one that can grind out results with a tight defence. Liverpool won each of their opening three league games 1-0, with Sturridge on the scoresheet each time.

That new-found resoluteness and a settled 4-2-3-1 formation may go some way to explaining why Liverpool have a lower win percentage with Suarez in the side than without him. Nine of the 18 Premier League games he has missed since joining the club in January 2011 have come during his recent ban.

His mantle as the team's most creative influence has also had competition from another diminutive South American - Coutinho.

And there are suggestions that the 21-year-old Brazilian is better at bringing the best out of Sturridge.

Coutinho leads the side for league assists since he joined the club in January and has set up more goals for Sturridge than any other player. In addition, Sturridge has scored nine goals in nine Premier League games without Suarez in the side compared to five in 10 when he has been played alongside him.

But Fowler believes that Rodgers will find room to accommodate both and give them licence to roam. Eventually he can see the Liverpool boss opting for a 4-3-3 formation with Suarez, Sturridge and Coutinho as a fearsome front trio or a 3-5-2 with Coutinho pushing on to help the other pair.

"Sturridge has been phenomenal and is a nailed-on starter but I don't think Suarez will play deeper behind him," Fowler said. "He will probably play up front, drifting towards the left or the right and the pair of them will change roles throughout a game because they want to be involved."
Suarez in numbers

Luis Suarez

30 goals in 44 appearances for Liverpool last season

Since joining from Ajax in January 2011 for £22.7m, Suarez has scored 51 in 96 appearances.

Scored 49 goals in 48 games for Ajax the season before joining Liverpool

Has scored 31 goals in 62 caps for Uruguay

Former Reds defender Mark Lawrenson added: "People keep saying to me 'where will Suarez play?'

"Well, he will play where he played when Liverpool signed Sturridge in January, which is coming in from the left as part of a front three.

"When Sturridge joined, Suarez was definitely the top man and scoring all sorts of goals. Brendan Rodgers moved things round, put Sturridge through the middle and asked Suarez to change his role a little bit and Suarez was happy with that. He just got on with it and looked an even better player for me."

"He just wants to play and he is a dangerous forward player wherever you put him in the Liverpool system."

Liverpool beat Manchester United 1-0 at Anfield earlier this month where lone striker Sturridge operated in front of three attackers - Iago Aspas, Coutinho and Jordan Henderson.

Since then, on-loan forward Victor Moses has joined from Chelsea and has also come into the reckoning to add to Liverpool's considerable options and Rodgers is known to allow his front players the fluidity of movement to express themselves.

"If you look at all the signings Rodgers has made, they all point in the right direction of the way he wants them to play and the belief of getting into those Champions League positions," Fowler said.

"The players are happy with the manager, they want to play for him, and I think you can see that on the pitch."

Many inside Anfield will hope that Suarez does not spoil that equilibrium and can give Liverpool the added boost, rather than the bite, that they need.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24198722

He's *****... sell him. We're better without him obviously.

We need more workman like average players with no ability. Great players like Suarez never win you anything.

What a random statement

And a week in football is a very long time !! The article is pointless. The fact that Liverpool FC lost 5 points out of 6 in the last week which the journalist chose to ignore is evidence of just how much Suarez was missed. As they say why let the facts get in the way of a good story. Those 5 lost points against very average opposition could be vital at the end of the season. OF COURSE HE HAS BEEN MISSED. Only an idiot would suggest that was not the case.