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Postby Benny The Noon » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:12 pm

bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:We were far better managed than we currently are

Well only a fool would dispute that based on what we've seen so far, and I aren't one of those. It's a bit like Roy saying the performace against Everton was the best since he's been here though, (it probably was BTW) but it doesn't say much for the other matches does it?

Saying we were managed better when we weren't second bottom is hardly a ringing endorcement, neither is your constant "but have we moved forwards" question.

The simple fact of the matter is we were plumetting with benitez, and so far Hodgson is speeding up the process. The answer though isn't hark back to the guy who took you into the tailspin in the first place, it's to seek a solution.

We had one bad season under previous manager - there is no reason to say he wouldnt of turned it around .
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Postby metalhead » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:17 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:We were far better managed than we currently are

Well only a fool would dispute that based on what we've seen so far, and I aren't one of those. It's a bit like Roy saying the performace against Everton was the best since he's been here though, (it probably was BTW) but it doesn't say much for the other matches does it?

Saying we were managed better when we weren't second bottom is hardly a ringing endorcement, neither is your constant "but have we moved forwards" question.

The simple fact of the matter is we were plumetting with benitez, and so far Hodgson is speeding up the process. The answer though isn't hark back to the guy who took you into the tailspin in the first place, it's to seek a solution.

We had one bad season under previous manager - there is no reason to say he wouldnt of turned it around .

one bad season?! what about the 2 seasons we got 4th and no trophies?
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Postby Benny The Noon » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:22 pm

metalhead wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:We were far better managed than we currently are

Well only a fool would dispute that based on what we've seen so far, and I aren't one of those. It's a bit like Roy saying the performace against Everton was the best since he's been here though, (it probably was BTW) but it doesn't say much for the other matches does it?

Saying we were managed better when we weren't second bottom is hardly a ringing endorcement, neither is your constant "but have we moved forwards" question.

The simple fact of the matter is we were plumetting with benitez, and so far Hodgson is speeding up the process. The answer though isn't hark back to the guy who took you into the tailspin in the first place, it's to seek a solution.

We had one bad season under previous manager - there is no reason to say he wouldnt of turned it around .

one bad season?! what about the 2 seasons we got 4th and no trophies?

Is that a bad season now is it ?
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Postby devaney » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:24 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:We were far better managed than we currently are

Well only a fool would dispute that based on what we've seen so far, and I aren't one of those. It's a bit like Roy saying the performace against Everton was the best since he's been here though, (it probably was BTW) but it doesn't say much for the other matches does it?

Saying we were managed better when we weren't second bottom is hardly a ringing endorcement, neither is your constant "but have we moved forwards" question.

The simple fact of the matter is we were plumetting with benitez, and so far Hodgson is speeding up the process. The answer though isn't hark back to the guy who took you into the tailspin in the first place, it's to seek a solution.

We had one bad season under previous manager - there is no reason to say he wouldnt of turned it around .

We won fk all for four seasons under Benitez and that in my opinion is just not acceptable. You'll be telling me next that the year after we won the CL was an ok season. We scraped into the CL due to a rule change giving the holder automatic qualification. When will you accept that Benitez was average at very best and tactically at times bewildering? You could almost set your watch by the time Benitez would make his first substitution - 71 minutes and 37 seconds to be precise !!
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Postby Benny The Noon » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:25 pm

devaney wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:We were far better managed than we currently are

Well only a fool would dispute that based on what we've seen so far, and I aren't one of those. It's a bit like Roy saying the performace against Everton was the best since he's been here though, (it probably was BTW) but it doesn't say much for the other matches does it?

Saying we were managed better when we weren't second bottom is hardly a ringing endorcement, neither is your constant "but have we moved forwards" question.

The simple fact of the matter is we were plumetting with benitez, and so far Hodgson is speeding up the process. The answer though isn't hark back to the guy who took you into the tailspin in the first place, it's to seek a solution.

We had one bad season under previous manager - there is no reason to say he wouldnt of turned it around .

We won fk all for four seasons under Benitez and that in my opinion is just not acceptable. You'll be telling me next that the year after we won the CL was an ok season. We scraped into the CL due to a rule change giving the holder automatic qualification. When will you accept that Benitez was average at very best and tactically at times bewildering? You could almost set your watch by the time Benitez would make his first substitution - 71 minutes and 37 seconds to be precise !!

Didnt we win the FA Cup the season after we won the CL and also have our best prem total since it began  ???

How would you describe his replacement then
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Postby metalhead » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:29 pm

Its bad season because we were years ahead of the winners, no trophies. Now we Liverpool should be contending for the title every year, so I don't know about you, whats your expectation?
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Postby rocky29 » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:29 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:We were far better managed than we currently are

Well only a fool would dispute that based on what we've seen so far, and I aren't one of those. It's a bit like Roy saying the performace against Everton was the best since he's been here though, (it probably was BTW) but it doesn't say much for the other matches does it?

Saying we were managed better when we weren't second bottom is hardly a ringing endorcement, neither is your constant "but have we moved forwards" question.

The simple fact of the matter is we were plumetting with benitez, and so far Hodgson is speeding up the process. The answer though isn't hark back to the guy who took you into the tailspin in the first place, it's to seek a solution.

We had one bad season under previous manager - there is no reason to say he wouldnt of turned it around .

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Postby Ola Mr Benitez » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:30 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:We were far better managed than we currently are

Well only a fool would dispute that based on what we've seen so far, and I aren't one of those. It's a bit like Roy saying the performace against Everton was the best since he's been here though, (it probably was BTW) but it doesn't say much for the other matches does it?

Saying we were managed better when we weren't second bottom is hardly a ringing endorcement, neither is your constant "but have we moved forwards" question.

The simple fact of the matter is we were plumetting with benitez, and so far Hodgson is speeding up the process. The answer though isn't hark back to the guy who took you into the tailspin in the first place, it's to seek a solution.

We had one bad season under previous manager - there is no reason to say he wouldnt of turned it around .

Sorry, we had one good season under Rafa.

The football was awfuk
The majority of his signings failed
He constantly played players out of position
He didn't have a plan b
He was stubborn and didn't learn from his many mistakes


The seasons where we made most progress was when Paco was at the club when he left the tailspin began
He alienated players especially Alonso that proved catastrophic
He had his favourites and it didn't matter how well others played they where dropped (even if you scored a hat trick against Arsenal)

Oh yes - let's bring him back and let the goodtimes roll!

At the same time I am not saying Roy is the man, but let's not paint over the mess that Rafa made of the job... back to Aquilani, not good enough for the Premiership
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Postby rocky29 » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:31 pm

metalhead wrote:Its bad season because we were years ahead of the winners, no trophies. Now we Liverpool should be contending for the title every year, so I don't know about you, whats your expectation?

go on the rafa or roy thread your taking the fecking pess.
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Postby devaney » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:41 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
devaney wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:We were far better managed than we currently are

Well only a fool would dispute that based on what we've seen so far, and I aren't one of those. It's a bit like Roy saying the performace against Everton was the best since he's been here though, (it probably was BTW) but it doesn't say much for the other matches does it?

Saying we were managed better when we weren't second bottom is hardly a ringing endorcement, neither is your constant "but have we moved forwards" question.

The simple fact of the matter is we were plumetting with benitez, and so far Hodgson is speeding up the process. The answer though isn't hark back to the guy who took you into the tailspin in the first place, it's to seek a solution.

We had one bad season under previous manager - there is no reason to say he wouldnt of turned it around .

We won fk all for four seasons under Benitez and that in my opinion is just not acceptable. You'll be telling me next that the year after we won the CL was an ok season. We scraped into the CL due to a rule change giving the holder automatic qualification. When will you accept that Benitez was average at very best and tactically at times bewildering? You could almost set your watch by the time Benitez would make his first substitution - 71 minutes and 37 seconds to be precise !!

Didnt we win the FA Cup the season after we won the CL and also have our best prem total since it began  ???

How would you describe his replacement then

The FA Cup win was I you so correctly point out was in 2006. 2007 2008 2009 2010 produced nothing in terms of trophies. As far as I am concerned coming second is first of the losers so the points total you refer to doesn't do a lot for me!
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Postby burjennio » Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:24 pm

Hate to break it to you devaney but LFC arnt the fooballing heavyweights we were in the 70s and 80s anymore. We havnt had the finance in the last few years to compete with out rivals so those top 4 finishes were in all honesty a great achivement. Benitez was our most successful coach since Dalglish so to say "second is the first loser" is just being arrogant. I cant remember too many of our coaches winning silverware every other season recently and while last years performance wasnt good enough Benitez did consistently get us into the CL and into the latter stages of that competition regularly. How about a little perspective please? This isnt having a go at you personally devaney I just think this "lets blame Rafa" agenda that some people on here have is getting beyond a joke. Hes not making that current side play as badly as they are, that lies with the current boss.
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Postby rocky29 » Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:37 pm

fecking benny and bigmick again. How many more chances are the mods gona give. They hyjack every thread with there bullsh!it and get away with it. I thought it was 2 yellows and your off. The place is a fecking joke.
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Postby Aussie Style » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:19 pm

On the weekend where the crisis of England’s most successful club went from bad to worse with yet another defeat to Everton in the Merseyside Derby, a result that sees Liverpool floundering in the relegation zone, out-on-loan Reds midfielder Alberto Aquilani poured yet more salt into an already sore wound with an indomitable performance for an increasingly improving Juventus side.

While there is no doubt that Liverpool erred in splashing out €20 million on a player who has had more injuries than a Nigel De Jong torture victim, especially as he was signed as Xabi Alonso’s replacement, all this talk of the 26-year-old being an unmitigated ‘flop’ is rather, well, premfaced. Not only did Aquilani play very well in virtually all of his admittedly low number of 26 games for Liverpool last season, more importantly the 2007 Champions League finalists are crying out for a commanding midfielder of his ilk just now. 

Juventus were already laughing all the way to the bank when they managed to sell the worst player to represent the Bianconeri for at least a decade – Christian Poulsen – to Liverpool for €5.5m, their merriment increased even further when they were handed Aquilani on loan in return, with the option to buy him permanently. In the space of a few months Liverpool have gone from a midfield of Mascherano-Aquilani-Gerrard to one including Poulsen, the equally awful Lucas and Raul Meireles. No wonder they are in the relegation zone.

The Roman has gradually been implemented into the Juventus starting XI, and the last few weeks has demonstrated that if he can stay fit he will be a top-class – potentially world class – midfielder for the Old Lady. He confirmed his impressive showing against Inter a fortnight ago with another super display in the 4-0 thrashing of Lecce yesterday afternoon. Aquilani opened the scoring with a 25-yard thunderbolt, and controlled the middle-of-the-park alongside fellow reborn team-mate Felipe Melo.
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Postby rocky29 » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:06 am

Aussie Style wrote:On the weekend where the crisis of England’s most successful club went from bad to worse with yet another defeat to Everton in the Merseyside Derby, a result that sees Liverpool floundering in the relegation zone, out-on-loan Reds midfielder Alberto Aquilani poured yet more salt into an already sore wound with an indomitable performance for an increasingly improving Juventus side.

While there is no doubt that Liverpool erred in splashing out €20 million on a player who has had more injuries than a Nigel De Jong torture victim, especially as he was signed as Xabi Alonso’s replacement, all this talk of the 26-year-old being an unmitigated ‘flop’ is rather, well, premfaced. Not only did Aquilani play very well in virtually all of his admittedly low number of 26 games for Liverpool last season, more importantly the 2007 Champions League finalists are crying out for a commanding midfielder of his ilk just now. 

Juventus were already laughing all the way to the bank when they managed to sell the worst player to represent the Bianconeri for at least a decade – Christian Poulsen – to Liverpool for €5.5m, their merriment increased even further when they were handed Aquilani on loan in return, with the option to buy him permanently. In the space of a few months Liverpool have gone from a midfield of Mascherano-Aquilani-Gerrard to one including Poulsen, the equally awful Lucas and Raul Meireles. No wonder they are in the relegation zone.

The Roman has gradually been implemented into the Juventus starting XI, and the last few weeks has demonstrated that if he can stay fit he will be a top-class – potentially world class – midfielder for the Old Lady. He confirmed his impressive showing against Inter a fortnight ago with another super display in the 4-0 thrashing of Lecce yesterday afternoon. Aquilani opened the scoring with a 25-yard thunderbolt, and controlled the middle-of-the-park alongside fellow reborn team-mate Felipe Melo.

read this you fecking aqua bashers and dont give it the seria A not good enough bullsh'it. I told u all he would come good. Joe cole   :laugh:
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Postby maguskwt » Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:19 am

rocky29 wrote:
Aussie Style wrote:On the weekend where the crisis of England’s most successful club went from bad to worse with yet another defeat to Everton in the Merseyside Derby, a result that sees Liverpool floundering in the relegation zone, out-on-loan Reds midfielder Alberto Aquilani poured yet more salt into an already sore wound with an indomitable performance for an increasingly improving Juventus side.

While there is no doubt that Liverpool erred in splashing out €20 million on a player who has had more injuries than a Nigel De Jong torture victim, especially as he was signed as Xabi Alonso’s replacement, all this talk of the 26-year-old being an unmitigated ‘flop’ is rather, well, premfaced. Not only did Aquilani play very well in virtually all of his admittedly low number of 26 games for Liverpool last season, more importantly the 2007 Champions League finalists are crying out for a commanding midfielder of his ilk just now. 

Juventus were already laughing all the way to the bank when they managed to sell the worst player to represent the Bianconeri for at least a decade – Christian Poulsen – to Liverpool for €5.5m, their merriment increased even further when they were handed Aquilani on loan in return, with the option to buy him permanently. In the space of a few months Liverpool have gone from a midfield of Mascherano-Aquilani-Gerrard to one including Poulsen, the equally awful Lucas and Raul Meireles. No wonder they are in the relegation zone.

The Roman has gradually been implemented into the Juventus starting XI, and the last few weeks has demonstrated that if he can stay fit he will be a top-class – potentially world class – midfielder for the Old Lady. He confirmed his impressive showing against Inter a fortnight ago with another super display in the 4-0 thrashing of Lecce yesterday afternoon. Aquilani opened the scoring with a 25-yard thunderbolt, and controlled the middle-of-the-park alongside fellow reborn team-mate Felipe Melo.

read this you fecking aqua bashers and dont give it the seria A not good enough bullsh'it. I told u all he would come good. Joe cole   :laugh:

next week he will be injured again...  :buttrock
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