Liverpool FC Forum

Kenny Kan » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:11 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:03 pm wrote:

Kenny Kan » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:57 pm wrote:salt pinch:

From @MostarLFC timeline on twitter

A Journalist of Uruguay (@MartinCharquero) text a SMS for Luis Suarez: "Luis, are you reading newspapers?"

The answer was: "Yes, sometimes, and I laugh a lot about the things they invent. I'm a Liverpool player"

More of Luis: "I'm not stupid, I need to leave England. Here I can't live any more in a comfortably way."

"If i go to Arsenal nothing will change, and the fans of Liverpool will hate me"

"It's about leaving England or staying Liverpool, going to Arsenal is not a good choice"

good, hope that is true.
it`s best for both the club and the player that he leaves and goes abroad.

I thought that would bring your blood pressure down, so I posted that just for you. 

Does Luis know where Arsenal is?

I presume so, they reside in Woolwich don't they?

Kenny Kan » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:11 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:03 pm wrote:

Kenny Kan » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:57 pm wrote:salt pinch:

From @MostarLFC timeline on twitter

A Journalist of Uruguay (@MartinCharquero) text a SMS for Luis Suarez: "Luis, are you reading newspapers?"

The answer was: "Yes, sometimes, and I laugh a lot about the things they invent. I'm a Liverpool player"

More of Luis: "I'm not stupid, I need to leave England. Here I can't live any more in a comfortably way."

"If i go to Arsenal nothing will change, and the fans of Liverpool will hate me"

"It's about leaving England or staying Liverpool, going to Arsenal is not a good choice"

good, hope that is true.
it`s best for both the club and the player that he leaves and goes abroad.

I thought that would bring your blood pressure down, so I posted that just for you. 

nice one, it worked. 
believe me if there was someone in our management team that was at anfield in 1989 when thomas scored that last minute goal they wouldnt entertain the idea of selling them our best player either.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:48 pm wrote:

john craig » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:39 pm wrote:Suarez is a quality player but there is absolutely no doubt he has a screw loose.

We signed him for just over 20 mil, have got a couple of good seasons out of him and if we manage to sell him for around the 50 mil mark then adios amigo.  He doesn't want to be here and after his recent behaviour including his body language in the Melbourne game, I don't want him to be here either.  I have no confidence that he'll give us 100% if he stays and we'll probably see his value depreciate if we keep him. 

He lives in his own world where it's all about him - he didn't realise 'negrito' was offensive, he admits diving v Stoke and he describes biting Ivanovic as a reflex reaction.  That's not a fu.cking normal reaction where I'm from.  In the face of all this we still supported him. probably against our better judgement, because he wore the red shirt.  As far as I'm concerned he can fu.ck off now, the ungrateful little git.

First he wanted out because the bad press was affecting his family, but all of a sudden when Madrid don't come in for him he wants out because he wants CL.  And to boot he's willing to go to a club who don't really have any more ambition than us, they just have more consistency because a great manager has been there so long.

Best case scenario for me is Arsenal or whoever (I don't really care now) put in a 50 mil bid within the next week and he goes.  I trust Rodgers to reinvest wisely, he's not the naïve novice that some our fans regard him as.

And one last thing - if a player wants to go he wants to go, it's not that we as a club lack ambition.  FFS its not that long ago we spent 30 mil on a player, the fact he turned out average to cr.ap isn't the point.  Lets not kid ourselves that we'd never have sold a marquee player who wanted to go.... Keegan (Hamburg), Souness (Sampdoria) and Rush (Juve) were all sold at the peak of their powers during the glory days, it's not a modern phenomenon.

And if Suarez goes to Arsenal I'd fu.cking love to watch us knock them out of the top 4 and see him angling for a move to Madrid again next summer.  Bring it on.  YNWA

do you think arsenal would sell us wilshire or cazorla john? no me neither, so why should we sell them suarez?
why is it that out of all the high profile players in this country linked with a move (bale, rooney, suarez etc) that suarez looks like the one most likely to happen?
we are a selling club now imo, our owners like the idea of making big profits on players whoever they are.

The biggest difference is that since we aren't in the Cl playing in the biggest competitions which makes the very best players looking elsewhere more and are more open and vocal about it.
Wilshire and Cazorla isn't complaining cause they are a team in the CL. Todays players care only about here and now and about themsleves and not a flying **** about what happened 10 years ago or what will happen 10 years from now.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:03 pm wrote:

Kenny Kan » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:57 pm wrote:salt pinch:

From @MostarLFC timeline on twitter

A Journalist of Uruguay (@MartinCharquero) text a SMS for Luis Suarez: "Luis, are you reading newspapers?"

The answer was: "Yes, sometimes, and I laugh a lot about the things they invent. I'm a Liverpool player"

More of Luis: "I'm not stupid, I need to leave England. Here I can't live any more in a comfortably way."

"If i go to Arsenal nothing will change, and the fans of Liverpool will hate me"

"It's about leaving England or staying Liverpool, going to Arsenal is not a good choice"

good, hope that is true.
it`s best for both the club and the player that he leaves and goes abroad.

Jack Rollinson ‏@JackRollinson88 27m

@auxmanya91 @MostarLFC Total ***** mate, read his feed - an hour ago he told an AFC fan that he's going there.

Luis Suarez: What next for Arsenal, Liverpool & Real Madrid?
By Ben Smith BBC Sport

It does not take a great leap to imagine what Bill Shankly would have made of Luis Suarez's attempts to engineer a move away from Liverpool this summer.

After defeat by Arsenal in the 1971 FA Cup final Shankly stood on the steps of St George's Hall,  opposite Lime Street station, and told the 100,000 spellbound fans that stood before him that he had "drummed it into our players, time and again, that they are privileged to play for you".



It was a message echoed by Brendan Rodgers after Liverpool's 2-0 pre-season friendly victory against Melbourne Victory at the MCG on Wednesday.

Suarez owed the fans, he said. Suarez had a debt of gratitude to a city that has taken him in like a son and sheltered him as he served lengthy bans for racially abusing Patrice Evra and biting Branislav Ivanovic.

And yet the controversial Uruguayan remains intent on leaving Liverpool this summer, intent on walking away to join a club that can offer him Champions League football.

This transfer saga is delicately poised, a game of poker where all parties have shown their hands, but none yet know what it will take to win.

Arsenal's latest and highly specific offer of £40m plus £1 has established the pattern for the coming days and weeks. The world now knows that a clause exists in Suarez's contract that enables him to speak to any club who offer more than £40m. But it does not mean Liverpool have to sell.

All parties now have a number of options.

SUAREZ

The striker's demeanour during his brief cameo at the MCG did not reflect a man desperate to give his all for Liverpool. His failure to celebrate with his team-mates after he laid on Iago Aspas's late goal was instructive - this is a man who wants out.

Those close to Suarez insist one of the world's leading strikers deserves to be playing Champions League football, deserves better than to be finishing sixth, seventh and eighth in his three seasons at the club and deserves to be playing alongside the world's best players.

The Uruguayan's preference is still to join Real Madrid. And yet he will join Arsenal if the Spanish giants fail to follow up their interest with a firm bid. The ball is now back in Suarez's court and his next step to force the move is to hand in a formal transfer request, something he is considering.
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"I'm very disappointed from a Liverpool fan's point of view, in the way Luis Suarez has gone about things," former Liverpool striker John Aldridge told BBC Sport.

"He will sooner rather than later have to put in a transfer request to try to force the matter. I can't say I'm surprised because it seems the way modern day footballers go about their business. There's a massive lack of loyalty there, especially the way Liverpool have stuck by him."

That support has counted for something in Suarez's mind. But in the weeks after that bite, the Uruguayan began to consider his future in English football after being left "shocked and disappointed" by that lengthy ban. If he is to join Arsenal, rather than Real Madrid, Suarez's earlier statement that claimed the British media was forcing him out of England is likely to come back to haunt him.

Were Suarez to hand in a transfer request it would crank up the pressure on Liverpool, but the player would still have to wait for the clubs to agree a fee.

And if the clubs failed to agree a fee? Suarez faces the prospect of starting the season in the red of Liverpool. The 26-year-old found himself in a similar position at Groningen, his first European club. So angered was he by their failure to accept Ajax's bid for him that he took Groningen to court. The case ultimately collapsed but Suarez had pushed it to such an extent that the clubs eventually found a way to get the deal done.

Liverpool are, however, confident that Suarez will not go on strike with the World Cup finals looming next summer.

LIVERPOOL

The Anfield club's position is clear and transparent. They will not sell him unless they receive an offer of £50m plus.

They will also insist Suarez submits a formal transfer request before they allow him to move on, to reflect the fact the player is driving this transfer saga. But having said all that, Liverpool ultimately want to keep hold of Suarez. After all this is the man who has scored 51 goals in 96 games for Liverpool.


So unless they receive an offer that owners John W Henry and Tom Werner see as realistic, Suarez will stay and be given a chance to play as he has for the past two-and-a-half seasons.

The fans may find it a little harder to welcome him back with open arms. They will not boo him, but a bond has been broken - especially given his interest in joining Arsenal, a rival, rather than Real Madrid, which at least could be understood.

"There is no better football club in England than Liverpool," said former Liverpool manager Graeme Souness. "There is no better group of supporters than they have at Liverpool. For me - and I know I'm totally biased - but I go to these big modern stadiums throughout the country and Liverpool still generates the best atmosphere.

"I think the supporters are more understanding than anywhere else. For me he should stay at Liverpool and be a company man and try to get them into the Champions League. His goals would go a long way to helping them do that.

"I would fully understand it if Real Madrid came knocking and he really dug his heels in and said he's got to go because it's a chance to go back to a Latin country. Real Madrid are, right now, arguably the biggest club in the world and I could understand and live with that. But leaving Liverpool and going to another English team is not going to endear himself to any Liverpool supporter."

Were Liverpool to be forced into a sale, they would need to move quickly to find a replacement. There will be no repeat on the snap decision to replace Fernando Torres, who was sold to Chelsea for £50m, with £35m then spent on Newcastle United striker Andy Carroll.

ARSENAL

Arsenal have made a bold play, confident in the knowledge that Suarez wants to join them. And yet they now face the prospect of being able to agree a deal with Suarez but still need to up their offer by at least £10m to get their man.

It would mark the dawn of a new era at Arsenal, one that should return the Gunners as a financial power and one that could see them, as chief executive Ivan Gazidis promised, "competing with any club in the world" to sign the very best players.

When it comes to Suarez, Arsenal believe the game will change once the player tells Liverpool he wants to join them.

There is a hope that will increase the pressure on Liverpool, forcing them to accept a lower offer than they might otherwise, simply to get rid of a player who has made it so clear that he no longer wants to play for them. There are dangers for Arsenal too, however.

They may choose not to up their bid for Suarez, they may not feel there is value in paying £50m for the player. And even if they do decide to triple their transfer record, they are buying a player who comes with no shortage of baggage.

When Wenger has spent big in the past it has not always worked out. Jose Antonio Reyes and Andrey Arshavin failed to spark on a consistent basis. Arsenal will hope for better this time around.

The other potential scenario, one that Arsenal will try to put out of their mind, is that Real Madrid do finally declare their hand, leaving the North London club out in the cold having already decided to allow Gonzalo Higuain join Napoli and concentrate their efforts on Suarez.

REAL MADRID

There is interest but at this stage there is not yet a firm offer, not even a hint that one is close. And yet, Real are set to sell Higuain to Napoli and are now a striker short and £31m better off, although that does not necessarily mean that a bid for Suarez will follow.

In the past the Liverpool striker has admitted it "would be difficult to say no" to Madrid, but there are suggestions that some at the Bernabeu see Suarez's lack of experience in the Champions League as a problem, while others clam his off-field controversies have made it difficult for Real to sell Suarez to their sponsors and commercial partners. But until Suarez signs for another club, Real cannot be discounted.

John Aldridge on Luis Suarez

"The fans, the managers, his comrades, the hierarchy have been loyal to him and they've done everything in their powers possible to back him up, and he's basically put a custard pie in everyone's face.

"Liverpool deserve a little bit better and he's just thrown one excuse after another to try to force his way out of Liverpool.

"Everyone says the fans are fantastic and they've proved that with the way they have backed Luis, and he has treated them with contempt in his inconsistency with his talk, so yes I am very disappointed."

Ex-Liverpool striker John Aldridge on BBC Radio 5 live

No idea how credible this guy is but claims he heard this on Uruguay radio tonight. Think it's a wind up.

@MostarLFC LAST MOMENT: A Journalist of Uruguay (@MartinCharquero) text a SMS for Luis Suarez: "Luis, are you reading newspapers?"

@MostarLFC The answer was: "Yes, sometimes, and I laugh a lot about the things they invent. I'm a Liverpool player"

@MostarLFC More of Luis: "I'm not stupid, I need to leave England. Here I can't live any more in a comfortably way."

@MostarLFC "If i go to Arsenal nothing will change, and the fans of Liverpool will hate me"

@MostarLFC "It's about leaving England or staying Liverpool, going to Arsenal is not a good choice"

tubby » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:42 pm wrote:No idea how credible this guy is but claims he heard this on Uruguay radio tonight. Think it's a wind up.

@MostarLFC LAST MOMENT: A Journalist of Uruguay (@MartinCharquero) text a SMS for Luis Suarez: "Luis, are you reading newspapers?"

@MostarLFC The answer was: "Yes, sometimes, and I laugh a lot about the things they invent. I'm a Liverpool player"

@MostarLFC More of Luis: "I'm not stupid, I need to leave England. Here I can't live any more in a comfortably way."

@MostarLFC "If i go to Arsenal nothing will change, and the fans of Liverpool will hate me"

@MostarLFC "It's about leaving England or staying Liverpool, going to Arsenal is not a good choice"

Had a read through his timeline and it certainly doesn't seem a credible source - someone also mentioned that at one point he said Suarez was joining Arsenal.

If its credible it will be all over Sky and in our papers soon enough

tubby » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:42 pm wrote:No idea how credible this guy is but claims he heard this on Uruguay radio tonight. Think it's a wind up.

@MostarLFC LAST MOMENT: A Journalist of Uruguay (@MartinCharquero) text a SMS for Luis Suarez: "Luis, are you reading newspapers?"

@MostarLFC The answer was: "Yes, sometimes, and I laugh a lot about the things they invent. I'm a Liverpool player"

@MostarLFC More of Luis: "I'm not stupid, I need to leave England. Here I can't live any more in a comfortably way."

@MostarLFC "If i go to Arsenal nothing will change, and the fans of Liverpool will hate me"

@MostarLFC "It's about leaving England or staying Liverpool, going to Arsenal is not a good choice"

@LBCeleste: Must APOLOGIZE w BIG BIG LETTERS.  @MartinCharquero just told me the quotes are not true. I just removed them and plz do the same in ur end.

Suarez making a big mistake if he left Liverpool for Arsenal - Rodgers
The Reds boss has questioned why anyone would want to quit Anfield and move to the Emirates

Brendan Rofgers believes Luis Suarez would be making a big mistake if he left Liverpool to join Arsenal.

The Reds boss, who is battling to keep hold of the prolific Uruguay striker, has questioned why anyone would want to quit Anfield and move to the Emirates.

Liverpool rejected an improved offer of £40million plus £1 from Arsenal on Tuesday with Rodgers insisting that figure is “significantly” short of their valuation of last season's 30-goal top scorer.

Suarez, who arrived in Thailand with the squad yesterday, has been informed that Liverpool won't consider granting him a move until there is a bid on the table which represents his true value.

Arsenal can offer Champions League football but Rodgers is trying to convince Suarez to snub their interest.
The Northern Irishman expects Liverpool to be competing with the Londoners at the top end of the Premier League this season and desperately wants Suarez around to lead the charge.

He said: “I know what we are trying to build and grow, so why would you swap Liverpool to go to Arsenal?

“I am not sure that it adds up to be honest. Arsenal has a wonderful history in its own right, but Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world.

“Okay, we might not be in the Champions League and haven’t been for a while now, but our competitors have grown around us and we have to step up to the challenge now.

“Would it be a mistake for Luis to leave? 100%. The team was built around Luis last season.

“I made some big calls to get the team to work in a way to suit his strengths and it is no coincidence he had a great season apart from the end bit. We would love to have him to continue the next phase.”

Liverpool were given another warm reception on their arrival in Bangkok for the final leg of their pre-season tour. Suarez is expected to line up against Thailand on Sunday before the squad return to the UK.

“It is difficult for Luis, I understand that,” Rodgers said.

“If a team wants you, it can be difficult, but I am not sure many teams will have done what we have done in the last couple of games. I am sure Luis will have seen the sheer size and status of the club on this trip.

“But it is not something we want to run on too long. It is something that can’t run on too long.”

Rodgers refused to be drawn on whether Suarez submitting a transfer request would force Liverpool's hand.

However, the manager praised the club's principal owner John W Henry and chairman Tom Werner for their hardline stance throughout the summer-long saga.

“Luis is under contract so I haven’t even thought about that (a transfer request),” Rodgers said.
“If a player tells you he really wants to go then you have to look at it.

“But it is a situation we are in control of because he has three years left on his contract. Unless something changes or there is an offer which is heavily increased, he is still very much a Liverpool player.

“I can categorically say the owners have been brilliant throughout this process. The board and club has stayed very strong. It is very simple - we don’t want to sell one of our top players.

“We will continue to work on improving our squad rather than breaking it up.”


http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/brendan-rogers-believes-luis-suarez-5324895?

F**k Arsenal, f**k their club, f**k their coach and f**k their gimpy f**king fans.

How many trophies have they won in the last decade? Tell me how many? That's their ambition, right there...........

The roosters have certainly come home to roost!

This is what happens when our club starts slipping in the pecking order, no name clubs like these f**ktards circle in like vultures.

I can forgive Alonso for leaving, Mascherano as well. But Torres going to a soul-less plastic history-less club, was the last f**king straw.

We face oblivion now lads, plain and simple.

The fight to keep Suarez or least sell him to overseas club is our Armageddon, our last stand as a dying giant.

ANY fan that DOWN PLAYS this is deluded, I don't care what the Gooners bid, WE MUST NOT SELL HIM TO THEM UNDER NO CONDITIONS.

The only way we can get back on track is not STRENGTHING our f**king rivals.

Posters saying sell him for 50m and we will buy players better than him and beat Arsenal to 4th are in GAGA land...........we're tiny we're toony we're all a little f**king looney!

Let's not forget we are in the driver's seat, Suarez signed a 4 year deal with us. He is legally contracted to THAT and THAT alone. Grow some f**king balls lads and stop worrying about the "ifs", "but maybe" and "what happens if"

As for Suarez, let him be. If he wants to throw the toys out the pram let him, not our concern UNTIL he pushes it that way.

He doesn't go anywhere unless Faildrid or anyone from Europe comes in with over 50m bid. No bid, no f**king cheese. Put up, shut up and back on you're bike if you're not happy.

Finally this shouldn't be so much a debate "on how much more I hate Suarez" compared to you.

As I have posted time and time again, let's start asking the more poignant f**king questions.

Where is our club going with signing the likes of Aspas and Alberto? Look at the players the top 6 are involved with, rumoured with or sniffing around. Now compare that to our targets. 

No wonder the f**king vultures are circling..................

Arsenal have CL football Eds - thats why Suarez will go there if that is his only option - and currently they show more ambition than us

eds » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:39 am wrote:F**k Arsenal, f**k their club, f**k their coach and f**k their gimpy f**king fans.

How many trophies have they won in the last decade? Tell me how many? That's their ambition, right there...........

The roosters have certainly come home to roost!

This is what happens when our club starts slipping in the pecking order, no name clubs like these f**ktards circle in like vultures.

I can forgive Alonso for leaving, Mascherano as well. But Torres going to a soul-less plastic history-less club, was the last f**king straw.

We face oblivion now lads, plain and simple.

The fight to keep Suarez or least sell him to overseas club is our Armageddon, our last stand as a dying giant.

ANY fan that DOWN PLAYS this is deluded, I don't care what the Gooners bid, WE MUST NOT SELL HIM TO THEM UNDER NO CONDITIONS.

The only way we can get back on track is not STRENGTHING our f**king rivals.

Posters saying sell him for 50m and we will buy players better than him and beat Arsenal to 4th are in GAGA land...........we're tiny we're toony we're all a little f**king looney!

Let's not forget we are in the driver's seat, Suarez signed a 4 year deal with us. He is legally contracted to THAT and THAT alone. Grow some f**king balls lads and stop worrying about the "ifs", "but maybe" and "what happens if"

As for Suarez, let him be. If he wants to throw the toys out the pram let him, not our concern UNTIL he pushes it that way.

He doesn't go anywhere unless Faildrid or anyone from Europe comes in with over 50m bid. No bid, no f**king cheese. Put up, shut up and back on you're bike if you're not happy.

Finally this shouldn't be so much a debate "on how much more I hate Suarez" compared to you.

As I have posted time and time again, let's start asking the more poignant f**king questions.

Where is our club going with signing the likes of Aspas and Alberto? Look at the players the top 6 are involved with, rumoured with or sniffing around. Now compare that to our targets. 

No wonder the f**king vultures are circling..................

We would be feeding a feeder club if we sell to Arsenal.

I personally am done with him though. Keeping him will be nothing but trouble for the club both on & off the pitch.

Sell him to Madrid.

Personally If I were Real Madrid, I would be looking at spending 30 million or so on Rooney, rather than 50 million plus on Suarez... Rooney is a a *****, but he is less of a ***** it would seem than Suarez!

Benny The Noon » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:18 am wrote:Arsenal have CL football Eds - thats why Suarez will go there if that is his only option - and currently they show more ambition than us

I'll be as 'nice' and 'unabusive' as I can when speaking to you for this once...     Ar$nel ARE in the CL that much we can't deny but to keep harpin on about us having no ambition is just too disrespectful to let pass. Would you please stop ramming it into every thread that we have no ambition because it's really not true benny. the owners and manager and team are trying to work with what we have and get this club back on track, that alone is showing ambition.

So could you just do this one thing for everyone on here? we are really sick of hearing you spout this all the time

thank you