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by **tubby** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:20 am

Big Niall wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
Big Niall wrote:what other manager can step into a foreign league and win the league first season, at a club that hasn't won anything in 50 years?

I don't think there has ever been a foreign manager that has come into a side that has spend such vast sums of money both before and during their tenure so it's not really something you can compare in terms of past managers.

Put it another way. If Abramovich never bought Chelsea would he have won back to back leagues there? I don't think so.

No he wouldn't but would Ferguson have won all those leagues at west brom? no!

be honest, if you were a multi billionaire and wanted to buy a club (not LFC so don't use emotional krap), and you wanted a manager to spend 200m to make you the best club in the world, who would you get?

Simples....

by **Big Niall** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:29 am

bavlondon wrote:
Big Niall wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
Big Niall wrote:what other manager can step into a foreign league and win the league first season, at a club that hasn't won anything in 50 years?

I don't think there has ever been a foreign manager that has come into a side that has spend such vast sums of money both before and during their tenure so it's not really something you can compare in terms of past managers.

Put it another way. If Abramovich never bought Chelsea would he have won back to back leagues there? I don't think so.

No he wouldn't but would Ferguson have won all those leagues at west brom? no!

be honest, if you were a multi billionaire and wanted to buy a club (not LFC so don't use emotional krap), and you wanted a manager to spend 200m to make you the best club in the world, who would you get?

Simples....

YOU probably would

by **tubby** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:57 am

Tbf you walked right into that one

like I'd really choose anyone else. Right it's way past my bed time. To be continued.

by **Bad Bob** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:12 am

Big Niall wrote:At the moment he should be grateful Mourinho bought czech,cole,lampard,drogba,malouda - well , the whole spine of the team really.

Er, except that Ranieri actually bought Lampard and Cech.

by **burjennio** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:34 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
Big Niall wrote:At the moment he should be grateful Mourinho bought czech,cole,lampard,drogba,malouda - well , the whole spine of the team really.

Er, except that Ranieri actually bought Lampard and Cech.

thanks Bob I was racing down to the bottom of the thread to get that little fact in! And honestly Drogba was hardly picked out of obscurity ffs he was eating and sh*tting teams on route to the UEFA cup final that season even scoring against and knocking out the mighty Reds on the way. Who'd Marseille lose that final to again?

by **tubby** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:49 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
Big Niall wrote:At the moment he should be grateful Mourinho bought czech,cole,lampard,drogba,malouda - well , the whole spine of the team really.

Er, except that Ranieri actually bought Lampard and Cech.

Plus Duff

And Mourinho never signed Cole, Ranieri did. Is that what you meant bob?

by **LFC2007** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:06 am

If you give me £300m I'll sign some good players, too. I reckon even Benny and Bav would tbh

by **tubby** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:21 am

LFC2007 wrote:If you give me £300m I'll sign some good players, too. I reckon even Benny and Bav would tbh

Damn right I would mate. I've been playing FM for years!!!!! I know all the good ones. :laugh:

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:22 am

Lucas and Kuyt would be bought immediately mate

by **Bad Bob** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:18 am

bavlondon wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
Big Niall wrote:At the moment he should be grateful Mourinho bought czech,cole,lampard,drogba,malouda - well , the whole spine of the team really.

Er, except that Ranieri actually bought Lampard and Cech.

Plus Duff

And Mourinho never signed Cole, Ranieri did. Is that what you meant bob?

Bav, I was giving Niall the benefit of the doubt and assuming he meant Ashley Cole (who Jose did sign) and not Joe Cole (who he did not).

by **babu** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:14 am

Think this is my first or second post in this thread. I really think the issues with Jose are quite simple. Two main points.

Point One:
I don't care what club you are, if JM comes as your manager, you are virtually guaranteed to win trophies. FACT. Why?
Because he is a clever bugger. He will never join a club unless the conditions are right for him and he is in a position to dictate. Things like financial power, owner's support and his autonomy, salary, players, etc. If there's the right balance he will join.

Second Point:
If any or a combination of the above conditions change, he will walk. FACT. He's proven it. So it will a rare owner that will have JM long term, Imo.

So the only differentiating point is how he manages at these clubs. And so far noone can argue how successful he has been. But its hard to compare him across the board, as only a handful of managers has be able to dictate terms.

Regardless, I hate the b@stard.

by **laza** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:28 am

LFC2007 wrote:If you give me £300m I'll sign some good players, too. I reckon even Benny and Bav would tbh

If you gave that amount to Rocky you get 15 Aquamen

by **andy_g** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:26 am

is some peoples' argument that mourinho is a sh!tehawk and a charlatan because he only accepts the good jobs?

by **jacdaniel** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:50 am

Jose is afraid to take a difficult job.

Id like to see him manage Atletico Madrid or someone like that and try to topple Madrid and Barca on a budget. Wouldnt happen.

by **andy_g** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:57 am

jacdaniel wrote:Jose is afraid to take a difficult job.

if i had the choice to be the managing director of microsoft or the managing director of bob's burger van, i'd probably be afraid to accept the latter as well.

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