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[Ciggy]

the day Kenny Dalglish chose to quit as our manager. The fall from the top of the tree and the aftermath of that decision is with us today.

Absolutly the day he walked out was the day it all ended for us, I remember being in town that afternoon the whole city fell silent the fella that sells the Echo had it on his tranny weird feeling in the city that day, I got home my mum was in tears.

And no we have never recovered from it, my mum still says it till this day.

[maguskwt]

I dont respect him because I dont like him, everyone knows that, and I dont care what anyone thinks about my stance on him just because im a Liverpool fan doesnt mean I agree or like the decisions that have been made the past 3 years and it all stems from Twit & Tw@ts ownership.

If they hadnt have bought the club Hodsgon wouldnt have been our manager now, not that they had ever heard of him mind they where probably told by Purslow he wouldnt rock the boat and demand a big transfer kity and wouldnt mind players being sold.

Not like his predecessor who sussed them out and told the fans what they where up to, and thats where it went wrong for Rafa it got personal between him and them once they went behind his back for Klinnsman everyone realised they where up to no good they even admitted the reasons for wanting Klinnsman because he had good contacts with Nike and Adidas not because he was a world class manager that would win us trophy after trophy and get us challenging no because it was a money making scam.

Of course Rafa is not free of blame either he frustrated the fuckin life out of me at times, I hated all them draws, I hated some of his buys and knew they would flop. And the Alonso saga was the end of his reign here I didnt want Gareth Barry and wanted Robbie keane even less.  This is where it started to go pearshaped and when he bought Aqualani who was out injured for 6 months of the season was mind baffeling when what we needed was a direct replacement immedialty to slot into our midfield.

Instead we spent the whole season with the Lucas & Mascherano combo Lucas spent most of last season indisguise as a crab with the CH behind him doing the same there was no room for crabs in this team though as Torres thrived on the through balls from Alonso once the fella that was the engine that kept us going left the team fell to pieces added to the fact of Rafa taking his eye off the ball and went to war with the Yanks well it all went Pete Tong.

His sacking was sly whilst he was on holiday he didnt know anything about it, his replacement was sounded out before he was sacked and once everyone became aware of who the replacement was most people where dismayed with it being Hodgson.

If any of you get time please download our game against Fulham at Anfield last season please do it, what you see in that game is what we have seen all season since Roy took over it was a ten men behind the ball job and they camped in our half for the 90 odd minutes, we peppered their goal threw the kitchen sink at them but it ended up nil-nil, it was one of the worst away teams that had ever visited Anfield, it was more Anti-football than Stoke, it was a joke that these where masquerading as a football team in the supposed best league in the world.

But it wasnt just this game that made me not want Hodgson I seen him as an Allardyce, Phil Brown, Mick McCarthy type manager, and never thought for one minute that Liverpool Football Club would hire such a medicore manager who has never stayed at a club for longer than two years, whos away record has to be up there as the worst ever in his 105 away league games since 1980 with Bristol City, Blackburn, Fulham and Liverpool he has won only 13 times.

I respect Fergusson I hate him but I respect him for what he has achieved in his managerial career, I respect Wenger for the type of football his team plays, I respect Ancelloti because of what he has won, but I cannot respect Roy Hodsgon just because he is our manager who has won nothing of note in 35 years of management.
respect has to be earned and he hasnt earned none from me because he is not a world class manager our club deserves.

And I am worried some what of what the new owners are going to do about the situation, what must NOT happen is Roy Hodgson gets his own way and brings in his OWN players, because you know what our season and season to come are going to be like.
He has one way of setting up his teams, he has no Plan B, C, D. His methods are flat back four, five across the midfield and the loan target man upfront some thing Fernando Torres is not and never will be and Roy will change this he will bring in a big target man that fits in with his tactics because he wont adjust his to fit around Torres.

What we have seen all season will continue under Roy, there will be no gung ho attacking play unless we go behind, there will be no keeping possession something our team has had the majority of for the past 6 years.
We will continue to be outplayed by the likes of Wigan, Stokes, and Blackpools of this world if he stays.

Put your hand on your heart and tell me you want these tactics and performances to continue, they do Liverpool football Club no favours what so ever, they do our players no good what so ever and the fans are in complete uproar because of it.

Martin Broughton told us the reason he got the job and it was because the british media like him, not because he would have us challenging on all fronts no because the gutter press like the english manager because he's one of them, you seen what Rafa had to put up with in the press and imagine he was still in charge they would have had him hung out to dry with these performances over the past four months, they would have had his head on the chopping block by now is there a word about good old uncle roy?

Is there shite, whos the latest victim? Roberto Mancini, who will the spotlight be on this week? Fabio Cappello, see the trend here xenophobia those pesky foreign managers coming over taking our English managers jobs, err hello when was the last time an english man won the league or the CL?

English managers are not very good the best one of the bunch at the minute is Harry Redknapp and pretty soon Capello will be houded out by the British media if results dont go their way, and when they want the new replacement there is only one man for the job.

And his name is Roy Hodgson if he's good enough for Liverpool F.C. he's good enough for England.

good post Ciggy... I hope we will get a new manager soon...

[Redman in wales]

I dont respect him because I dont like him, everyone knows that, and I dont care what anyone thinks about my stance on him just because im a Liverpool fan doesnt mean I agree or like the decisions that have been made the past 3 years and it all stems from Twit & Tw@ts ownership.

If they hadnt have bought the club Hodsgon wouldnt have been our manager now, not that they had ever heard of him mind they where probably told by Purslow he wouldnt rock the boat and demand a big transfer kity and wouldnt mind players being sold.

Not like his predecessor who sussed them out and told the fans what they where up to, and thats where it went wrong for Rafa it got personal between him and them once they went behind his back for Klinnsman everyone realised they where up to no good they even admitted the reasons for wanting Klinnsman because he had good contacts with Nike and Adidas not because he was a world class manager that would win us trophy after trophy and get us challenging no because it was a money making scam.

Of course Rafa is not free of blame either he frustrated the fuckin life out of me at times, I hated all them draws, I hated some of his buys and knew they would flop. And the Alonso saga was the end of his reign here I didnt want Gareth Barry and wanted Robbie keane even less.  This is where it started to go pearshaped and when he bought Aqualani who was out injured for 6 months of the season was mind baffeling when what we needed was a direct replacement immedialty to slot into our midfield.

Instead we spent the whole season with the Lucas & Mascherano combo Lucas spent most of last season indisguise as a crab with the CH behind him doing the same there was no room for crabs in this team though as Torres thrived on the through balls from Alonso once the fella that was the engine that kept us going left the team fell to pieces added to the fact of Rafa taking his eye off the ball and went to war with the Yanks well it all went Pete Tong.

His sacking was sly whilst he was on holiday he didnt know anything about it, his replacement was sounded out before he was sacked and once everyone became aware of who the replacement was most people where dismayed with it being Hodgson.

If any of you get time please download our game against Fulham at Anfield last season please do it, what you see in that game is what we have seen all season since Roy took over it was a ten men behind the ball job and they camped in our half for the 90 odd minutes, we peppered their goal threw the kitchen sink at them but it ended up nil-nil, it was one of the worst away teams that had ever visited Anfield, it was more Anti-football than Stoke, it was a joke that these where masquerading as a football team in the supposed best league in the world.

But it wasnt just this game that made me not want Hodgson I seen him as an Allardyce, Phil Brown, Mick McCarthy type manager, and never thought for one minute that Liverpool Football Club would hire such a medicore manager who has never stayed at a club for longer than two years, whos away record has to be up there as the worst ever in his 105 away league games since 1980 with Bristol City, Blackburn, Fulham and Liverpool he has won only 13 times.

I respect Fergusson I hate him but I respect him for what he has achieved in his managerial career, I respect Wenger for the type of football his team plays, I respect Ancelloti because of what he has won, but I cannot respect Roy Hodsgon just because he is our manager who has won nothing of note in 35 years of management.
respect has to be earned and he hasnt earned none from me because he is not a world class manager our club deserves.

And I am worried some what of what the new owners are going to do about the situation, what must NOT happen is Roy Hodgson gets his own way and brings in his OWN players, because you know what our season and season to come are going to be like.
He has one way of setting up his teams, he has no Plan B, C, D. His methods are flat back four, five across the midfield and the loan target man upfront some thing Fernando Torres is not and never will be and Roy will change this he will bring in a big target man that fits in with his tactics because he wont adjust his to fit around Torres.

What we have seen all season will continue under Roy, there will be no gung ho attacking play unless we go behind, there will be no keeping possession something our team has had the majority of for the past 6 years.
We will continue to be outplayed by the likes of Wigan, Stokes, and Blackpools of this world if he stays.

Put your hand on your heart and tell me you want these tactics and performances to continue, they do Liverpool football Club no favours what so ever, they do our players no good what so ever and the fans are in complete uproar because of it.

Martin Broughton told us the reason he got the job and it was because the british media like him, not because he would have us challenging on all fronts no because the gutter press like the english manager because he's one of them, you seen what Rafa had to put up with in the press and imagine he was still in charge they would have had him hung out to dry with these performances over the past four months, they would have had his head on the chopping block by now is there a word about good old uncle roy?

Is there shite, whos the latest victim? Roberto Mancini, who will the spotlight be on this week? Fabio Cappello, see the trend here xenophobia those pesky foreign managers coming over taking our English managers jobs, err hello when was the last time an english man won the league or the CL?

English managers are not very good the best one of the bunch at the minute is Harry Redknapp and pretty soon Capello will be houded out by the British media if results dont go their way, and when they want the new replacement there is only one man for the job.

And his name is Roy Hodgson if he's good enough for Liverpool F.C. he's good enough for England.

A very VERY good post.

   <- that's not against you lynds or that post, but just the way it makes me feel

[dawson99]

Respect is earned, it is not a god given right just because a person becomes manager of LFC. Therefore i give Hodgson no respect, because he has not earned it

This stupid concept is bullsh'it.
How hard is it to show someone respect? Do you go through life disrespecting everyone until they earn your respect?
Silly, silly statement.
Roy Hodgson has been a manager for decades. At club and international level. There has been no reason whatsoever to disrespect him. He is the manager of our club for fu'cks sake. Even if you hated him with a passion (why, I dont know) does he really deserve the treatment he has had from day one?
Manners cost nothing and as far as I can see there have been plenty of ill mannered comments from ill mannered people. I am not talking about criticism (before GYBS goes on one) I am talking about pathetic slurs and outright offensive comments which should not be accepted from any true supporter.
He will go, Im sure of that now, but how good will those who gleefully mocked him feel knowing that a decent man was ridiculed by them for trying to do his job? I will not defend someone who isnt up to the job theyre paid very well to do. But I wont accept such a person being treated like a tw@t by ignorant ba'stards in the name of LFC.
For shame people. For shame...

well said thommo im shocked. I didnt realise you had a sensitive side. But totally agree with all your post.

When I was younger I was educated by older match goers who instilled into me that LFC was everything and respect was paramount.
I remember being in the kop and booing the opposition goalie when he came up to the goal. I got a swift smack in the ear and told by the man that "we dont do things like that lad" whereupon everyone clapped the goalie who waved and clapped back
Respect. He didnt have to earn it.
We clapped him because we were different and respectful of our opponents efforts to stop us even though they were in vain. I was proud to be a Liverpudlian because we were better than the rest. The very thought of mocking our manager never, ever would have occured to me at any time in my life as a supporter.
It makes me sad

I love you Thommo! f*cking great post

[Benny The Noon]

I dont respect him because I dont like him, everyone knows that, and I dont care what anyone thinks about my stance on him just because im a Liverpool fan doesnt mean I agree or like the decisions that have been made the past 3 years and it all stems from Twit & Tw@ts ownership.

If they hadnt have bought the club Hodsgon wouldnt have been our manager now, not that they had ever heard of him mind they where probably told by Purslow he wouldnt rock the boat and demand a big transfer kity and wouldnt mind players being sold.

Not like his predecessor who sussed them out and told the fans what they where up to, and thats where it went wrong for Rafa it got personal between him and them once they went behind his back for Klinnsman everyone realised they where up to no good they even admitted the reasons for wanting Klinnsman because he had good contacts with Nike and Adidas not because he was a world class manager that would win us trophy after trophy and get us challenging no because it was a money making scam.

Of course Rafa is not free of blame either he frustrated the fuckin life out of me at times, I hated all them draws, I hated some of his buys and knew they would flop. And the Alonso saga was the end of his reign here I didnt want Gareth Barry and wanted Robbie keane even less.  This is where it started to go pearshaped and when he bought Aqualani who was out injured for 6 months of the season was mind baffeling when what we needed was a direct replacement immedialty to slot into our midfield.

Instead we spent the whole season with the Lucas & Mascherano combo Lucas spent most of last season indisguise as a crab with the CH behind him doing the same there was no room for crabs in this team though as Torres thrived on the through balls from Alonso once the fella that was the engine that kept us going left the team fell to pieces added to the fact of Rafa taking his eye off the ball and went to war with the Yanks well it all went Pete Tong.

His sacking was sly whilst he was on holiday he didnt know anything about it, his replacement was sounded out before he was sacked and once everyone became aware of who the replacement was most people where dismayed with it being Hodgson.

If any of you get time please download our game against Fulham at Anfield last season please do it, what you see in that game is what we have seen all season since Roy took over it was a ten men behind the ball job and they camped in our half for the 90 odd minutes, we peppered their goal threw the kitchen sink at them but it ended up nil-nil, it was one of the worst away teams that had ever visited Anfield, it was more Anti-football than Stoke, it was a joke that these where masquerading as a football team in the supposed best league in the world.

But it wasnt just this game that made me not want Hodgson I seen him as an Allardyce, Phil Brown, Mick McCarthy type manager, and never thought for one minute that Liverpool Football Club would hire such a medicore manager who has never stayed at a club for longer than two years, whos away record has to be up there as the worst ever in his 105 away league games since 1980 with Bristol City, Blackburn, Fulham and Liverpool he has won only 13 times.

I respect Fergusson I hate him but I respect him for what he has achieved in his managerial career, I respect Wenger for the type of football his team plays, I respect Ancelloti because of what he has won, but I cannot respect Roy Hodsgon just because he is our manager who has won nothing of note in 35 years of management.
respect has to be earned and he hasnt earned none from me because he is not a world class manager our club deserves.

And I am worried some what of what the new owners are going to do about the situation, what must NOT happen is Roy Hodgson gets his own way and brings in his OWN players, because you know what our season and season to come are going to be like.
He has one way of setting up his teams, he has no Plan B, C, D. His methods are flat back four, five across the midfield and the loan target man upfront some thing Fernando Torres is not and never will be and Roy will change this he will bring in a big target man that fits in with his tactics because he wont adjust his to fit around Torres.

What we have seen all season will continue under Roy, there will be no gung ho attacking play unless we go behind, there will be no keeping possession something our team has had the majority of for the past 6 years.
We will continue to be outplayed by the likes of Wigan, Stokes, and Blackpools of this world if he stays.

Put your hand on your heart and tell me you want these tactics and performances to continue, they do Liverpool football Club no favours what so ever, they do our players no good what so ever and the fans are in complete uproar because of it.

Martin Broughton told us the reason he got the job and it was because the british media like him, not because he would have us challenging on all fronts no because the gutter press like the english manager because he's one of them, you seen what Rafa had to put up with in the press and imagine he was still in charge they would have had him hung out to dry with these performances over the past four months, they would have had his head on the chopping block by now is there a word about good old uncle roy?

Is there shite, whos the latest victim? Roberto Mancini, who will the spotlight be on this week? Fabio Cappello, see the trend here xenophobia those pesky foreign managers coming over taking our English managers jobs, err hello when was the last time an english man won the league or the CL?

English managers are not very good the best one of the bunch at the minute is Harry Redknapp and pretty soon Capello will be houded out by the British media if results dont go their way, and when they want the new replacement there is only one man for the job.

And his name is Roy Hodgson if he's good enough for Liverpool F.C. he's good enough for England.

Agree with that post and it sums up my feelings spot on apart from not liking him - i dont really know him as a person but i dont like him as our manager .

[worcester_red]

Read my post. I never said i disrespected Hodgson, i said i have no respect for him as LFC manager. And i dont go through life disrespecting anyone, but to respect them they have to EARN IT!  what the hells wrong with that?  Also for people to respect me i also have to EARN that respect.

Ive read your post and I understand exactly what you mean. I disagree that people dont deserve respect and Im sure if you thought about it you would agree with me. Its rather childish to say "I dont respect anyone until they earn it" because we clearly dont live by that rule in everyday life. I am sure you show respect to plenty of people, even some that you dont know, and you certainly dont make them "earn it" from you.
I am talking about simple, civil acceptance that the man has been in the game for donkeys, has become our manager and deserves respect for that alone. Where I think the confusion sets in is people thinking respect means love, adore or hold in high esteeem. No. Just plain and simple acknowledgement that hes here trying to do his job under difficult circumstances and needs a little sympathy, understanding and...respect. When it becomes clear that hes not up to it, like Benitez, then get rid. No problemo.
I myself have been disrespectful to our former manager, but only as a reaction to others disrespecting the current one. I am not proud or happy with this, but Im not going to sit here saying nothing while others are taking the pi'ss. As Ive said, thats the way I was brought up.

I agree completely that you should start off with a neutral respect for someone, if the whoel world did that it would be afar better place. If they then do good that respect builds but if they do bad then it vanishes and can even turn into anger, mockery and in extreme cases hatred. I fear that Hodgson, in as far as he is our manager, is heading in the latter direction and from his press interviews so far he has done nothing to increase my respect of him rather the opposite.

[Benny The Noon]

Surely there is somewhere in the middle where you neither respect someone nor disrespect someone ? If there is that is exactly where i sit in regards to Hodgson .

[jacdaniel]

We've been f.ucked over by people before. (H+G) 

That makes if more difficult to trust or respect people so quickly.

[andy_g]

Surely there is somewhere in the middle where you neither respect someone nor disrespect someone ? If there is that is exactly where i sit in regards to Hodgson .

have you always been there? or are you on your way towards respect from disrespect or vice versa? is your neutral respect coefficient a function of time over performance, or do external factors apply? what is the general shape of the curve when respect is plotted against time?

[Benny The Noon]

Surely there is somewhere in the middle where you neither respect someone nor disrespect someone ? If there is that is exactly where i sit in regards to Hodgson .

have you always been there? or are you on your way towards respect from disrespect or vice versa? is your neutral respect coefficient a function of time over performance, or do external factors apply? what is the general shape of the curve when respect is plotted against time?

feck off

[SouthCoastShankly]

I dont respect him because I dont like him, everyone knows that, and I dont care what anyone thinks about my stance on him just because im a Liverpool fan doesnt mean I agree or like the decisions that have been made the past 3 years and it all stems from Twit & Tw@ts ownership.

If they hadnt have bought the club Hodsgon wouldnt have been our manager now, not that they had ever heard of him mind they where probably told by Purslow he wouldnt rock the boat and demand a big transfer kity and wouldnt mind players being sold.

Not like his predecessor who sussed them out and told the fans what they where up to, and thats where it went wrong for Rafa it got personal between him and them once they went behind his back for Klinnsman everyone realised they where up to no good they even admitted the reasons for wanting Klinnsman because he had good contacts with Nike and Adidas not because he was a world class manager that would win us trophy after trophy and get us challenging no because it was a money making scam.

Of course Rafa is not free of blame either he frustrated the fuckin life out of me at times, I hated all them draws, I hated some of his buys and knew they would flop. And the Alonso saga was the end of his reign here I didnt want Gareth Barry and wanted Robbie keane even less.  This is where it started to go pearshaped and when he bought Aqualani who was out injured for 6 months of the season was mind baffeling when what we needed was a direct replacement immedialty to slot into our midfield.

Instead we spent the whole season with the Lucas & Mascherano combo Lucas spent most of last season indisguise as a crab with the CH behind him doing the same there was no room for crabs in this team though as Torres thrived on the through balls from Alonso once the fella that was the engine that kept us going left the team fell to pieces added to the fact of Rafa taking his eye off the ball and went to war with the Yanks well it all went Pete Tong.

His sacking was sly whilst he was on holiday he didnt know anything about it, his replacement was sounded out before he was sacked and once everyone became aware of who the replacement was most people where dismayed with it being Hodgson.

If any of you get time please download our game against Fulham at Anfield last season please do it, what you see in that game is what we have seen all season since Roy took over it was a ten men behind the ball job and they camped in our half for the 90 odd minutes, we peppered their goal threw the kitchen sink at them but it ended up nil-nil, it was one of the worst away teams that had ever visited Anfield, it was more Anti-football than Stoke, it was a joke that these where masquerading as a football team in the supposed best league in the world.

But it wasnt just this game that made me not want Hodgson I seen him as an Allardyce, Phil Brown, Mick McCarthy type manager, and never thought for one minute that Liverpool Football Club would hire such a medicore manager who has never stayed at a club for longer than two years, whos away record has to be up there as the worst ever in his 105 away league games since 1980 with Bristol City, Blackburn, Fulham and Liverpool he has won only 13 times.

I respect Fergusson I hate him but I respect him for what he has achieved in his managerial career, I respect Wenger for the type of football his team plays, I respect Ancelloti because of what he has won, but I cannot respect Roy Hodsgon just because he is our manager who has won nothing of note in 35 years of management.
respect has to be earned and he hasnt earned none from me because he is not a world class manager our club deserves.

And I am worried some what of what the new owners are going to do about the situation, what must NOT happen is Roy Hodgson gets his own way and brings in his OWN players, because you know what our season and season to come are going to be like.
He has one way of setting up his teams, he has no Plan B, C, D. His methods are flat back four, five across the midfield and the loan target man upfront some thing Fernando Torres is not and never will be and Roy will change this he will bring in a big target man that fits in with his tactics because he wont adjust his to fit around Torres.

What we have seen all season will continue under Roy, there will be no gung ho attacking play unless we go behind, there will be no keeping possession something our team has had the majority of for the past 6 years.
We will continue to be outplayed by the likes of Wigan, Stokes, and Blackpools of this world if he stays.

Put your hand on your heart and tell me you want these tactics and performances to continue, they do Liverpool football Club no favours what so ever, they do our players no good what so ever and the fans are in complete uproar because of it.

Martin Broughton told us the reason he got the job and it was because the british media like him, not because he would have us challenging on all fronts no because the gutter press like the english manager because he's one of them, you seen what Rafa had to put up with in the press and imagine he was still in charge they would have had him hung out to dry with these performances over the past four months, they would have had his head on the chopping block by now is there a word about good old uncle roy?

Is there shite, whos the latest victim? Roberto Mancini, who will the spotlight be on this week? Fabio Cappello, see the trend here xenophobia those pesky foreign managers coming over taking our English managers jobs, err hello when was the last time an english man won the league or the CL?

English managers are not very good the best one of the bunch at the minute is Harry Redknapp and pretty soon Capello will be houded out by the British media if results dont go their way, and when they want the new replacement there is only one man for the job.

And his name is Roy Hodgson if he's good enough for Liverpool F.C. he's good enough for England.

A good post. Funnily enough I agree with your reason to dislike him, I had the same reservations when he was appointed.

But I don't see any benefit constantly slagging him off because what inevitably happens is the hatred/dislike (delete as appropriate) towards him ends up clouding the actual situation. It's no longer objective.

I can't say I agree with the xenophobia comment towards foreign managers. The league is flooded with too many foreign players as well as managers. The very reason we struggle at an international level is the lack of opportunity for home grown English players. We should be looking after our own first.

If there is any xenophobia it's against the English. After all Liverpool are an English club, in an English league with mainly English supporters.

Nothing excites a crowd more than seeing local lads put on the shirt and succeed.

[dawson99]

there is no respect, we saw that plain and clear yesterday... lwets just have anarchic arguing

[metalhead]

I dont respect him because I dont like him, everyone knows that, and I dont care what anyone thinks about my stance on him just because im a Liverpool fan doesnt mean I agree or like the decisions that have been made the past 3 years and it all stems from Twit & Tw@ts ownership.

If they hadnt have bought the club Hodsgon wouldnt have been our manager now, not that they had ever heard of him mind they where probably told by Purslow he wouldnt rock the boat and demand a big transfer kity and wouldnt mind players being sold.

Not like his predecessor who sussed them out and told the fans what they where up to, and thats where it went wrong for Rafa it got personal between him and them once they went behind his back for Klinnsman everyone realised they where up to no good they even admitted the reasons for wanting Klinnsman because he had good contacts with Nike and Adidas not because he was a world class manager that would win us trophy after trophy and get us challenging no because it was a money making scam.

Of course Rafa is not free of blame either he frustrated the fuckin life out of me at times, I hated all them draws, I hated some of his buys and knew they would flop. And the Alonso saga was the end of his reign here I didnt want Gareth Barry and wanted Robbie keane even less.  This is where it started to go pearshaped and when he bought Aqualani who was out injured for 6 months of the season was mind baffeling when what we needed was a direct replacement immedialty to slot into our midfield.

Instead we spent the whole season with the Lucas & Mascherano combo Lucas spent most of last season indisguise as a crab with the CH behind him doing the same there was no room for crabs in this team though as Torres thrived on the through balls from Alonso once the fella that was the engine that kept us going left the team fell to pieces added to the fact of Rafa taking his eye off the ball and went to war with the Yanks well it all went Pete Tong.

His sacking was sly whilst he was on holiday he didnt know anything about it, his replacement was sounded out before he was sacked and once everyone became aware of who the replacement was most people where dismayed with it being Hodgson.

If any of you get time please download our game against Fulham at Anfield last season please do it, what you see in that game is what we have seen all season since Roy took over it was a ten men behind the ball job and they camped in our half for the 90 odd minutes, we peppered their goal threw the kitchen sink at them but it ended up nil-nil, it was one of the worst away teams that had ever visited Anfield, it was more Anti-football than Stoke, it was a joke that these where masquerading as a football team in the supposed best league in the world.

But it wasnt just this game that made me not want Hodgson I seen him as an Allardyce, Phil Brown, Mick McCarthy type manager, and never thought for one minute that Liverpool Football Club would hire such a medicore manager who has never stayed at a club for longer than two years, whos away record has to be up there as the worst ever in his 105 away league games since 1980 with Bristol City, Blackburn, Fulham and Liverpool he has won only 13 times.

I respect Fergusson I hate him but I respect him for what he has achieved in his managerial career, I respect Wenger for the type of football his team plays, I respect Ancelloti because of what he has won, but I cannot respect Roy Hodsgon just because he is our manager who has won nothing of note in 35 years of management.
respect has to be earned and he hasnt earned none from me because he is not a world class manager our club deserves.

And I am worried some what of what the new owners are going to do about the situation, what must NOT happen is Roy Hodgson gets his own way and brings in his OWN players, because you know what our season and season to come are going to be like.
He has one way of setting up his teams, he has no Plan B, C, D. His methods are flat back four, five across the midfield and the loan target man upfront some thing Fernando Torres is not and never will be and Roy will change this he will bring in a big target man that fits in with his tactics because he wont adjust his to fit around Torres.

What we have seen all season will continue under Roy, there will be no gung ho attacking play unless we go behind, there will be no keeping possession something our team has had the majority of for the past 6 years.
We will continue to be outplayed by the likes of Wigan, Stokes, and Blackpools of this world if he stays.

Put your hand on your heart and tell me you want these tactics and performances to continue, they do Liverpool football Club no favours what so ever, they do our players no good what so ever and the fans are in complete uproar because of it.

Martin Broughton told us the reason he got the job and it was because the british media like him, not because he would have us challenging on all fronts no because the gutter press like the english manager because he's one of them, you seen what Rafa had to put up with in the press and imagine he was still in charge they would have had him hung out to dry with these performances over the past four months, they would have had his head on the chopping block by now is there a word about good old uncle roy?

Is there shite, whos the latest victim? Roberto Mancini, who will the spotlight be on this week? Fabio Cappello, see the trend here xenophobia those pesky foreign managers coming over taking our English managers jobs, err hello when was the last time an english man won the league or the CL?

English managers are not very good the best one of the bunch at the minute is Harry Redknapp and pretty soon Capello will be houded out by the British media if results dont go their way, and when they want the new replacement there is only one man for the job.

And his name is Roy Hodgson if he's good enough for Liverpool F.C. he's good enough for England.

Now that is called being sensible, brilliant post

and I agree about the english media.

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Surely there is somewhere in the middle where you neither respect someone nor disrespect someone ? If there is that is exactly where i sit in regards to Hodgson .

have you always been there? or are you on your way towards respect from disrespect or vice versa? is your neutral respect coefficient a function of time over performance, or do external factors apply? what is the general shape of the curve when respect is plotted against time?

feck off

that is illogical

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WoW this forum is something else

lol @ Andy G post.