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LFC fu'cked up by not asking JT how to get off with a racism charge
The man is a Fu*king genius!

Thommo's perm » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:37 pm wrote:LFC fu'cked up by not asking JT how to get off with a racism charge
The man is a Fu*king genius!

Maybe because he was innocent and Anton Ferdinand is a sh*t stirring moron?

Still I like how white people who make racist tweets on Twitter are discharged from the Army or sentenced to Prison, but Rio Ferdinand can call Ashley Cole a 'choc ice' which is a racist term and nothing is done about it.

It's bit like how Black nationalism and black pride is acceptable, but God forbid I walk outside with a White Pride t-shirt. And people wonder why Neo-Nazism is one the fast growing underground Political movements throughout Europe.

Thommo's perm » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:37 pm wrote:LFC fu'cked up by not asking JT how to get off with a racism charge
The man is a Fu*king genius!

not really, just highlights how much of a f**k up our manager and press officer made of the Suarez/Evra saga.  Chelsea have done a superb job of damage limitation and kept themselves out of the whole thing.

Boxscarf » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:12 pm wrote:

Thommo's perm » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:37 pm wrote:LFC fu'cked up by not asking JT how to get off with a racism charge
The man is a Fu*king genius!

Maybe because he was innocent and Anton Ferdinand is a sh*t stirring moron?

Still I like how white people who make racist tweets on Twitter are discharged from the Army or sentenced to Prison, but Rio Ferdinand can call Ashley Cole a 'choc ice' which is a racist term and nothing is done about it.

It's bit like how Black nationalism and black pride is acceptable, but God forbid I walk outside with a White Pride t-shirt. And people wonder why Neo-Nazism is one the fast growing underground Political movements throughout Europe.

Innocent of what? He admitted he said it and was videoed saying it. The reason he got off with it is because he said he was telling Ferdinand that he didnt call him a Fu*king black cu'nt!
Rio didnt call Cole a choc ice on twitter. Someone else did and he laughed.
Nationalism is a very dangerous thing to encourage because it can lead to atrocities like we saw under Hitler. I agree that anything which discriminates and excludes others shouldnt be allowed because it gives people ideas and sets one side against another.
The whole racism issue is fu'cked up in this country and the Suarez incident just shows how incompetent and unfair the whole system is

to be fair to luis although the whole thing was a PR disaster he did the right thing by working hard and letting his football do the talking. it`s easy to forget how much pressure he was under, especially when the likes of ferguson and even some politicians were saying he should be sacked by liverpool. he`s obviously a mentally strong individual who`s focussed on his footy.
he`s a great player.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:41 pm wrote:to be fair to luis although the whole thing was a PR disaster he did the right thing by working hard and letting his football do the talking. it`s easy to forget how much pressure he was under, especially when the likes of ferguson and even some politicians were saying he should be sacked by liverpool. he`s obviously a mentally strong individual who`s focussed on his footy.
he`s a great player.

really?  I seem to recall him being $*i*e for the most part and then making it 10 times worse by refusing to shake Evra's hand...

Boxscarf » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:12 pm wrote:

Thommo's perm » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:37 pm wrote:LFC fu'cked up by not asking JT how to get off with a racism charge
The man is a Fu*king genius!

Maybe because he was innocent and Anton Ferdinand is a sh*t stirring moron?

Still I like how white people who make racist tweets on Twitter are discharged from the Army or sentenced to Prison, but Rio Ferdinand can call Ashley Cole a 'choc ice' which is a racist term and nothing is done about it.

It's bit like how Black nationalism and black pride is acceptable, but God forbid I walk outside with a White Pride t-shirt. And people wonder why Neo-Nazism is one the fast growing underground Political movements throughout Europe.

Ferdinand is a moron because of what exactly ?!?

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:41 pm wrote:to be fair to luis although the whole thing was a PR disaster he did the right thing by working hard and letting his football do the talking. it`s easy to forget how much pressure he was under, especially when the likes of ferguson and even some politicians were saying he should be sacked by liverpool. he`s obviously a mentally strong individual who`s focussed on his footy.
he`s a great player.

7_Kewell » Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:49 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:41 pm wrote:to be fair to luis although the whole thing was a PR disaster he did the right thing by working hard and letting his football do the talking. it`s easy to forget how much pressure he was under, especially when the likes of ferguson and even some politicians were saying he should be sacked by liverpool. he`s obviously a mentally strong individual who`s focussed on his footy.
he`s a great player.

really?  I seem to recall him being $*i*e for the most part and then making it 10 times worse by refusing to shake Evra's hand...

well lets not go into the handshake thing, glenn johnson made it quite clear who he thought was at fault for the handshake not happening and i suspect he`s not the only one within the squad who thought luis got stitched up.
and i dont know where you are getting he was ***** from, that day the handshake didnt happen he was one of the few players that turned up, he scored our goal.
the game after that was the loss at anfield to arsenal were luis gave a masterclass, he hit the post and nearly scored goal of the season with a slalom run.
no one played well away at sunderland but the game after that was the derby at anfield where gerrard got the goals but suarez and carroll were the ones who ran everton ragged. then he scored at wigan, took the pi$$ at norwich with a hat trick and a goal of the season contender, scored our equaliser in the biggest derby game in a quarter of a century at wembley and took the pi$$ out of chelsea at anfield.
he finished the season with 17 goals in all competitions and considering the sh*t he took and considering he missed 9 games which in league terms equates to nearly quarter of a season i think thats a good return.
he`s a great player.

Boxscarf » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:12 pm wrote:

Thommo's perm » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:37 pm wrote:LFC fu'cked up by not asking JT how to get off with a racism charge
The man is a Fu*king genius!

Maybe because he was innocent and Anton Ferdinand is a sh*t stirring moron?

Still I like how white people who make racist tweets on Twitter are discharged from the Army or sentenced to Prison, but Rio Ferdinand can call Ashley Cole a 'choc ice' which is a racist term and nothing is done about it.

It's bit like how Black nationalism and black pride is acceptable, but God forbid I walk outside with a White Pride t-shirt. And people wonder why Neo-Nazism is one the fast growing underground Political movements throughout Europe.

I spend 20mins trying to think of how to explain to you the incomprehensible ignorance of this statement but then it dawned on me that Id be wasting my time. Neo-nazism isnt growing because of black pride, womans rights or the pink pound - its because a minority of uneducated or misguided people still think that they are superior to every one else. Take the time to read up on the last 400 years of world history then maybe you'd better grasp why so many cultures/minorities/women choose to celebrate their heritage and independence, in a nutshell its because our ancestors spent centuries trying to destroy it.

7_Kewell » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:49 am wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:41 pm wrote:to be fair to luis although the whole thing was a PR disaster he did the right thing by working hard and letting his football do the talking. it`s easy to forget how much pressure he was under, especially when the likes of ferguson and even some politicians were saying he should be sacked by liverpool. he`s obviously a mentally strong individual who`s focussed on his footy.
he`s a great player.

really?  I seem to recall him being $*i*e for the most part and then making it 10 times worse by refusing to shake Evra's hand...

I think you're in a small group that feels that way Kewell...  At least a small group who are Liverpool fans.  Sounds like the Sh*t you hear on united forums.

burjennio » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:36 pm wrote:

Boxscarf » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:12 pm wrote:

Thommo's perm » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:37 pm wrote:LFC fu'cked up by not asking JT how to get off with a racism charge
The man is a Fu*king genius!

Maybe because he was innocent and Anton Ferdinand is a sh*t stirring moron?

Still I like how white people who make racist tweets on Twitter are discharged from the Army or sentenced to Prison, but Rio Ferdinand can call Ashley Cole a 'choc ice' which is a racist term and nothing is done about it.

It's bit like how Black nationalism and black pride is acceptable, but God forbid I walk outside with a White Pride t-shirt. And people wonder why Neo-Nazism is one the fast growing underground Political movements throughout Europe.

I spend 20mins trying to think of how to explain to you the incomprehensible ignorance of this statement but then it dawned on me that Id be wasting my time. Neo-nazism isnt growing because of black pride, womans rights or the pink pound - its because a minority of uneducated or misguided people still think that they are superior to every one else. Take the time to read up on the last 400 years of world history then maybe you'd better grasp why so many cultures/minorities/women choose to celebrate their heritage and independence, in a nutshell its because our ancestors spent centuries trying to destroy it.

ethanr » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:42 pm wrote:

7_Kewell » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:49 am wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:41 pm wrote:to be fair to luis although the whole thing was a PR disaster he did the right thing by working hard and letting his football do the talking. it`s easy to forget how much pressure he was under, especially when the likes of ferguson and even some politicians were saying he should be sacked by liverpool. he`s obviously a mentally strong individual who`s focussed on his footy.
he`s a great player.

really?  I seem to recall him being $*i*e for the most part and then making it 10 times worse by refusing to shake Evra's hand...

I think you're in a small group that feels that way Kewell...  At least a small group who are Liverpool fans.  Sounds like the Sh*t you hear on united forums.

pretend that Suarez transformed into a goal scoring machine if you want, but it's a FACT that his form tumbled in the 2nd half of the season. Hopefully, with the mess behind him, he will be back to normal.

But pretending that he was a goal scoring machine after the Evra situation is plain wrong.  He was cack, just like the rest of our team last season.

Boxscarf » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:12 pm wrote:

Thommo's perm » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:37 pm wrote:LFC fu'cked up by not asking JT how to get off with a racism charge
The man is a Fu*king genius!

Maybe because he was innocent and Anton Ferdinand is a sh*t stirring moron?

Still I like how white people who make racist tweets on Twitter are discharged from the Army or sentenced to Prison, but Rio Ferdinand can call Ashley Cole a 'choc ice' which is a racist term and nothing is done about it.

It's bit like how Black nationalism and black pride is acceptable, but God forbid I walk outside with a White Pride t-shirt. And people wonder why Neo-Nazism is one the fast growing underground Political movements throughout Europe.

Right wing fascist groups are gathering a bit of momentum in Europe because of the EU and the EZ's austerity measures on them, Greece for example. They offer their country back to them with autonomy, independence and identity once more rather than having the Europhiles dissolving their countries national identity.

Secondly, open border policy the EU has implemented also aids right wing fascist groups' political aims, to give locals back there jobs etc, whether this is propaganda or not is a different debate.

It's not to do with race (mainly) why these fascist groups appear to be gathering momentum, more because of economic pressures that have been implemented on them by the technocrats from Brussels.

I do agree with your black pride assertion, no matter what our ancestors did 400 years ago, today we strive for equality no matter colour or creed. Yet, true equality doesn't happen if one group of people are being discriminated against for having pride in their race, culture and nation. These whites that do this are being discriminated against and being labelled racist, by the left, academics, political correctness think tanks and the likes, they have ensured the best we to take on discrimination against 'minority' races is to use the very thing they supposedly abhor and implement it within society, to somehow balance out the status-quo amongst different groups of people. They use discrimination to fight discrimination - which is the wrong way of striving for total equality.

7_Kewell » Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:49 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:41 pm wrote:to be fair to luis although the whole thing was a PR disaster he did the right thing by working hard and letting his football do the talking. it`s easy to forget how much pressure he was under, especially when the likes of ferguson and even some politicians were saying he should be sacked by liverpool. he`s obviously a mentally strong individual who`s focussed on his footy.
he`s a great player.

really?  I seem to recall him being $*i*e for the most part and then making it 10 times worse by refusing to shake Evra's hand...

That is one of the wierdest and most foolish things Ive seen on here