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by **mart** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:03 am

maguskwt wrote:next week he will be injured again...

Maybe but even then i'd prefer him over Poulsen.

by **devaney** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:07 am

maguskwt wrote:
rocky29 wrote:
Aussie Style wrote:On the weekend where the crisis of England’s most successful club went from bad to worse with yet another defeat to Everton in the Merseyside Derby, a result that sees Liverpool floundering in the relegation zone, out-on-loan Reds midfielder Alberto Aquilani poured yet more salt into an already sore wound with an indomitable performance for an increasingly improving Juventus side.

While there is no doubt that Liverpool erred in splashing out €20 million on a player who has had more injuries than a Nigel De Jong torture victim, especially as he was signed as Xabi Alonso’s replacement, all this talk of the 26-year-old being an unmitigated ‘flop’ is rather, well, premfaced. Not only did Aquilani play very well in virtually all of his admittedly low number of 26 games for Liverpool last season, more importantly the 2007 Champions League finalists are crying out for a commanding midfielder of his ilk just now.

Juventus were already laughing all the way to the bank when they managed to sell the worst player to represent the Bianconeri for at least a decade – Christian Poulsen – to Liverpool for €5.5m, their merriment increased even further when they were handed Aquilani on loan in return, with the option to buy him permanently. In the space of a few months Liverpool have gone from a midfield of Mascherano-Aquilani-Gerrard to one including Poulsen, the equally awful Lucas and Raul Meireles. No wonder they are in the relegation zone.

The Roman has gradually been implemented into the Juventus starting XI, and the last few weeks has demonstrated that if he can stay fit he will be a top-class – potentially world class – midfielder for the Old Lady. He confirmed his impressive showing against Inter a fortnight ago with another super display in the 4-0 thrashing of Lecce yesterday afternoon. Aquilani opened the scoring with a 25-yard thunderbolt, and controlled the middle-of-the-park alongside fellow reborn team-mate Felipe Melo.

read this you fecking aqua bashers and dont give it the seria A not good enough bullsh'it. I told u all he would come good. Joe cole

next week he will be injured again...

26 games but how many minutes? I liked Aquilani but I am convinced that Benitez fkd about with the lads brain and he wanted away from Anfield and back to his homeland. I don't think we will ever find out the truth behind this saga until Aquilani rights his autobiography!

What are the terms of the loan deal? Is there an agreed price with Juventus? Can we call him back before the end of the season?

by **devaney** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:15 am

Aussie Style wrote:On the weekend where the crisis of England’s most successful club went from bad to worse with yet another defeat to Everton in the Merseyside Derby, a result that sees Liverpool floundering in the relegation zone, out-on-loan Reds midfielder Alberto Aquilani poured yet more salt into an already sore wound with an indomitable performance for an increasingly improving Juventus side.

While there is no doubt that Liverpool erred in splashing out €20 million on a player who has had more injuries than a Nigel De Jong torture victim, especially as he was signed as Xabi Alonso’s replacement, all this talk of the 26-year-old being an unmitigated ‘flop’ is rather, well, premfaced. Not only did Aquilani play very well in virtually all of his admittedly low number of 26 games for Liverpool last season, more importantly the 2007 Champions League finalists are crying out for a commanding midfielder of his ilk just now.

Juventus were already laughing all the way to the bank when they managed to sell the worst player to represent the Bianconeri for at least a decade – Christian Poulsen – to Liverpool for €5.5m, their merriment increased even further when they were handed Aquilani on loan in return, with the option to buy him permanently. In the space of a few months Liverpool have gone from a midfield of Mascherano-Aquilani-Gerrard to one including Poulsen, the equally awful Lucas and Raul Meireles. No wonder they are in the relegation zone.

The Roman has gradually been implemented into the Juventus starting XI, and the last few weeks has demonstrated that if he can stay fit he will be a top-class – potentially world class – midfielder for the Old Lady. He confirmed his impressive showing against Inter a fortnight ago with another super display in the 4-0 thrashing of Lecce yesterday afternoon. Aquilani opened the scoring with a 25-yard thunderbolt, and controlled the middle-of-the-park alongside fellow reborn team-mate Felipe Melo.

Suggest you have a look at this before getting too carried away with Aquilani http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=13752&cc=5739

27 shots in the PS and 1 goal is one of the more interesting figures for an attacking midfielder or has he suddenly become a defensive midfielder since he left Roma with the suggestion that Benitez wanted him to replace Alonso!

by **devaney** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:41 am

burjennio wrote:Hate to break it to you devaney but LFC arnt the fooballing heavyweights we were in the 70s and 80s anymore. We havnt had the finance in the last few years to compete with out rivals so those top 4 finishes were in all honesty a great achivement. Benitez was our most successful coach since Dalglish so to say "second is the first loser" is just being arrogant. I cant remember too many of our coaches winning silverware every other season recently and while last years performance wasnt good enough Benitez did consistently get us into the CL and into the latter stages of that competition regularly. How about a little perspective please? This isnt having a go at you personally devaney I just think this "lets blame Rafa" agenda that some people on here have is getting beyond a joke. Hes not making that current side play as badly as they are, that lies with the current boss.

Benitez completed transfer negotiations totalling nearly £400m with a net spend of nearly £70m over 6 years. His average annual spend came down dramatically during the last couple of seasons when he was working with a reduced transfer budget which was largely due to his own historical ineptitude in the transfer market. To suggest that he hasn't had meaningful money to spend is simply not true. He chose to spend it on the likes of Keane and Aquilani and suffered the consequences.

From 2006 to 2010 Benitez's performance in the premiership was a mixed bag and admittedly not without some excitement and success. But what does Benitez do when we actually get ourselves into a possible title winning position, and let's face it the football in the first half of that season was anything but attractive, yes Benitez decides to have the most amazing rant at Ferguson which was idiotic in the extreme. He then starts playing defensive football and ends up with drawing a handful of games that we should have been winning. He sells Keane in the January transfer window and leaves himself short on strikers and as they say the rest is history. I was now fan of Keane and I thought the price we paid was ridiculous but he may have proved to be of some use when we were chasing after the title.

We are all allowed to make mistakes in our jobs but when your annual salary is £5m before bonuses then the mistakes should be very few and far between. That was not the case with Benitez so whilst you may think that some of the criticism is a joke I happen to think that a lot of it is totally justified. That is my perspective and I am sorry if you don't like it.

by **Aussie Style** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:29 pm

devaney wrote:Suggest you have a look at this before getting too carried away with Aquilani

Haha getting carried away? I never even made a comment, just simply put the story up for those that may have missed it.

by **rocky29** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:57 pm

devaney wrote:
Aussie Style wrote:On the weekend where the crisis of England’s most successful club went from bad to worse with yet another defeat to Everton in the Merseyside Derby, a result that sees Liverpool floundering in the relegation zone, out-on-loan Reds midfielder Alberto Aquilani poured yet more salt into an already sore wound with an indomitable performance for an increasingly improving Juventus side.

While there is no doubt that Liverpool erred in splashing out €20 million on a player who has had more injuries than a Nigel De Jong torture victim, especially as he was signed as Xabi Alonso’s replacement, all this talk of the 26-year-old being an unmitigated ‘flop’ is rather, well, premfaced. Not only did Aquilani play very well in virtually all of his admittedly low number of 26 games for Liverpool last season, more importantly the 2007 Champions League finalists are crying out for a commanding midfielder of his ilk just now.

Juventus were already laughing all the way to the bank when they managed to sell the worst player to represent the Bianconeri for at least a decade – Christian Poulsen – to Liverpool for €5.5m, their merriment increased even further when they were handed Aquilani on loan in return, with the option to buy him permanently. In the space of a few months Liverpool have gone from a midfield of Mascherano-Aquilani-Gerrard to one including Poulsen, the equally awful Lucas and Raul Meireles. No wonder they are in the relegation zone.

The Roman has gradually been implemented into the Juventus starting XI, and the last few weeks has demonstrated that if he can stay fit he will be a top-class – potentially world class – midfielder for the Old Lady. He confirmed his impressive showing against Inter a fortnight ago with another super display in the 4-0 thrashing of Lecce yesterday afternoon. Aquilani opened the scoring with a 25-yard thunderbolt, and controlled the middle-of-the-park alongside fellow reborn team-mate Felipe Melo.

Suggest you have a look at this before getting too carried away with Aquilani http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=13752&cc=5739

27 shots in the PS and 1 goal is one of the more interesting figures for an attacking midfielder or has he suddenly become a defensive midfielder since he left Roma with the suggestion that Benitez wanted him to replace Alonso!

what a load of bollox the first 4 games he was sub for juve. then he played well in the o-o draw with inter milan. he then kept his place scored a 25 yard screamer and juve won 4-0. He scored 2 goals and 7 assists in just 13 games for us. how many goals and assists have joe cole meireles and poulsen scored between them so far?

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:47 pm

Thommo's perm wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:He was always the wrong type of player for Hodgson - creative .

Benitez didnt like creativity either

love is blind.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:57 pm

rocky29 wrote:benny and mick got get a room and squabble all you like about roy and rafa. This is the aqua thread.

awww

by **devaney** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:32 pm

Aussie Style wrote:
devaney wrote:Suggest you have a look at this before getting too carried away with Aquilani

Haha getting carried away? I never even made a comment, just simply put the story up for those that may have missed it.

Sorry Aussie I thought it was your own work. Should have realised as it wasn't your usual style lol !!!

by **Thommo's perm** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:13 pm

maypaxvobiscum wrote:
Thommo's perm wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:He was always the wrong type of player for Hodgson - creative .

Benitez didnt like creativity either

love is blind.

And a many splendoured thing

by **PabloAimar** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:27 pm

rocky29 wrote:
devaney wrote:
Aussie Style wrote:On the weekend where the crisis of England’s most successful club went from bad to worse with yet another defeat to Everton in the Merseyside Derby, a result that sees Liverpool floundering in the relegation zone, out-on-loan Reds midfielder Alberto Aquilani poured yet more salt into an already sore wound with an indomitable performance for an increasingly improving Juventus side.

While there is no doubt that Liverpool erred in splashing out €20 million on a player who has had more injuries than a Nigel De Jong torture victim, especially as he was signed as Xabi Alonso’s replacement, all this talk of the 26-year-old being an unmitigated ‘flop’ is rather, well, premfaced. Not only did Aquilani play very well in virtually all of his admittedly low number of 26 games for Liverpool last season, more importantly the 2007 Champions League finalists are crying out for a commanding midfielder of his ilk just now.

Juventus were already laughing all the way to the bank when they managed to sell the worst player to represent the Bianconeri for at least a decade – Christian Poulsen – to Liverpool for €5.5m, their merriment increased even further when they were handed Aquilani on loan in return, with the option to buy him permanently. In the space of a few months Liverpool have gone from a midfield of Mascherano-Aquilani-Gerrard to one including Poulsen, the equally awful Lucas and Raul Meireles. No wonder they are in the relegation zone.

The Roman has gradually been implemented into the Juventus starting XI, and the last few weeks has demonstrated that if he can stay fit he will be a top-class – potentially world class – midfielder for the Old Lady. He confirmed his impressive showing against Inter a fortnight ago with another super display in the 4-0 thrashing of Lecce yesterday afternoon. Aquilani opened the scoring with a 25-yard thunderbolt, and controlled the middle-of-the-park alongside fellow reborn team-mate Felipe Melo.

Suggest you have a look at this before getting too carried away with Aquilani http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=13752&cc=5739

27 shots in the PS and 1 goal is one of the more interesting figures for an attacking midfielder or has he suddenly become a defensive midfielder since he left Roma with the suggestion that Benitez wanted him to replace Alonso!

what a load of bollox the first 4 games he was sub for juve. then he played well in the o-o draw with inter milan. he then kept his place scored a 25 yard screamer and juve won 4-0. He scored 2 goals and 7 assists in just 13 games for us. how many goals and assists have joe cole meireles and poulsen scored between them so far?

this.

by **Zidane** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:42 pm

Why we sent Alberto and Insua on loan I'll never know

by **Simari** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:43 pm

Zidane wrote:Why we sent Alberto and Insua on loan I'll never know

To get playing time since we have a strong squad

by **luvliverpool** » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:21 am

On the weekend where the crisis of England’s most successful club went from bad to worse with yet another defeat to Everton in the Merseyside Derby, a result that sees Liverpool floundering in the relegation zone, out-on-loan Reds midfielder Alberto Aquilani poured yet more salt into an already sore wound with an indomitable performance for an increasingly improving Juventus side.

While there is no doubt that Liverpool erred in splashing out €20 million on a player who has had more injuries than a Nigel De Jong torture victim, especially as he was signed as Xabi Alonso’s replacement, all this talk of the 26-year-old being an unmitigated ‘flop’ is rather, well, premfaced. Not only did Aquilani play very well in virtually all of his admittedly low number of 26 games for Liverpool last season, more importantly the 2007 Champions League finalists are crying out for a commanding midfielder of his ilk just now.

Juventus were already laughing all the way to the bank when they managed to sell the worst player to represent the Bianconeri for at least a decade – Christian Poulsen – to Liverpool for €5.5m, their merriment increased even further when they were handed Aquilani on loan in return, with the option to buy him permanently. In the space of a few months Liverpool have gone from a midfield of Mascherano-Aquilani-Gerrard to one including Poulsen, the equally awful Lucas and Raul Meireles. No wonder they are in the relegation zone.

The Roman has gradually been implemented into the Juventus starting XI, and the last few weeks has demonstrated that if he can stay fit he will be a top-class – potentially world class – midfielder for the Old Lady. He confirmed his impressive showing against Inter a fortnight ago with another super display in the 4-0 thrashing of Lecce yesterday afternoon. Aquilani opened the scoring with a 25-yard thunderbolt, and controlled the middle-of-the-park alongside fellow reborn team-mate Felipe Melo.

read this you fecking aqua bashers and dont give it the seria A not good enough bullsh'it. I told u all he would come good. Joe cole

I have to say I totally agree - Aqu is a class player! The problem when he played for us was that Gerrard was supporting Torres and Aqu was in the centre of mid......His best position is where they had Gerrard - just behind the striker. I am totally dunbfounded why Roy allowed him to go on load, I mean out of all the games he played his passing was superb, especially in the UEFA cup qualifying - I thought he was excellent. We should sack Roy, recall Aqua and play him just behind torres - with the midfield of Cole, Gerrard, Merieles,Kuyt or Maxi.........and I bet we will soon climb back up the table as Nando will have a stronger team behind him with a midfield and supporting attacking player that has great vision and passing!

by **PabloMedina28** » Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:20 am

still cant work out why he was sent on loan he is top top class the only doubt i have about him is his fitness
we should call him back in jan if we have that option

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