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by **maypaxvobiscum** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:45 am

maguskwt wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
dundreamin wrote:ERR Rafas gone. Yep he,s gone. Now close this pointless thread. I mean whats THE POINT?

But we might have to open it again

Honestly speaking, I would've loved it if Rafa came back under the new managers Nanny. At least he will have the chance build on the promising first 3 seasons he had. But if Rafa could not get us into the top 4 or shows substantial improvement in how the team plays, then it's time to forget about Rafa and move on to new directions like Joachim Lowe.

yep i completely agree with you here. i would love it if he came back under a new manager. :;):

by **Ciggy** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:39 am

For all yous that say Rafa wasted million the proof came out yesterday since the Twit & Tw@t arrived net spent is 9 million 3 million a season.

So your arguement is flawed !!!!

Id take him over Roy any day of the week, even in our bad times we where never as bad as this.

If we had the choice get Rafa back or stick with Roy for the rest of the season then its the former.

by **dawson99** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:59 am

can people stop harping on about Net Spend... thats not important, its the wasted millions that matter

Even Danny Murphy is now coming out saying things went bad with Rafa

by **Ciggy** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:03 am

dawson99 wrote:can people stop harping on about Net Spend... thats not important, its the wasted millions that matter

Even Danny Murphy is now coming out saying things went bad with Rafa

Murphys just bitter and can p!ss off.

Rafa spent 3 million a season it all came out yesterday.

by **Ben Patrick** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:11 am

Ciggy wrote:
dawson99 wrote:can people stop harping on about Net Spend... thats not important, its the wasted millions that matter

Even Danny Murphy is now coming out saying things went bad with Rafa

Murphys just bitter and can p!ss off.

Rafa spent 3 million a season it all came out yesterday.

Murphy was one of the players that Rafa disgarded without a second thought who we made nothing off and could have done a job.

Dont try and hide behind net spend.
At the end of the day this squad is poor and weak in so many areas.
Who built it and had years to do so ?

by **Kukilon** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:11 am

Ofcourse the net spend is important.

If your kid is asking you for money all the time and spending lots of money on stuff he is not economic just spoiled.

If your kid on the other hand wheels and deals to make money available so he can buy new stuff it would make me proud.

by **dawson99** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:15 am

Ciggy wrote:
dawson99 wrote:can people stop harping on about Net Spend... thats not important, its the wasted millions that matter

Even Danny Murphy is now coming out saying things went bad with Rafa

Murphys just bitter and can p!ss off.

Rafa spent 3 million a season it all came out yesterday.

Rafa spent 221 million on 76 players.. i dont care about net, im nto a banker, mi a football fan. all i see is him wheeler dealing really badly.

and Danny was class for us, and hes got a good head on his shoulders

by **dawson99** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:15 am

Kukilon wrote:Ofcourse the net spend is important.

If your kid is asking you for money all the time and spending lots of money on stuff he is not economic just spoiled.

If your kid on the other hand wheels and deals to make money available so he can buy new stuff it would make me proud.

if your kid brought and sold 76 things in 5 years youd be proud? whilst the kid has basically bought and sold a load of cr@p?

Good luck Steptoe

by **supersub** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:30 am

dawson99 wrote:
Kukilon wrote:Ofcourse the net spend is important.

If your kid is asking you for money all the time and spending lots of money on stuff he is not economic just spoiled.

If your kid on the other hand wheels and deals to make money available so he can buy new stuff it would make me proud.

if your kid brought and sold 76 things in 5 years youd be proud? whilst the kid has basically bought and sold a load of cr@p?

Good luck Steptoe

If my kids only bought 76 things in 5 years I would be made up.......and most of the stuff they buy is :censored:

by **dawson99** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:34 am

supersub wrote:
dawson99 wrote:
Kukilon wrote:Ofcourse the net spend is important.

If your kid is asking you for money all the time and spending lots of money on stuff he is not economic just spoiled.

If your kid on the other hand wheels and deals to make money available so he can buy new stuff it would make me proud.

if your kid brought and sold 76 things in 5 years youd be proud? whilst the kid has basically bought and sold a load of cr@p?

Good luck Steptoe

If my kids only bought 76 things in 5 years I would be made up.......and most of the stuff they buy is

So you understand what I'm saying :wwww

Look, I liked Rafa, I thought he was great for us, but we all saw the cracks... it was time to move on. Everyone agreed on the most part. We'll agree to disagree as usual.

by **Ciggy** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:38 am

dawson99 wrote:Rafa spent 221 million on 76 players.. i dont care about net, im nto a banker, mi a football fan. all i see is him wheeler dealing really badly.

and Danny was class for us, and hes got a good head on his shoulders

Martin Broughton yesterday, Paul Tomkins & David Prentice who happens to be an Evertonain and more clued up than you seem to be about Rafas spending.

I rest my case.

And as for the fortunes invested on players like Torres, Mascherano and Aquilani. Liverpool spent £151,915,000 on transfers during the American’s reign and recouped £142,325,000.

That’s a nett spend of £9,590,000 – or £3.5m a year.

Read More [url=http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2010/10/08/just-what-did-liverpool-fc-s-american-owners-do-wrong-asks-harry-redknapp-where-do-you-wan
t-us-to-start-replies-david-prentice-100252-27427798/3/#ixzz11qvYmHqt]http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpo....qvYmHqt[/url]

As for Danny Murphy bitter because Rafa got shut went moaning to the sunday rag last week says we are playing better under Hughes than Roy.

by **Ben Patrick** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:41 am

Kukilon wrote:Ofcourse the net spend is important.

If your kid is asking you for money all the time and spending lots of money on stuff he is not economic just spoiled.

If your kid on the other hand wheels and deals to make money available so he can buy new stuff it would make me proud.

Worst analogy ever.

At the end of the day if he has still spent sh!t loads despite what was brought in, i would expect things to be decent.

by **Ben Patrick** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:43 am

Ciggy wrote:
dawson99 wrote:Rafa spent 221 million on 76 players.. i dont care about net, im nto a banker, mi a football fan. all i see is him wheeler dealing really badly.

and Danny was class for us, and hes got a good head on his shoulders

Martin Broughton yesterday, Paul Tomkins & David Prentice who happens to be an Evertonain and more clued up than you seem to be about Rafas spending.

I rest my case.

And as for the fortunes invested on players like Torres, Mascherano and Aquilani. Liverpool spent £151,915,000 on transfers during the American’s reign and recouped £142,325,000.

That’s a nett spend of £9,590,000 – or £3.5m a year.

Read More [url=http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2010/10/08/just-what-did-liverpool-fc-s-american-owners-do-wrong-asks-harry-redknapp-where-do-you-wan

t-us-to-start-replies-david-prentice-100252-27427798/3/#ixzz11qvYmHqt]http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpo....qvYmHqt[/url]

As for Danny Murphy bitter because Rafa got shut went moaning to the sunday rag last week says we are playing better under Hughes than Roy.

Murphy was sold for about 2.5 million and the god Rafa spent about 20 million on Aquilani :laugh:

No wonder he is bitter.

by **Ciggy** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:46 am

Ben Patrick wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
dawson99 wrote:Rafa spent 221 million on 76 players.. i dont care about net, im nto a banker, mi a football fan. all i see is him wheeler dealing really badly.

and Danny was class for us, and hes got a good head on his shoulders

Martin Broughton yesterday, Paul Tomkins & David Prentice who happens to be an Evertonain and more clued up than you seem to be about Rafas spending.

I rest my case.

And as for the fortunes invested on players like Torres, Mascherano and Aquilani. Liverpool spent £151,915,000 on transfers during the American’s reign and recouped £142,325,000.

That’s a nett spend of £9,590,000 – or £3.5m a year.

Read More [url=http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2010/10/08/just-what-did-liverpool-fc-s-american-owners-do-wrong-asks-harry-redknapp-where-do-you-wan

t-us-to-start-replies-david-prentice-100252-27427798/3/#ixzz11qvYmHqt]http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpo....qvYmHqt[/url]

As for Danny Murphy bitter because Rafa got shut went moaning to the sunday rag last week says we are playing better under Hughes than Roy.

Murphy was sold for about 2.5 million and the god Rafa spent about 20 million on Aquilani

No wonder he is bitter.

What part of the article do you NOT understand Ben?
What he spent he recouped.

So he didnt spend 20 million on Aquallini atall.

Ofcourse if you and other wants to ignore these facts they are going to be given to the judge next week lets hope he belives them cause some of our fans DONT !!!!

by **dawson99** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:46 am

The mail says 229 million, Liverpool Kop says 220 million. We dont know if that includes agent fees, signing on, how much of wages, pay offs for the 70 odd players he released, we need to look at everything to see.

Heres some of the betetr known of the 76 he brought in:

• Josemi – £2m - (failure)
• Antonio Nunez - Makeweight in Michael Owen sale - (failure)
• Luis Garcia - £6m (success)
• Xabi Alonso - £10.7m (success)
• Peter Crouch - £7m (success)
• Momo Sissoko - £5.3m (success)
• Sebastian Leto - £1.85m (failure)
• Gabriel Palletta - £2m (failure)
• Bolo Zenden – free (failure)
• Pepe Reina - £6m (success)
• Fernando Morientes - £8m (failure)
• Daniel Agger - £5.8m (success)
• Robbie Fowler – free (failure)
• Craig Bellamy - £6.5m (failure)
• Dirk Kuyt - £10m (success)
• Jermaine Pennant - £6.7m (failure)
• Mark Gonzalez - £1.5m (failure)
• Fabio Aurelio – free (success)
• Javier Mascherano - £17m (success)
• Fernando Torres - £22m (success)
• Alvero Arbeloa – £2m (success??)
• Ryan Babel - £11.5m (failure)
• Yossi Benayoun - £5m (success??)
• Scott Carson - £750,000 (failure)
• Lucas Leiva - £6m (failure)
• Andriy Voronin – free (failure)
• Diego Cavalieri - £3m (?)
• David Ngog - £1.5m (?)
• Robbie Keane - £20.3m (failure)
• Andrea Dossena - £7m (failure)
• Philipp Degen – free (failure)
• Martin Skrtel – £6.5m - (success)
• Albert Riera – £8m (failure)
• Glen Johnson - £18m (?)
• Alberto Aquilani - £20m (failure)
• Sotirios Kyrgiakos - £1.5m (?)

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