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by **Reg** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:34 pm

lakes10 wrote:Former Liverpool defender Alan Hansen said on the BBC's Match of the Day: "The rhetoric from both clubs before the game was restraint. Liverpool said there would be a handshake, so for Suarez to snub Evra is totally unacceptable. Liverpool have given Suarez total support through thick and thin and I think he's let Kenny down, he's let the club down and he's let himself down."

I share that view.

by **tubby** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:39 pm

He is a livewire alright but we knew that when we signed him did we not? The biting incident, the handball at the WC, but people didn't really notice as whilst he was scoring he was pretty well behaved. I think someone like Luis is only behaved when he is enjoying his football. Assuming he doesn't get a further ban I think he will soon be back to his best.

Don't think we should sell him though, he has a lot of tooth about him (no pun intended) and that's something we have missed for a while. If anything id sell Carroll and get someone else who can play along side Suarez.

by **RedAnt** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:39 pm

Reg wrote:No mate, its fairly obvious he's unstable. Ask the lad who had half his head bit off. If you watch his games, the constant moaning, mini tantrums in front of referee and linesman, he's begging or a card the whole time. He doesn't seem to understand how to conduct himself to gain respect and support from officials. Ever see michael own acting like that?

I understand what you're saying, but Saurez isn't Owen. Saurez is ..well, Saurez. All things have negatives and positives, and usually a positive is a direct "symptom" of a negative. We can only have the good from Saurez if we take this firey and controversial temprament too. We can't have it both ways. You want to cut our losses on him which is fair enough, but i'm definately in the other camp.

by **RedAnt** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:44 pm

tubby wrote:He is a livewire alright but we knew that when we signed him did we not? The biting incident, the handball at the WC, but people didn't really notice as whilst he was scoring he was pretty well behaved. I think someone like Luis is only behaved when he is enjoying his football. Assuming he doesn't get a further ban I think he will soon be back to his best.

Don't think we should sell him though, he has a lot of tooth about him (no pun intended) and that's something we have missed for a while. If anything id sell Carroll and get someone else who can play along side Suarez.

Agreed. Luis is our new Grobbelaar or Titi Camara. We've not had a player like that in a long time. And look at Saurez...he's not a bad man. He looks a genuinely nice person with a smile on his face. He loves our club too. His Facebook page shows that. His coming to us was the start of a big adventure he was very excited about. It's all going a bit pear shaped ain't it?

by **7_Kewell** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:54 pm

supersub wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:Some of us are sick and tired of our club’s name being dragged through the mud....and for what? Suarez's ego trip? If he was so innocent, why didn't the club appeal against his ban?
The rose tined brigade can pretend all they like that Suarez went to shake Evra’s hand, but the fact is he blanked him and walked on by. That, in my view, was a huge mistake.

Combine that with the fact that Kenny has (throughout this sorry saga) dissolved himself of any responsibility and you’ve got one f**king, festering mess. There’s no leadership, no moral guidance and no f**king clue form our management or player.

Right or wrong, he should have shaken his hand and moved on. Instead we’re back to f**king square one and LFC is being called a racist football club by the entire world.

you are a disgrace

Great response :laugh:

I stand by my comment and a host of former Liverpool players have come out today saying similar things, Suarez has let us down and the fact that Kenny pretended he DIDNT KNOW anything about the handshake incident was another appalling incident. Either Kenny has been hugely naive or (if he didn’t know) he’s been lied to by his players....either way it’s a bad run of events.
But hey, it’s one big conspiracy, right?

:laugh:

by **woof woof !** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:56 pm

Reg wrote:No mate, its fairly obvious he's unstable. Ask the lad who had half his head bit off.

Why let the facts spoil a good smear story hey Reg.

Can clearly see it wasn't half his head, it was just the top bit.

And Suarez did apologise.

:nod

by **RedAnt** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:58 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
Reg wrote:No mate, its fairly obvious he's unstable. Ask the lad who had half his head bit off.

Why let the facts spoil a good smear story hey Reg.

Can clearly see it wasn't half his head, it was just the top bit.

And Suarez did apologise.

Yeah, "biting half his head off" really is blowing the whole thing out of proportion isn't it? Thank God we don't normally exagerate! We'd be in a right sh*tstorm.

Oh..wait.... :cool:

by **devaney** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:00 pm

Reg. I know what you are saying but Bellamy was exactly the same in his younger days. He is now a calmed down version. If Luis is such a time bomb why didn't he smack Evra at the end of the game during his somewhat pathetic post match celebrations. I'm not sure anybody would have blamed him if he had.There is a list of players that I would get rid of before Luis.I know he whinges and moans but that is his style which I accept can be tedious but just how much real trouble other than the Evra saga has he been involved in? The finger at Fulham fans was as a result of the Evra issues.I'm not saying he's an angel but I can understand why he didn't shake the hand of an individual who has caused him massive personal problems by overly exaggerating an on the field spat! You'll be asking for the Giggs brothers to kiss and make up next.The hand shake is supposed to indicate respect for your opponent.How can Suarez possibly have any respect for Evra?

by **7_Kewell** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:02 pm

devaney wrote:Reg. I know what you are saying but Bellamy was exactly the same in his younger days. He is now a calmed down version. If Luis is such a time bomb why didn't he smack Evra at the end of the game during his somewhat pathetic post match celebrations. I'm not sure anybody would have blamed him if he had.There is a list of players that I would get rid of before Luis.I know he whinges and moans but that is his style which I accept can be tedious but just how much real trouble other than the Evra saga has he been involved in? The finger at Fulham fans was as a result of the Evra issues.I'm not saying he's an angel but I can understand why he didn't shake the hand of an individual who has caused him massive personal problems by overly exaggerating an on the field spat! You'll be asking for the Giggs brothers to kiss and make up next.The hand shake is supposed to indicate respect for your opponent.How can Suarez possibly have any respect for Evra?

but WHY invite more bad press? Why force the club to ensure more weeks of being labelled a racist club by the media?

THe reaction from the press was predictable....so the mature thing for Suarez to do was rise above it...shake the guys hand and move on.

by **devaney** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:04 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
supersub wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:Some of us are sick and tired of our club’s name being dragged through the mud....and for what? Suarez's ego trip? If he was so innocent, why didn't the club appeal against his ban?
The rose tined brigade can pretend all they like that Suarez went to shake Evra’s hand, but the fact is he blanked him and walked on by. That, in my view, was a huge mistake.

Combine that with the fact that Kenny has (throughout this sorry saga) dissolved himself of any responsibility and you’ve got one f**king, festering mess. There’s no leadership, no moral guidance and no f**king clue form our management or player.

Right or wrong, he should have shaken his hand and moved on. Instead we’re back to f**king square one and LFC is being called a racist football club by the entire world.

you are a disgrace

Great response

I stand by my comment and a host of former Liverpool players have come out today saying similar things, Suarez has let us down and the fact that Kenny pretended he DIDNT KNOW anything about the handshake incident was another appalling incident. Either Kenny has been hugely naive or (if he didn’t know) he’s been lied to by his players....either way it’s a bad run of events.
But hey, it’s one big conspiracy, right?

The time for the hand shake was a long time ago but you are totally incapable of seeing that. Fk it I can't be bothered reading anymore of your complete and utter dross! I'm off to the pub !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :devil:

by **worcester_red** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:07 pm

supersub wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:Some of us are sick and tired of our club’s name being dragged through the mud....and for what? Suarez's ego trip? If he was so innocent, why didn't the club appeal against his ban?
The rose tined brigade can pretend all they like that Suarez went to shake Evra’s hand, but the fact is he blanked him and walked on by. That, in my view, was a huge mistake.

Combine that with the fact that Kenny has (throughout this sorry saga) dissolved himself of any responsibility and you’ve got one f**king, festering mess. There’s no leadership, no moral guidance and no f**king clue form our management or player.

Right or wrong, he should have shaken his hand and moved on. Instead we’re back to f**king square one and LFC is being called a racist football club by the entire world.

you are a disgrace

why? Are you saying that this is not a complete bloody mess, have you read today's papers? Our club is being vilified and has been turned into a laughing stock all because one ignorant little Uruguayan pr1ck refused to shake someone's hand after promising Kenny he would.

by **7_Kewell** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:10 pm

worcester_red wrote:
supersub wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:Some of us are sick and tired of our club’s name being dragged through the mud....and for what? Suarez's ego trip? If he was so innocent, why didn't the club appeal against his ban?
The rose tined brigade can pretend all they like that Suarez went to shake Evra’s hand, but the fact is he blanked him and walked on by. That, in my view, was a huge mistake.

Combine that with the fact that Kenny has (throughout this sorry saga) dissolved himself of any responsibility and you’ve got one f**king, festering mess. There’s no leadership, no moral guidance and no f**king clue form our management or player.

Right or wrong, he should have shaken his hand and moved on. Instead we’re back to f**king square one and LFC is being called a racist football club by the entire world.

you are a disgrace

why? Are you saying that this is not a complete bloody mess, have you read today's papers? Our club is being vilified and has been turned into a laughing stock all because one ignorant little Uruguayan pr1ck refused to shake someone's hand after promising Kenny he would.

It’s all a conspiracy, apparently.
Roy Keane was hiding behind the grassy knoll and started it all.

by **devaney** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:10 pm

worcester_red wrote:
supersub wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:Some of us are sick and tired of our club’s name being dragged through the mud....and for what? Suarez's ego trip? If he was so innocent, why didn't the club appeal against his ban?
The rose tined brigade can pretend all they like that Suarez went to shake Evra’s hand, but the fact is he blanked him and walked on by. That, in my view, was a huge mistake.

Combine that with the fact that Kenny has (throughout this sorry saga) dissolved himself of any responsibility and you’ve got one f**king, festering mess. There’s no leadership, no moral guidance and no f**king clue form our management or player.

Right or wrong, he should have shaken his hand and moved on. Instead we’re back to f**king square one and LFC is being called a racist football club by the entire world.

you are a disgrace

why? Are you saying that this is not a complete bloody mess, have you read today's papers? Our club is being vilified and has been turned into a laughing stock all because one ignorant little Uruguayan pr1ck refused to shake someone's hand after promising Kenny he would.

I think you are qualified to recognise ignorant pr.icks !! To add further substance to your qualification please read you own posts!

Now I'm going to the pub!

by **RedAnt** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:12 pm

worcester_red wrote:
supersub wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:Some of us are sick and tired of our club’s name being dragged through the mud....and for what? Suarez's ego trip? If he was so innocent, why didn't the club appeal against his ban?
The rose tined brigade can pretend all they like that Suarez went to shake Evra’s hand, but the fact is he blanked him and walked on by. That, in my view, was a huge mistake.

Combine that with the fact that Kenny has (throughout this sorry saga) dissolved himself of any responsibility and you’ve got one f**king, festering mess. There’s no leadership, no moral guidance and no f**king clue form our management or player.

Right or wrong, he should have shaken his hand and moved on. Instead we’re back to f**king square one and LFC is being called a racist football club by the entire world.

you are a disgrace

why? Are you saying that this is not a complete bloody mess, have you read today's papers? Our club is being vilified and has been turned into a laughing stock all because one ignorant little Uruguayan pr1ck refused to shake someone's hand after promising Kenny he would.

Dude, i'm not sure i've ever read anything by you that actually supports our club and players.

by **worcester_red** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:48 pm

RedAnt wrote:
worcester_red wrote:
supersub wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:Some of us are sick and tired of our club’s name being dragged through the mud....and for what? Suarez's ego trip? If he was so innocent, why didn't the club appeal against his ban?
The rose tined brigade can pretend all they like that Suarez went to shake Evra’s hand, but the fact is he blanked him and walked on by. That, in my view, was a huge mistake.

Combine that with the fact that Kenny has (throughout this sorry saga) dissolved himself of any responsibility and you’ve got one f**king, festering mess. There’s no leadership, no moral guidance and no f**king clue form our management or player.

Right or wrong, he should have shaken his hand and moved on. Instead we’re back to f**king square one and LFC is being called a racist football club by the entire world.

you are a disgrace

why? Are you saying that this is not a complete bloody mess, have you read today's papers? Our club is being vilified and has been turned into a laughing stock all because one ignorant little Uruguayan pr1ck refused to shake someone's hand after promising Kenny he would.

Dude, i'm not sure i've ever read anything by you that actually supports our club and players.

Well I'm not sure I've ever read anything form you which strayed to far from the flock mentality, try coming up with an original thought once in a while.

I always support the club but when I see weak links I expose them, i.e I don't just blindly support all the players like you do. I imagine that you also supported Hicks and Gillett when they were in charge, seeing as you find it so hard to separate club and individual.

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