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bigmick wrote:Also, I'm encouraged by Roy trying to move Lucas out to West Ham. He worked thatone out pretty sharpish.

TarnRed wrote:Rocky.



That shows exactly what you know about Meireles, ziltch, nada, zero. In future please either know something about the player in question or don't even engage in any sort of discussion.

He can't be that bad a player Rocky. Jose Mourinho signed tha lad for FC Porto, and he even tried to take him to Inter only for the deal to collapse due to Quaresma backing out of returning to FC Porto.

bigmick wrote:In all seriousness he's going to need to be a good deal better than Aquilani, because quite simply the Italian was a fairly big distance away from being what was required. Aquilani certainly had some ability, but his influence upon games was minimal for much of their passage. I know someone will quote me his "assists against relegated teams" stats, but I don't need those to tell me a player doesn't cut it.

We essentially had to carry Aquilani for the whole match in the hope he might cross it at some point and someone might score from it. There's assists and there's assists, and we didn't see much of the game breaking pass from Aquilani which split a defence wide open and put the striker in one on one. We didn't see mazy dribbles where three defenders were committed before the ball was slipped off to a waiting predator. And we didn't see the fabled long shooting, either to score goals or to cause goals to be scored. What we basically got was a player who probably spent the least amount of time in possession of the football of ay Liverpool player I can remember. Each time he got it you would have thought the ball was an unexploded bomb, or the defenders were suicide bombers so keen was he to offload it to the nearest and easiest red shirt.

So the Portuguese lad has got to contribute much much more than that. My guess is that he'll get up and down, and I also have a feeling that he will play alongside Poulsen with Gerrard ahead of them when we play our best team. I am unconvinced by either Cole in the hole or by Jovanovic anywhere (I think he's a poor player TBH based on what we've seen so far) and have a feeling as the season progresses we'll see Cole employed left side. Hopefully Moriaeles can provide the link between our back five (with Poulsen) and our front two. It was too easy to cut our best two players off when we had the axis, and I'm very confident that our new central midfielders will provide much more than our old ones did. To this end, I don't think we'll overly miss Masherano. Also, I'm encouraged by Roy trying to move Lucas out to West Ham. He worked thatone out pretty sharpish.

rocky29 wrote:

TarnRed wrote:Rocky.



That shows exactly what you know about Meireles, ziltch, nada, zero. In future please either know something about the player in question or don't even engage in any sort of discussion.

He can't be that bad a player Rocky. Jose Mourinho signed tha lad for FC Porto, and he even tried to take him to Inter only for the deal to collapse due to Quaresma backing out of returning to FC Porto.

excuse me ive watched both players numerous times over the years. And aqua offers alot more than miereles does in my opinion. And just because maureen rates him what does that mean. Rafa rated lucas does that make him a great player.

Course you have watched both players many a time, course you have.

If you had watched both players as much as you say you have then you wouldn't be tapping your fingers on your keyboard before engaging your brain. Meireles will offer and bring more to the team that Aquilani ever did and if you have watched the aforementioned as much as you say you have you would be of the same assumption.

SouthCoastShankly wrote:

rocky29 wrote:a fully fit aquilani is loads better than meireles.

Rocky you are making a habit of posting like a div.

TarnRed wrote:

rocky29 wrote:

TarnRed wrote:Rocky.



That shows exactly what you know about Meireles, ziltch, nada, zero. In future please either know something about the player in question or don't even engage in any sort of discussion.

He can't be that bad a player Rocky. Jose Mourinho signed tha lad for FC Porto, and he even tried to take him to Inter only for the deal to collapse due to Quaresma backing out of returning to FC Porto.

excuse me ive watched both players numerous times over the years. And aqua offers alot more than miereles does in my opinion. And just because maureen rates him what does that mean. Rafa rated lucas does that make him a great player.

Course you have watched both players many a time, course you have.

If you had watched both players as much as you say you have then you wouldn't be tapping your fingers on your keyboard before engaging your brain. Meireles will offer and bring more to the team that Aquilani ever did and if you have watched the aforementioned as much as you say you have you would be of the same assumption.

lol another mr know it all so what your saying is im not entitled to my opinion. What would you like me to do lie and just post what you want to hear. Unbelievable   

Ciggy wrote:

bigmick wrote:Also, I'm encouraged by Roy trying to move Lucas out to West Ham. He worked thatone out pretty sharpish.

Yes Roy worked that one out quick enough on deadline day its not asif he hasnt watched lucas for a few years and been at the club since June.

I am no Lucas fan and Ive never hid the fact but to bomb him and Babel out on deadline day only for them to remain at the club is pretty shabby treatment from the manager and the club.

We now have two very unhappy players unwanted players on our hand, nice one LFC.

Greavesie wrote:got to say like I wouldnt be too chuffed at my boss trying to ship me out only for it to fall through. Isn't that what p!ssed Alonso off?

I'm strongly hoping that Roy's both Babel and Lucas off in the Alonso way.  If they follow that model, they'll raise their game several notches this season, make telling contributions and then head for the exit door.  In Alonso's case, that departure was a massive blow.  In Lucas and Babel's case, I'd find a way to live with it.

rocky29 wrote:

bigmick wrote:In all seriousness he's going to need to be a good deal better than Aquilani, because quite simply the Italian was a fairly big distance away from being what was required. Aquilani certainly had some ability, but his influence upon games was minimal for much of their passage. I know someone will quote me his "assists against relegated teams" stats, but I don't need those to tell me a player doesn't cut it.

We essentially had to carry Aquilani for the whole match in the hope he might cross it at some point and someone might score from it. There's assists and there's assists, and we didn't see much of the game breaking pass from Aquilani which split a defence wide open and put the striker in one on one. We didn't see mazy dribbles where three defenders were committed before the ball was slipped off to a waiting predator. And we didn't see the fabled long shooting, either to score goals or to cause goals to be scored. What we basically got was a player who probably spent the least amount of time in possession of the football of ay Liverpool player I can remember. Each time he got it you would have thought the ball was an unexploded bomb, or the defenders were suicide bombers so keen was he to offload it to the nearest and easiest red shirt.

So the Portuguese lad has got to contribute much much more than that. My guess is that he'll get up and down, and I also have a feeling that he will play alongside Poulsen with Gerrard ahead of them when we play our best team. I am unconvinced by either Cole in the hole or by Jovanovic anywhere (I think he's a poor player TBH based on what we've seen so far) and have a feeling as the season progresses we'll see Cole employed left side. Hopefully Moriaeles can provide the link between our back five (with Poulsen) and our front two. It was too easy to cut our best two players off when we had the axis, and I'm very confident that our new central midfielders will provide much more than our old ones did. To this end, I don't think we'll overly miss Masherano. Also, I'm encouraged by Roy trying to move Lucas out to West Ham. He worked thatone out pretty sharpish.

well done mick. You actually wrote a full post without even mentioniing stephen ireland.

Says the lad who only fails to mention Aquilani when he's banging on about Luis Fabiano.