Luis Suarez signs for Barcelona
by Kharhaz » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:16 pm
Thats a clever statement by the club. What they will be waiting for now is the John Terry conclusion. If the FA do nothing regarding that case then all hell will break loose. And I would expect the club to do something about the unfairness and treatment of not only Suarez but the club as well. The FA HAVE to act against Terry because of how Suarez was treated.
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by 7_Kewell » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:25 pm
im sure he'll cope and come back stronger.
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by maguskwt » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:16 pm
Good statement by LFC. Included everything that we've been highlighting of what is so wrong about the report.
We move on. Fair enough. Now please get a striker in... we now look like the team that played with Neil Mellor as our striker back in 2004...
We move on. Fair enough. Now please get a striker in... we now look like the team that played with Neil Mellor as our striker back in 2004...
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by Cool Hand Luke » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:17 am
Redman in wales wrote:He misses:
3 Jan 2012 Manchester City (A) FA Premier League
6 Jan 2012 Oldham (H) FA Cup
11 Jan 2012 Manchester City (A) Carling Cup
14 Jan 2012 Stoke City (H) FA Premier League
21 Jan 2012 Bolton (A) FA Premier League
25 Jan 2012 Manchester City (H) Carling Cup
31 Jan 2012 Wolves (A) FA Premier League
6 Feb 2012 Tottenham (H) FA Premier League
A replay against Oldham would mean he’d be able to play against Spurs
FA Cup 4th round is in January so if we beat Oldham he’ll be back for the Tottenham game.
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by Reg » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:16 am
There are greater underlying problems, he needs to take the opportunity to sort his head out if he's to stay with LFC and in the PL long term. Spend a few weeks with Rushie I'd say and go visit Rafa for a cuppa.
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by Kharhaz » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:26 am
Hypocrisy at its best.
EDIT: This guy is still working for them.
EDIT: This guy is still working for them.
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by metalhead » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:37 am
Transcript of Kenny Dalglish's press conference about Luis Suárez
After the 3-0 defeat at Manchester City Liverpool's manager defended the statements put out earlier by the club and the Uruguayan player over his eight-match FA ban
The following is a transcript from the Liverpool press conference after the Anfield club's 3-0 defeat at Manchester City on Tuesday night:
Reporter: "Kenny, the wider world is pretty shocked that, if a player can call someone 'negro' and the player who is the victim in this takes offence, that there is no apology or contrition offered from your club."
Dalglish: "I would have thought that, if you pronounced the word properly, you maybe understand it better. I think it was Spanish he was speaking and I don't think you were speaking Spanish there."
Reporter: "OK, if a player calls someone 'negro' [Spanish pronunciation], surely the player who takes offence deserves an apology?"
Dalglish: "Ask a linguistic expert, which certainly I am not. They will tell you that the part of the country in Uruguay where he [Luis Suárez] comes from, it is perfectly acceptable. His wife calls him that and I don't think he is offended by her. We have made a statement and I think it is there for everybody to read. Luis has made a brilliant statement and we will stand by him."
Reporter: "But the FA verdict said it was 'simply incredible' to suggest it wasn't used in an offensive way when they were clearly arguing and it wasn't friendly."
Dalglish: "There's a lot of things we'd like to say and a lot we could say but we would only get ourselves in trouble. We are not trying to be evasive … well, we are being evasive because we don't like getting ourselves in trouble. But we know what has gone on. We know what is not in the report and that's important for us. So without me getting ourselves in trouble, I think that's it finished."
Reporter: "Why take the ban now and not play the next three games, including the Carling Cup semi-final against Manchester City?"
Dalglish: "He could have played for a fortnight but he has to serve eight games at some stage and this time is as good as any, isn't it? It was better to get the situation over and done with."
Reporter: "Mark Lawrenson was saying on the radio that you've got to fear now whether Suárez may feel unsettled playing in England. Is that a concern?"
Dalglish: "Because Mark Lawrenson said it? No. I don't see why we have to reply to anybody. If you're asking if I have any concern about Luis playing in England, then no."
Reporter: "Is he strong enough?"
Dalglish: "I don't have a problem with Luis playing in England."
Reporter: "Do you regret wearing the T-shirts?"
Dalglish: "You see, if one of you guys were in trouble, would you help him? Would you support him if you knew the truth and you knew it was right? Would you support him?"
Reporter: "But not with T-shirts when he has been found guilty …"
Dalglish: "Why not? If they want to show their support for their team-mate, what's wrong with that? It was a fabulous statement to make visually of their support for a guy who is endeared in the dressing room, one of their closest friends in the dressing room, and all of his friends in the dressing room can speak up adequately and perfectly well for him. And I think it is very dangerous and unfortunate that you don't actually know the whole content of what went on at the hearing. I'm not prepared, and I can't say it, but I am just saying it is really unfortunate you never got to hear it. That's all I'm saying."
Reporter: "Kenny, given how the wider public are so opposed to your view, what do you have to lose by telling us and revealing what you're saying was not included in the FA statement?"
Dalglish: "It's up to the club to decide what they want to do."
Reporter: "But if you have something to say, surely say it – because the alternative is you are digging a bigger hole for yourself?"
Dalglish: "I don't think we are digging a bigger hole but I just think it's unfortunate we can't be more forthcoming. That's the unfortunate thing."
Reporter: "In your two statements you basically accused the FA of a conspiracy against your club."
Dalglish: "So they have made a statement then …"
Liverpool press officer intervenes and asks for no more questions on Suárez.
Reporter: "The hearing was to lay out all the evidence, 115 pages of evidence, and you have said they [the FA] have done it subjectively. So why do you think the FA are targeting Liverpool and Suárez?"
Dalglish: "Maybe wrong place, wrong time. It could have been anybody. I can't answer for the FA, you ask them."
Reporter: "You think there is an agenda against Liverpool?"
Dalglish: "No. You said that. I never. You get yourself in trouble, I'm all right."
Reporter: "Are you concerned Suárez's first game back could be at Old Trafford?"
Dalglish: "I'll just be delighted to get him back."
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Clearly unhappy with the FA and journos
After the 3-0 defeat at Manchester City Liverpool's manager defended the statements put out earlier by the club and the Uruguayan player over his eight-match FA ban
The following is a transcript from the Liverpool press conference after the Anfield club's 3-0 defeat at Manchester City on Tuesday night:
Reporter: "Kenny, the wider world is pretty shocked that, if a player can call someone 'negro' and the player who is the victim in this takes offence, that there is no apology or contrition offered from your club."
Dalglish: "I would have thought that, if you pronounced the word properly, you maybe understand it better. I think it was Spanish he was speaking and I don't think you were speaking Spanish there."
Reporter: "OK, if a player calls someone 'negro' [Spanish pronunciation], surely the player who takes offence deserves an apology?"
Dalglish: "Ask a linguistic expert, which certainly I am not. They will tell you that the part of the country in Uruguay where he [Luis Suárez] comes from, it is perfectly acceptable. His wife calls him that and I don't think he is offended by her. We have made a statement and I think it is there for everybody to read. Luis has made a brilliant statement and we will stand by him."
Reporter: "But the FA verdict said it was 'simply incredible' to suggest it wasn't used in an offensive way when they were clearly arguing and it wasn't friendly."
Dalglish: "There's a lot of things we'd like to say and a lot we could say but we would only get ourselves in trouble. We are not trying to be evasive … well, we are being evasive because we don't like getting ourselves in trouble. But we know what has gone on. We know what is not in the report and that's important for us. So without me getting ourselves in trouble, I think that's it finished."
Reporter: "Why take the ban now and not play the next three games, including the Carling Cup semi-final against Manchester City?"
Dalglish: "He could have played for a fortnight but he has to serve eight games at some stage and this time is as good as any, isn't it? It was better to get the situation over and done with."
Reporter: "Mark Lawrenson was saying on the radio that you've got to fear now whether Suárez may feel unsettled playing in England. Is that a concern?"
Dalglish: "Because Mark Lawrenson said it? No. I don't see why we have to reply to anybody. If you're asking if I have any concern about Luis playing in England, then no."
Reporter: "Is he strong enough?"
Dalglish: "I don't have a problem with Luis playing in England."
Reporter: "Do you regret wearing the T-shirts?"
Dalglish: "You see, if one of you guys were in trouble, would you help him? Would you support him if you knew the truth and you knew it was right? Would you support him?"
Reporter: "But not with T-shirts when he has been found guilty …"
Dalglish: "Why not? If they want to show their support for their team-mate, what's wrong with that? It was a fabulous statement to make visually of their support for a guy who is endeared in the dressing room, one of their closest friends in the dressing room, and all of his friends in the dressing room can speak up adequately and perfectly well for him. And I think it is very dangerous and unfortunate that you don't actually know the whole content of what went on at the hearing. I'm not prepared, and I can't say it, but I am just saying it is really unfortunate you never got to hear it. That's all I'm saying."
Reporter: "Kenny, given how the wider public are so opposed to your view, what do you have to lose by telling us and revealing what you're saying was not included in the FA statement?"
Dalglish: "It's up to the club to decide what they want to do."
Reporter: "But if you have something to say, surely say it – because the alternative is you are digging a bigger hole for yourself?"
Dalglish: "I don't think we are digging a bigger hole but I just think it's unfortunate we can't be more forthcoming. That's the unfortunate thing."
Reporter: "In your two statements you basically accused the FA of a conspiracy against your club."
Dalglish: "So they have made a statement then …"
Liverpool press officer intervenes and asks for no more questions on Suárez.
Reporter: "The hearing was to lay out all the evidence, 115 pages of evidence, and you have said they [the FA] have done it subjectively. So why do you think the FA are targeting Liverpool and Suárez?"
Dalglish: "Maybe wrong place, wrong time. It could have been anybody. I can't answer for the FA, you ask them."
Reporter: "You think there is an agenda against Liverpool?"
Dalglish: "No. You said that. I never. You get yourself in trouble, I'm all right."
Reporter: "Are you concerned Suárez's first game back could be at Old Trafford?"
Dalglish: "I'll just be delighted to get him back."
Source
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Clearly unhappy with the FA and journos
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by metalhead » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:44 am
Sorry still seems to be the hardest word for Liverpool in Luis Suarez affair
By Henry Winter
7:00AM GMT 04 Jan 2012
Liverpool sensibly decided to stop walking alone on Tuesday. They stepped back in from the cold, rejoining the footballing community but further remedial work is required and sorry still seems to be the hardest word.
Kenny Dalglish and the club have done the right thing, electing not to appeal against Luis Suárez’s eight-game ban for racially abusing Patrice Evra, the real victim in all this. There was little chance of winning any reprieve for their Uruguayan for directing the word “negro” at Evra.
Liverpool must move on, also moving to improve relations with United. Make no mistake: the Suárez case has highlighted and heightened the tension between England’s greatest two clubs. Tasteless chants from both sides’ supports have been going on for too long.
Rivalry is healthy but hatred embarrasses both Old Trafford and Anfield. It’s undignifying for teams who have contributed so much glory and entertainment to English and European football.
Both Dalglish and Sir Alex Ferguson must urge their fans to show some restraint, working in tandem to lower the temperature.
The mercury will soar next month. When Suárez returns, whether against Spurs or United, he will be vilified. Manchester City fans chanted “where’s your racist gone” during Tuesday night’s game with Liverpool at the Etihad. United supporters have certainly built up a caustic song list, judging by recent matches.
Amid the tribalism tainting English football there will be fears of Suárez being driven out of the game in this country, although there can be little sympathy. Evra is the one who has suffered.
Yet Suárez and Dalglish are close and the striker sounded more passionately embedded in Anfield than ever, thanking everyone at the club and saying that he now “understood more than ever what ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone’ means”.
Uruguayan flags were held aloft by Liverpool fans at the Etihad. Suárez’s name was sung. The final chapter in this unpleasant saga has yet to be reached.
Suárez reiterated his “cultural differences” defence, observing that “in my country, ‘negro’ is a word we use commonly, a word which doesn’t show any lack of respect and is even less so a form of racist abuse”. Yet the reality remains that this is English football, that the word “negro” is utterly unacceptable. Even one mention is one too many.
He needs to analyse his situation more deeply. He needs to apologise to Evra, however much he may be enraged by some of the Frenchman’s comments at Anfield on Oct 15 and in front of the independent regulatory commission. Suárez has been involved in past anti-racism campaigns and he needs to immerse himself in them again.
On a day of uncompromising statements from Merseyside, Liverpool’s continued vocal support reflects Suárez’s popularity at the club, his importance to their trophy aims and Anfield’s lingering resentment over the perceived injustice. Liverpool refused to go quietly.
They accused the FA of deliberately constructing “a highly subjective case”, damaging “the reputation of one of the Premier League’s best players”, and questioned the panel’s independence. They assailed Evra’s credibility and, most provocatively, suggested this case created a “template” on how to get a rivals’ star banned.
The polemic was toxic. Liverpool’s feelings towards the FA are clearly riddled with contempt. That is all very well, and may make Liverpool feel good in the short term, but such emotions are of little use to them in the long run. Liverpool now need to work hard on finding influence within the governing body.
They must recruit a senior executive with experience of dealing with officialdom, also of presenting the club in a better light. Isolationism is pointless.
United boast David Gill on the FA board, allowing them to read more swiftly and accurately the governing body’s fluctuating mood on certain issues. The FA’s mood on racism, particularly in the wake of Sepp Blatter’s laughable comments, was rightly condemnatory.
Eight games in Purdah reflected that zero tolerance. A tariff has now been set for racist comments, and the FA must adhere to it, being consistent. Liverpool will be watching.
Anfield’s statement on Tuesday stirred discomfort in many quarters, not least because of the absence of any apology, but it was designed for domestic consumption, for Kopites and for Suárez himself. The first half of the statement was borne of the club’s anger yet the second half contained some pertinent points.
The club sought to broaden the debate about racism. “English football has led the world in welcoming all nationalities and creeds into its Premier League and its leagues below,’’ read the missile of a missive from Anfield, “and Liverpool Football Club itself has been a leader in taking a progressive stance on issues of race and inclusion.”
Good. Now Liverpool must reaffirm such a stance by highlighting their work promoting diversity. Liverpool also urged all parties “to work together to stamp out racism in every form both inside and outside the sport”. A joint initiative with United would be a start. Over to you, Kenny and Sir Alex.
Source
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Luis Suárez’s eight-game ban for racially abusing Patrice Evra, the real victim in all this.
Evra is the one who has suffered.
By Henry Winter
7:00AM GMT 04 Jan 2012
Liverpool sensibly decided to stop walking alone on Tuesday. They stepped back in from the cold, rejoining the footballing community but further remedial work is required and sorry still seems to be the hardest word.
Kenny Dalglish and the club have done the right thing, electing not to appeal against Luis Suárez’s eight-game ban for racially abusing Patrice Evra, the real victim in all this. There was little chance of winning any reprieve for their Uruguayan for directing the word “negro” at Evra.
Liverpool must move on, also moving to improve relations with United. Make no mistake: the Suárez case has highlighted and heightened the tension between England’s greatest two clubs. Tasteless chants from both sides’ supports have been going on for too long.
Rivalry is healthy but hatred embarrasses both Old Trafford and Anfield. It’s undignifying for teams who have contributed so much glory and entertainment to English and European football.
Both Dalglish and Sir Alex Ferguson must urge their fans to show some restraint, working in tandem to lower the temperature.
The mercury will soar next month. When Suárez returns, whether against Spurs or United, he will be vilified. Manchester City fans chanted “where’s your racist gone” during Tuesday night’s game with Liverpool at the Etihad. United supporters have certainly built up a caustic song list, judging by recent matches.
Amid the tribalism tainting English football there will be fears of Suárez being driven out of the game in this country, although there can be little sympathy. Evra is the one who has suffered.
Yet Suárez and Dalglish are close and the striker sounded more passionately embedded in Anfield than ever, thanking everyone at the club and saying that he now “understood more than ever what ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone’ means”.
Uruguayan flags were held aloft by Liverpool fans at the Etihad. Suárez’s name was sung. The final chapter in this unpleasant saga has yet to be reached.
Suárez reiterated his “cultural differences” defence, observing that “in my country, ‘negro’ is a word we use commonly, a word which doesn’t show any lack of respect and is even less so a form of racist abuse”. Yet the reality remains that this is English football, that the word “negro” is utterly unacceptable. Even one mention is one too many.
He needs to analyse his situation more deeply. He needs to apologise to Evra, however much he may be enraged by some of the Frenchman’s comments at Anfield on Oct 15 and in front of the independent regulatory commission. Suárez has been involved in past anti-racism campaigns and he needs to immerse himself in them again.
On a day of uncompromising statements from Merseyside, Liverpool’s continued vocal support reflects Suárez’s popularity at the club, his importance to their trophy aims and Anfield’s lingering resentment over the perceived injustice. Liverpool refused to go quietly.
They accused the FA of deliberately constructing “a highly subjective case”, damaging “the reputation of one of the Premier League’s best players”, and questioned the panel’s independence. They assailed Evra’s credibility and, most provocatively, suggested this case created a “template” on how to get a rivals’ star banned.
The polemic was toxic. Liverpool’s feelings towards the FA are clearly riddled with contempt. That is all very well, and may make Liverpool feel good in the short term, but such emotions are of little use to them in the long run. Liverpool now need to work hard on finding influence within the governing body.
They must recruit a senior executive with experience of dealing with officialdom, also of presenting the club in a better light. Isolationism is pointless.
United boast David Gill on the FA board, allowing them to read more swiftly and accurately the governing body’s fluctuating mood on certain issues. The FA’s mood on racism, particularly in the wake of Sepp Blatter’s laughable comments, was rightly condemnatory.
Eight games in Purdah reflected that zero tolerance. A tariff has now been set for racist comments, and the FA must adhere to it, being consistent. Liverpool will be watching.
Anfield’s statement on Tuesday stirred discomfort in many quarters, not least because of the absence of any apology, but it was designed for domestic consumption, for Kopites and for Suárez himself. The first half of the statement was borne of the club’s anger yet the second half contained some pertinent points.
The club sought to broaden the debate about racism. “English football has led the world in welcoming all nationalities and creeds into its Premier League and its leagues below,’’ read the missile of a missive from Anfield, “and Liverpool Football Club itself has been a leader in taking a progressive stance on issues of race and inclusion.”
Good. Now Liverpool must reaffirm such a stance by highlighting their work promoting diversity. Liverpool also urged all parties “to work together to stamp out racism in every form both inside and outside the sport”. A joint initiative with United would be a start. Over to you, Kenny and Sir Alex.
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Luis Suárez’s eight-game ban for racially abusing Patrice Evra, the real victim in all this.
Evra is the one who has suffered.
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by Thommo's perm » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:19 pm
Reg wrote:Ferguson's greatest victory over Liverpool.
True
But he got his eye wiped last night and lets hope that citys victory last night gives them the points to finish above that cu'nt
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by Kukilon » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:04 pm
Thommo's perm wrote:Reg wrote:Ferguson's greatest victory over Liverpool.
True
But he got his eye wiped last night and lets hope that citys victory last night gives them the points to finish above that cu'nt
I hope they finish on the same amount of points and that city beats them on goal difference because of the 3 goals they scored against us.
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by Thommo's perm » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:13 pm
Kukilon wrote:Thommo's perm wrote:Reg wrote:Ferguson's greatest victory over Liverpool.
True
But he got his eye wiped last night and lets hope that citys victory last night gives them the points to finish above that cu'nt
I hope they finish on the same amount of points and that city beats them on goal difference because of the 3 goals they scored against us.
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by damjan193 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:00 pm
I just can't read this 
anymore man. I just can't hear about how poor Evra suffered because of the remarks made from the mean racist Suarez, supported by his racist club Liverpool (they're making the whole club racist man!). It just hurts me so much to read such absurd things and it hurts me even more that we can't do anything about it.
anymore man. I just can't hear about how poor Evra suffered because of the remarks made from the mean racist Suarez, supported by his racist club Liverpool (they're making the whole club racist man!). It just hurts me so much to read such absurd things and it hurts me even more that we can't do anything about it.- damjan193
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by red till i die!! » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:03 pm
the abuse he will suffer when he returns will be unbelievable and he will get it everywhere he plays.
i just hope he has a hard neck on him to take it and replys with goals to silence them.
i just hope he has a hard neck on him to take it and replys with goals to silence them.
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by metalhead » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:06 pm
Its a shame that our very own journos like Tony Barrett and Tony Evans did not give a bit of support.
What about the owners? they seem to have went quite for a while and we haven't heard a word on what they think about this
What about the owners? they seem to have went quite for a while and we haven't heard a word on what they think about this
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