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Benny The Noon wrote:That's where you are wrong thou Mick - but we were not once ever near the relegation areas - that 7h place last season isn't look too bad right now is it . You only replace a manager if you bring in someone better - we didn't so we made a massive mistake and you only have to look at the points , the table position and the performances to see it was a mistake . We have gone backwards which shows the club made the wrong choice IMO

What happens now we go on an unbeaten run? we climb up the table and back into top 4?

Have a bit of patience its still october not april

metalhead wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:That's where you are wrong thou Mick - but we were not once ever near the relegation areas - that 7h place last season isn't look too bad right now is it . You only replace a manager if you bring in someone better - we didn't so we made a massive mistake and you only have to look at the points , the table position and the performances to see it was a mistake . We have gone backwards which shows the club made the wrong choice IMO

What happens now we go on an unbeaten run? we climb up the table and back into top 4?

Have a bit of patience its still october not april

Benny The Noon wrote:That's where you are wrong thou Mick - but we were not once ever near the relegation areas - that 7h place last season isn't look too bad right now is it . You only replace a manager if you bring in someone better - we didn't so we made a massive mistake and you only have to look at the points , the table position and the performances to see it was a mistake . We have gone backwards which shows the club made the wrong choice IMO

Benny The Noon wrote:That's where you are wrong thou Mick - but we were not once ever near the relegation areas - that 7h place last season isn't look too bad right now is it . You only replace a manager if you bring in someone better - we didn't so we made a massive mistake and you only have to look at the points , the table position and the performances to see it was a mistake . We have gone backwards which shows the club made the wrong choice IMO

We may be "near the relegation areas", but we've only played 7 matches . Blackpool were top for a day when they won 4-0 at Wigan, but surely people didn't think it was significant.

As for the question of whather or not a manager is "better", I don't think that's the overriding consideration, or at least it shouldn't be. The main thing to consider is whether or not the manager in situ is likely to improve things, and the board took the view that in Benitez's case it was unlikely. Once you've pulled the trigger, you take a punt on somebody else.

If you remember rightly, I never bought into the "Purslow is a c..., Broughton is a c..., Ayres is a c..." clan on here which has been prevailant for the last 12 months. FWIW I've always felt that these blokes have the best interests of the club somewhere near the forfront of their minds (and I believe current events are proving this to be correct), and I think in pulling the trigger on Benitez they acted in the best interests of the club. As Thommo has said, the man had completely lost the plot, and his ego was overriding his common sense. Even his utterings since he left, where he just can't seem to let it go (much like his disciplers on here) only convince me further that he was towards the end a little disturbed.

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:Its akin with attempting to argue the premierships equivalent to  Eddy the Eagle was  better on skis than Franz klammer
case closed for all you budding lawyers ...there are obviously some cases that are simply not winnable 
but keep trying its like someone trying to ride a bike with square wheels uphill ,they no its simply infeasible but they keep jumping on that bike and trying

Did Franz Klammer lose his marbles as well?

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:Its akin with attempting to argue the premierships equivalent to  Eddy the Eagle was  better on skis than Franz klammer
case closed for all you budding lawyers ...there are obviously some cases that are simply not winnable 
but keep trying its like someone trying to ride a bike with square wheels uphill ,they no its simply infeasible but they keep jumping on that bike and trying

Many analogies and similies Red, but the question is this. If Hodgson were to be given six seasons plus access to all the money Benitez spunked, would he win more than two trophies, less than two trophies, or the same as two trophies? Would we finish outside the top four in two out of the six seasons, and have one title challenge, or would we do better or worse?

The simple fact of the matter is that nobody knows. Just like nobody yet knows whether Rafa will match Mourinho's achievements with exactly the same players.

The good thing is that given time, we'll all get a better idea 

bigmick wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:Its akin with attempting to argue the premierships equivalent to  Eddy the Eagle was  better on skis than Franz klammer
case closed for all you budding lawyers ...there are obviously some cases that are simply not winnable 
but keep trying its like someone trying to ride a bike with square wheels uphill ,they no its simply infeasible but they keep jumping on that bike and trying

Many analogies and similies Red, but the question is this. If Hodgson were to be given six seasons plus access to all the money Benitez spunked, would he win more than two trophies, less than two trophies, or the same as two trophies? Would we finish outside the top four in two out of the six seasons, and have one title challenge, or would we do better or worse?

The simple fact of the matter is that nobody knows. Just like nobody yet knows whether Rafa will match Mourinho's achievements with exactly the same players.

The good thing is that given time, we'll all get a better idea 

Benny The Noon wrote:

bigmick wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:Its akin with attempting to argue the premierships equivalent to  Eddy the Eagle was  better on skis than Franz klammer
case closed for all you budding lawyers ...there are obviously some cases that are simply not winnable 
but keep trying its like someone trying to ride a bike with square wheels uphill ,they no its simply infeasible but they keep jumping on that bike and trying

Many analogies and similies Red, but the question is this. If Hodgson were to be given six seasons plus access to all the money Benitez spunked, would he win more than two trophies, less than two trophies, or the same as two trophies? Would we finish outside the top four in two out of the six seasons, and have one title challenge, or would we do better or worse?

The simple fact of the matter is that nobody knows. Just like nobody yet knows whether Rafa will match Mourinho's achievements with exactly the same players.

The good thing is that given time, we'll all get a better idea 

And how can people form opinions on what they think will happen- previous track record and what's currently happening and everything points to hodgson getting nowhere near winning any trophy or getting into the top 4 .