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Thommo's perm » Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:44 pm wrote:I dont know why Im surprised at the comments I heard this morning on sky regarding the disgraceful actions of referees towards Suarez
Firstly I heard "journalists" saying that Suarez will have to accept his unfair treatment because he has a "reputation". They went on to say basically he should just accept that this season is a write off as far as getting penalties is concerned, so biased are the referees against him.
Then I heard two ex players saying it was his own fault because of previous incidents and that he has to accept responsibilty for referees refusing to give him the most blatant of penalties.
WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FU'CK!!!???
Are we really living in a country where the people who are supposed to uphold the law simply refuse to acknowledge any wrongdoing and will not change their minds because they already have decided the outcome before it even happens?
Are these people not paid to make sure there is fairness and fair play and not be prejudiced or biased, but to protect and defend, and uphold justice?
The whole thing stinks of putrid sh'it and should be fought against by every supporter and anyone who cares about the game.

It's outrageous that so many people are accepting that referees aren't impartial

'It was a pen, but it was Suarez'

Load of sh!t

Thommo's perm » Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:44 pm wrote: I don't know why I'm surprised at the comments I heard this morning on sky regarding the disgraceful actions of referees towards Suarez
Firstly I heard "journalists" saying that Suarez will have to accept his unfair treatment because he has a "reputation". They went on to say basically he should just accept that this season is a write off as far as getting penalties is concerned, so biased are the referees against him.
Then I heard two ex players saying it was his own fault because of previous incidents and that he has to accept responsibilty for referees refusing to give him the most blatant of penalties.
WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FU'CK!!!???
Are we really living in a country where the people who are supposed to uphold the law simply refuse to acknowledge any wrongdoing and will not change their minds because they already have decided the outcome before it even happens?
Are these people not paid to make sure there is fairness and fair play and not be prejudiced or biased, but to protect and defend, and uphold justice?
The whole thing stinks of putrid sh'it and should be fought against by every supporter and anyone who cares about the game.

Totally agree with you thommo. What kind of ***** excuse they're giving. It's like " he made mistakes in the past , we should punish him for the rest of his life" .. How dumb and stupid would that be? If he's fouled, then give him justice.. Hypocrites!!!

The way the ref against liverpool was so bad that I wonder why no one has done anything. The FA and the ref are really damaging the game in general. There simply is no justice. Even in matters such as racism. lFC simply gets so one sided unfair treatment. Why terry gets 4games and suarez gets 8, where is the basis and why the differences in penalty? Why do we have to accept this even we did nothing wrong. Wtf is going on. Yes, we scored five but a foul is a foul. If the ref are so bad, how come they got it wrong time and time again against us only!!!! How could one not believe there simply is a hidden agenda. This is so fecking frustrating to watch as it is causing us the season. I strongly believe we should not take this load of crab and walk off the field once and for all. We played fair and we get penalized. And then they tell you to fecking accept this. If they see a dive then give that player a yellow card. But if it is a penalty, call it a penalty. We are not asking for any favor and just wanted it get called for what it is.  I'm just worry that the ref somehow was told not to call anything no matter what it is. Maybe the ref is worry they will get fired by Fergie if they don't screw us. Man, it is so frustrated and even though we won, I'm really afraid thing is not going to change.

It would be a start if "journalists" would get their thumbs from up each others ar'ses and each write a meaningful article about the disgrace that is going on right in front of their eyes. To pass it off as "oh well he'll just have to put up with it" is outrageous! What theyre saying is that the refs are usless and biased, i.e. corrupt because basically they are on the opponents side in not giving the decision to Suarez. The opposition benefits and therefore its cheating.
LFC should come out and say this publicly as well because if these cu'nts are right, Suarez might as well forget winning a penalty, even if he is hit with a baseball bat in the area.

I don't doubt the fact that Suarez wants to be at our club but I really doubt he will stand this sort of treatment in the long run. Awesome player and it's the EPL loss if he leaves. The way he plays is the sort of football that the EPL lacks in my opinion and I'm not talking about his past about going down to easy.

I was about to slap a fellow fan the other day that actually thought we should sell him because he ain't good enough and bring in a brittish striker.

I think Luis is the most fouled player inside the penalty area in Premier League, and there is a reason for that..it is safer to foul him then to let him in with a chance to score because the referees have secretly agreed to NOT award anything for us, especially if it is Luis involved.

The FA advocates Fair Play like it is a nice marketing punch line, to show as if they are serious about being fair to all...that's a load of b*llsh*t.

A point denied will end up costing the club a couple of millions at the end of the season, so all these biased decisions are worth big money to someone, somewhere!

I've gotta eat some humble pie here with regards to Suarez. However I still stand by my comments that he's the most frustrating player we've had since Luis Garcia. One game he's magic and the next one he's tragic, yet despite this there is no denying his talent, even if I was wrongly slating him to the hilt a few weeks ago.

Boxscarf » Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:33 pm wrote:I've gotta eat some humble pie here with regards to Suarez. However I still stand by my comments that he's the most frustrating player we've had since Luis Garcia. One game he's magic and the next one he's tragic, yet despite this there is no denying his talent, even if I was wrongly slating him to the hilt a few weeks ago.

Well said

the biggest BS is the talk that refs refused to give penalities to suarez becoz he has a reputation.
manyoo has 3 of the biggest divers in modern football in ronaldo, nani and ashley young and refs give them the important decisions.

Octsky » Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:43 pm wrote:the biggest BS is the talk that refs refused to give penalities to suarez becoz he has a reputation.
manyoo has 3 of the biggest divers in modern football in ronaldo, nani and ashley young and refs give them the important decisions.

That's what I've always felt, especially now where Young and Nani clearly always dive, yet they both get penalty and foul decision their way on a consistent basis, especially Young.  Kagawa took a couple blatant dives against spurs as well this weekend around and inside the box.  It's the same with Gareth Bale as well, as he's turned into a diver that gets players red cards instead of causing pens.

I don't see how refs don't treat most of the united squad like they treat Suarez.

Boxscarf » Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:33 pm wrote:I've gotta eat some humble pie here with regards to Suarez. However I still stand by my comments that he's the most frustrating player we've had since Luis Garcia. One game he's magic and the next one he's tragic, yet despite this there is no denying his talent, even if I was wrongly slating him to the hilt a few weeks ago.

No doubt about it.  I can really only think of maybe 3 or 4 games where he hasn't been magic to be honest since he's signed for us.  It's not that he's not consistently magic, because he is constantly getting in behind defenders and causing problems and creating chances from nothing every game.  The difference is that some games (unfortunately rarely) he plays like he did against Norwich, and nobody can stop him when he's like that.  But most days he misses everything that falls his way.  It's extremely frustrating, and to be honest I don't get excited when I see him get a clear chance anymore because I'm almost sure he'll miss.  The goals he does score come from nowhere and are usually really good hits.  If he could start putting those chances away, I think the top 4 wouldn't be a big ask at all, and he'd be the top scorer in the league by a country mile.  I'm not expecting he'll ever do that, but I do believe he could still be top scorer, and I do believe he could get a lot more consistent for us over the next couple seasons.

If we can bring in a striker to play in front of Suarez, one who can finish clear cut chances, then there will be less need to rely on Suarez to get amongst the goals on a majority basis. After all Luis was brought in to play behind Fernando Torres, he wasn't brought in to replace Torres and thus far we haven't replaced Torres.

Octsky » Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:43 am wrote:the biggest BS is the talk that refs refused to give penalities to suarez becoz he has a reputation.
manyoo has 3 of the biggest divers in modern football in ronaldo, nani and ashley young and refs give them the important decisions.

I think ronaldo now plays for Real Madrid mate, if he dives now and Man Utd get a peno then it's defo corrupt.

Honestly I can't remember the last time we had an important decision for us because of a dive by Suarez. Sure, he does go down too easy (or at least he used to), but we've never been given a pen or even a free kick in a dangerous area because of a dive by Suarez. It hasn't happen or I don't remember. On the other hand, Nani, Young, Drogba when he used to play, Bale dive all the time and are constantly given crucial decisions that give them a huge advantage (free kicks, penalties, yellow cards, red cards). You got to laugh at these refs man. It's so tragic it's funny.

Gary Neville made an interesting point on Skysports last season, that the reason a majority of players go down is they know that's the only real way of getting a spot kick. Take Yesil for example against West Brom, he stayed on his feet and got nothing, I bet you my entire savings that had he gone down he'd have gotten a decision from the referee. You can call it whatever you want, but that's the stark reality of it, Luis knows it, Young knows it, Drogba knows it, nearly every professional footballer knows it and that's why it's so frequent in the game. As for Luis he's been given a reputation rightly or wrongly by the two British Don Corleone's of English football in Mr Ferguson and Mr Moyes and as a result he's suffering from it, but you can argue that he's only got himself to blame.

Referee's need to start ignoring reputation and going for what they believe to be the right call - if they are unable to do so then the same technology that exists in Rugby Union should be brought into football. Penalties, freekicks, sendings off should all be subject to video replays, to ensure that teams aren't wronged unnecessarily and that fairness remains apart of football. So if Suarez goes down in the box, the referee can head over to the touchline, watch the incident from a multitude of differing angles, if it is clear that Suarez dived, then book the player, if not award the penalty and the time taken to reach the decision should be added on at the end of the half in stoppage time. It's the fairest system that could be introduced and the sooner it's introduced the better for the game.