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TBH We sold Torres to Chelsea and yes I get Arsenal are our rivals for 4th place but I don't think our squad is anywhere close to pushing for top 4 as it stands, even with Suarez.

I just hope that the PL don't rule that we are obliged to sell for 40Mil. If we are going to sell to them then we need to rinse them for as much as possible.

I don't see that him whining to the UK press changes anything.

Whether he wants to go or not isn't the issue.  The issue is that no-one has bid anything close to his value and until they do, he can't leave.  Just because he wants to play CL doesn't mean we have to pi$$ away £10m of his value and let him leave for £40m.

As it was the case before this interview, as soon as someone bids something that starts with a 5 then, and only then, would be willing to listen to those offers.  I have no doubt he will leave, it is just a matter of getting a fair and acceptable fee for a player of his ability and track record.  Hopefully that will be from a club outside the EPL.  Rodgers has been quoted as saying we will not sell to Arsenal (he said an EPL rival, but he means them and their bids), and I hope we stand firm on that.

Costa looks lined up as his replacement, and if we sign him or similar and the Greek CB, we are better off letting Suarez go.

Ben Patrick » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:11 am wrote:If Suarez is telling the truth, which i highly doubt it.

It doesnt show the club to be amateurs. It shows his agent to be. If he was signing a new contract last summer and this agreement was supposedly made, then why wasnt a proper clause inserted in his contract ?

I think he is bullsh!tting and the club have handled a very difficult situation so far very very well.

I'm thinking Suarez's comments may stem from his interpretation of the reported verbal agreement that Suarez would be informed of bids over £40 million (and would be able to speak to other clubs ?), maybe he thinks we were agreeing to let him go for bid in excess of that figure, however I've not seen anything reported confirming that Liverpool have to sell him whatever the price.

Must admit, I'm hugely disappointed with Suarez's lack of allegiance to the club and it's fan's. I knew he was a bit of a mercenary but thought he had more class than what he's recently shown.

Not bothered if we keep him or sell him now but like others I think there's no way we should sell him to a premiership rival.

You really think that we stand firm and it will blow over ! This will not "blow over" - this isn't some minor incident

Suarez has made it clear as day now. He has hinted all summer long that he wants to leave and we have ignored - it's going to get worse now , he won't play for us again.

Imagine if what he said about the promises is true ! Shows the club management for a bunch of amateurs ( well they are anyway ) .

Last summer the club and owners ***** up - and we see the fall out right now and it will get worse.

Thankfully we have the wonderful leadership of Ian Ayre to guide us through. The clubs response should be amusing "head in the sand" whilst they save more money

If we manage to keep him, you really think in a world cup year he will refuse to play. Are you that naive? or stupid?

Maybe it won't blow over but most supporters completely back the club's stance and rightly so. The club is here to pursue it's ambitions not make individuals dreams come true. Suarez signed a contract, a commitment to play for the club for the duration of his contract. If he refuses to honour the contract he can be subject to internal misconduction charges, that will harm him financially not to mention make him unpalatable to prospective buyers.

Also I am not bothered in the slightest of his apparent verbal agreement, his verbal agreement meant nothing to Dalglish when he promised to shake Evra's hand. His record would be a barrister dream in court, his character profile would be torn apart.

We sell when we want to - when our own valuation is met and thereby supercedes any reasons not to sell him or when we deem him surplus to requirements.

Your agenda against the club and management (including Rodgers) is plain to see. Benny you're like a broken record, a Sh*t record no one wants to listen to.

Surely Bayern or Real would take him for 35Mil? I'm sure there are players in both those teams who could add value to our team and be used as makeweights.

tubby » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:55 pm wrote:Surely Bayern or Real would take him for 35Mil? I'm sure there are players in both those teams who could add value to our team and be used as makeweights.

cough cough Xabi Alonso and 35 mil would do nicely thanks

tubby » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:55 am wrote:Surely Bayern or Real would take him for 35Mil? I'm sure there are players in both those teams who could add value to our team and be used as makeweights.

£35 million, are we desperate for the money or something. ***** to that, £50 million or he gets to rot in the reserves. I think this has p1ssed henry off so despite Ayre being a bit of a useless c**t I think Henry will block any sale to Arsena, otherwsie he'll look like a bit of a fool.

BTW If there is soem kind of clause in the contract meaning we have to sell for £40 million then Ayre needs to get the sack, no ifs or buts.

Jamie Redknapp says it's time for want-away striker Luis Suarez to show more respect to Liverpool.

The Uruguayan, who was the subject of a £40million bid from Arsenal last month, appears keen to force through a move away from Anfield and on Wednesday morning he suggested an agreement was made last summer allowing him to leave if the club failed to qualify for the Champions League.

But Sky Sports expert Redknapp, who played for Liverpool from 1991 to 2001, is unimpressed with his attitude after Brendan Rodgers stuck by him after biting Chelsea's Branislav Ivanovic last season and predecessor Kenny Dalglish supported him through the Patrice Evra racism row.

And he says it disrespectful for Suarez to try to engineer a move to one of Liverpool's main rivals after giving him so much support during his two-and-a-half years in England.

Redknapp told Sky Sports: "My one question is why would Liverpool sell Suarez to Arsenal unless he forces the move through?

"I've heard that he is training poorly, he's not very happy and he's making his feelings known. I don't quite see why because Liverpool have looked after him and treated him unlike anyone else.


"Champions League football is always a good excuse - Fernando Torres used that as an excuse as well - and it all boils down to money.

"It's a sad situation given all the support they've given him. Kenny Dalglish pretty much lost his job for supporting Luis Suarez and Brendan Rodgers did it again with the biting incident.

"He should show more respect to the football club because they've protected him and gone beyond the call of duty in doing so.

"We'll have to wait and see where he ends up but I'd be surprised if they do sell him to Arsenal because they're rivals for the top four."

kazza » Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:20 pm wrote:Jamie Redknapp says it's time for want-away striker Luis Suarez to show more respect to Liverpool.

The Uruguayan, who was the subject of a £40million bid from Arsenal last month, appears keen to force through a move away from Anfield and on Wednesday morning he suggested an agreement was made last summer allowing him to leave if the club failed to qualify for the Champions League.

But Sky Sports expert Redknapp, who played for Liverpool from 1991 to 2001, is unimpressed with his attitude after Brendan Rodgers stuck by him after biting Chelsea's Branislav Ivanovic last season and predecessor Kenny Dalglish supported him through the Patrice Evra racism row.

And he says it disrespectful for Suarez to try to engineer a move to one of Liverpool's main rivals after giving him so much support during his two-and-a-half years in England.

Redknapp told Sky Sports: "My one question is why would Liverpool sell Suarez to Arsenal unless he forces the move through?

"I've heard that he is training poorly, he's not very happy and he's making his feelings known. I don't quite see why because Liverpool have looked after him and treated him unlike anyone else.


"Champions League football is always a good excuse - Fernando Torres used that as an excuse as well - and it all boils down to money.

"It's a sad situation given all the support they've given him. Kenny Dalglish pretty much lost his job for supporting Luis Suarez and Brendan Rodgers did it again with the biting incident.

"He should show more respect to the football club because they've protected him and gone beyond the call of duty in doing so.

"We'll have to wait and see where he ends up but I'd be surprised if they do sell him to Arsenal because they're rivals for the top four."

Training poorly   

Maybe he does need to go. He'll do the same to the next club so feck him.

woof woof ! » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:45 am wrote:

Ben Patrick » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:11 am wrote:If Suarez is telling the truth, which i highly doubt it.

It doesnt show the club to be amateurs. It shows his agent to be. If he was signing a new contract last summer and this agreement was supposedly made, then why wasnt a proper clause inserted in his contract ?

I think he is bullsh!tting and the club have handled a very difficult situation so far very very well.

I'm thinking Suarez's comments may stem from his interpretation of the reported verbal agreement that Suarez would be informed of bids over £40 million (and would be able to speak to other clubs ?), maybe he thinks we were agreeing to let him go for bid in excess of that figure, however I've not seen anything reported confirming that Liverpool have to sell him whatever the price.

Must admit, I'm hugely disappointed with Suarez's lack of allegiance to the club and it's fan's. I knew he was a bit of a mercenary but thought he had more class than what he's recently shown.

Not bothered if we keep him or sell him now but like others I think there's no way we should sell him to a premiership rival.

I hear what your saying about the interpretation Woof but honestly dont buy it.
I dont think the promise has ever been made.

And like I said in the previous post, if it has, it's Suarez's agent that hasnt got a clue what he is doing.
Who would advise their client to sign a new contract based on a gentlemans agreement in modern day football ?
Luis was under contract last summer so under no obliagtion to sign a new one, he probably got a hefty rise and that was it.

Like you have said Arsenal is a no go, it would be stupid to sell to them when we are attempting to nick their top 4 position.

The compromise would be selling to madrid or another european side but again I wouldnt allow him to leave on the cheap just because he wants to.
50 million or he stays should be what we are saying, and that's only to a side outside the prem.

Arsenal are smugly laughing at the chaos caused by their grimey bid. They have lost nothing by making their cut-price bid and gained everything.
Suarez is now turning on the club, disrupting the start to a new season. The press are having a field day at our expense, ctriicising Suarez, but at the same time taking the ***** out of the fan's and the club for foolishly supporting his antics of the last two seasons, pointing out how LFC has dropped from being a power in the game to a club that has become a consistent also-ran that cannot satisfy the ambitions of gifted footballers.
Irrespective of whether Suarez goes to Arsenal, they have already caused sufficient disruption to have enabled some points advantage by encouraging Suarez to drive a wedge of animosity between himself and the club that will ensure that he will never wear the Liver Bird again. it is hard to forsee any compromise where Suarez can stay at the club until any future transfer window and make any effective contribution. If Madrid do come in for him it will be with a ridiculous low bid in the knowledge that a sale abroad is more preferable to LFC than a move to a close rival. This is a win- win for Arsenal, they ensure that LFC lose an effective player and limit the amount of financial compensation, thus reducing our ability to compete next season.
It is hard to see anyway of any satisfactory resolution other than to sell to Arsenal for £40m. RM will only offer £20m if they make any offer. No other club seems interested. The only other option  is to have the legal position upheld, retain Suarez and let him fester in the reserves until he shows some form of remorse and/or sell him at the earliest opportunity, but again for a knock down price.

we pay this lad millions to play for us and this is what he does and how he treats us?

Political correctness and human rights are to blame, as is the constant need to stay within the lines of what is deemed 'decent behaviour'. The best place for Suarez right now is in our reserves, out of harms way. Our PR team needs to be publicly raising the question of what loyalty means. In a sensible world, the management would take the quote "I need to put my career first" and publicly shove it up his Arsene. The club comes first and the only damage Suarez can do in the reserves is to run down his contract. This would wreck the little sh*ts career, three years of non competitive football. See how he likes that. He would of course claim that this was a breach of his human rights.

If this dosent stop now, we could have another Bosman type thing going on. Someone needs to stand up to these players sooner or later. We should stomp on Suarez, Arsenal and this whole dirty affair and come out smelling of roses, paving the way to a better future in the game.

I hope the management have the balls to do what needs to be done. They're probably too "nice" though.

we've never needed Real Madrid any more than we do right now. We need them to come in with a £50m bid and this'll be over in an hour. Papers will be signed and before the inks dried Luis will be on a plane to Madrid.

laza » Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:09 pm wrote:

tubby » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:55 pm wrote:Surely Bayern or Real would take him for 35Mil? I'm sure there are players in both those teams who could add value to our team and be used as makeweights.

cough cough Xabi Alonso and 35 mil would do nicely thanks

Perfect