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Igor Zidane wrote:What are you to do though ? We all know he's not good enough , he's not is he ? So when he makes a fool of himself and of the team and of LFC in general . Derision is the only answer i reckon , it's not my style like but i see more and more people resorting to it and i can see why . We have a manager who is lost and as a result the team is lost and as a result the fans are lost and as a result the manager gets it good style .  What Rafa had to put up with was far worse than what roy is getting and i'll tell you why .

Rafa got it off some of the fans with as much venom if not more (i've had arguements at the match mate with said muppets) but rafa got it over a sustaned period of the media . There was a campaign gainst him on sky and in the press that was relentless .

Roy has been called ba few names and a legend at our club has a had his name sung . There have been know shouts of Roy out blaha blah , but the shouting of kenny's name is a clear message .


We as LFC haven't been in this situation since pre 1959 . We havent had such a bad manager or team . This is how the best fans in the world react to utter . Noone can tell me they have seen such bad performances by a manager and team of LFC on such a consistant basis. We all know it , we are just pretty new to it ,so we must sort it straight away .

LFC2007 wrote:

Igor Zidane wrote:What are you to do though ? We all know he's not good enough , he's not is he ? So when he makes a fool of himself and of the team and of LFC in general . Derision is the only answer i reckon , it's not my style like but i see more and more people resorting to it and i can see why . We have a manager who is lost and as a result the team is lost and as a result the fans are lost and as a result the manager gets it good style .  What Rafa had to put up with was far worse than what roy is getting and i'll tell you why .

Rafa got it off some of the fans with as much venom if not more (i've had arguements at the match mate with said muppets) but rafa got it over a sustaned period of the media . There was a campaign gainst him on sky and in the press that was relentless .

Roy has been called ba few names and a legend at our club has a had his name sung . There have been know shouts of Roy out blaha blah , but the shouting of kenny's name is a clear message .


We as LFC haven't been in this situation since pre 1959 . We havent had such a bad manager or team . This is how the best fans in the world react to utter . Noone can tell me they have seen such bad performances by a manager and team of LFC on such a consistant basis. We all know it , we are just pretty new to it ,so we must sort it straight away .

I'm not sure we are that "new to it", no. In fact I'd say we're pretty familar with "utter sh!t" after last season's showing. The Wigans and Portmouths of this world had a fecking field day when Rafa Benitez's side came to town. As for apparently deluded remarks to the media and "shifting the blame", we quite arguably saw a bit of that, too. But, for the disgraceful performances and inexplicable remarks to the press, the reaction wasn't as it is now, no it was the polar opposite. Instead of the grand p!ss takes, the abuse and the villification, the same people were demanding the strictest standards across the board when it came to any form of criticism of the manager. A journalist could give the manager a funny look and people would be up in arms. Even when Rafa talked about the priest on a mountain of sugar, the response wasn't to liken him to a comedian as was Roy after frankly a nothing comment, the response was "well in Rafa, lad. He gets us you see." 


Anyway, yeah, we all know Roy's not Liverpool material we just have different ways of expressing it and derision certainly isn't the only answer; in fact the derision of the manager isn't something I associate with Liverpool fans at all, but rather the talksport or Newcastle variety. It's strange because we all pretty much agree on the manager's suitability - it's become a question of when not if he goes - and yet some still feel the need to ram their message home with a load of villification, abuse and mockery. It stinks and the sad thing is that you can be sure if there was nobody to keep them in check, they'd say much worse. It runs completely contrary to everything I know about The Liverpool Way, and it runs completely contrary to the way the last manager was treated. I thought we didn't turn on our managers, I thought we did things differently, I thought we showed respect and kept our dignity through the wind and the rain. That soon went out the window didn't it.