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by **aCe'** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:26 pm

bigmick wrote:
roberto green wrote:Yeah I will say sack him.

Least you're being honest about it mate.

Any others? No more of the snideness and the revelling in putting the boot in? None of this "if we don't win the derby sh!t either, because even if we do we'll lose a game somewhere or he'll select someone you don't like.

Cards on the table, do you want the man sacked?

Well Mick, I'd want him sacked if:

- if we don't win the derby
- if we do win but end up losing a game somewhere else
- if he selects someone I don't like

If any of the 3 conditions is met, he should be sacked immediately !!

by **ruskiy playmaker** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:29 pm

Add me to the sacking list as well. I said a few games back that if things dont improve then he should go. Anyway my replacements would be Kenny, or Pellegrini(if he wants it).

by **bigmick** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:29 pm

aCe' wrote:
bigmick wrote:
roberto green wrote:Yeah I will say sack him.

Least you're being honest about it mate.

Any others? No more of the snideness and the revelling in putting the boot in? None of this "if we don't win the derby sh!t either, because even if we do we'll lose a game somewhere or he'll select someone you don't like.

Cards on the table, do you want the man sacked?

Well Mick, I'd want him sacked if:

- if we don't win the derby
- if we do win but end up losing a game somewhere else
- if he selects someone I don't like

If any of the 3 conditions is met, he should be sacked immediately !!

That's about the size of it mate.

Benny if you don't think he should have got the job in the first place, and you think we are as doomed as you say, why not just sack him and bring in either Dalglish or O Neill?

You have been unbelieveably critical of everything to do with the manager, now you're saying we should keep him on

How odd.

by **bigmick** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:30 pm

So far that's Bav, Rob, Marc and Ruskiy who are at least being honest enough to admit they want to sack the manager. They definately aren't on their own, but not all will admit to it.

by **burjennio** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:30 pm

7 points out of 21 and without a positive to take from a single performance. Im going to say it again, if we lose to the bitters in a fortnight I think he has to go, its relegation form we talking about here. What about yourself Big Michael? Do you think he should be given more time?

by **Benny The Noon** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:32 pm

Did you read my post where I stated my reasons

I answered your question . Never wanted a Liverpool manager sacked - would rather see him improve and change his tactics and set up . We can't afford to waste more money and there is no one to step in so no don't want him sacked .

by **Tophatman** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:34 pm

Way too early to sack him, got to give him a chance, yes more than 7 games.

by **bigmick** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:39 pm

burjennio wrote:What about yourself Big Michael? Do you think he should be given more time?

Yes definately. There is little to recommend him at the moment, but I still think it's far too early to condemn him. The biggest shame for me isthat a huge section of the fanbase never gave him a chance in the first place due to their Rafa devotion.

There is a part of me however that thinks that perhaps the first bloke to follow Benitez was always going to take all the sh!t, and the next manager may indeed get the fans united again. One things for certain though, unless the fans get behind the manager and the team we will always under-achieve.

by **ruskiy playmaker** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:47 pm

How can they get behind the manager Mick, when he's such a pathetic tactitian. Maybe Roy has the players playing like :censored:

, so the owners would :censored:

off.

by **Kopite-Jud** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:53 pm

i'd say sack him, we don't have time to p!ss around hanging on and on and on 7 points from 21 is not acceptable by any streach of the imagination. Not once have i seen us play like we should be. Dull, boring never look like we are going to win a game, 1st half we got smoked by Blackpool. Getting knocked out of the cup, drawing with Sunderland and getting beat by Blackpool at Anfield is an absolute disgrace. Looking at the bench Roy is chilling in his seat for the whole game, never see him on the touch line barking orders or motivating players, not once have we seen the Torres we know (is this because Rafa knew how to get the best out of him?) the players look like they cant be assed in the slightest completley clueless, and dont get me started on Poulsen. Every player and member of staff sould be ashamed.

by **LFC2007** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:55 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:We can't afford to waste more money and there is no one to step in so no don't want him sacked .

We're p!ssing money up the wall servicing loans anyway, what's an extra few million quid on top? It's not going to make a great deal of difference whichever way you look at it, so we can discount that point. Secondly, you've already said the man to step in is Dalglish. Why wouldn't you want him instead of Roy? What don't you prefer about Dalglish? What about Pellegrini, he's still available - the club interviewed him in the summer and he's out of work so would obviously be prepared to take over and you would've been happy with him in the summer. There are others, I'm sure, so why not just admit you'd much rather have one of them?

by **LFC2007** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:56 pm

If for some inexplicable reason Mourinho left Madrird tomorrow and declared himself available for the Liverpool job, would anyone here want Roy sacked? Anyone at all?

by **glenbuck patriot** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:11 am

Logged on again, after a day of utter dispair, to find this thread, finally, people are beginning to see the shear havoc of having an under achieving Manager at the helm, when the Club needs a leader.

Roy Hodgson, pertanently isn't it! never was, never will be, He can walk through the doors of Melwood see the History, Comment on that History, Promise to adapt that History, to today's game, Say he understands "The Liverpool Way", but all in all it's rhetoric.

What we're seeing now is a Man that's re-writing the rule book's, getting beat by a Fourth Division side in the Carling Cup then saying they're a great footballing side, losing to a Blackpool side that not only played us off the pitch but we're described as a team that when we went behind, we had to cope with their quality as a good footballing team.

We have reached the bottom, third from bottom, or have we, our next games are against Everton Away, Blackburn at home, Bolton Away and Chelsea at Home, the way we're playing and more importantly the way the Manager is setting us up for these games, how many points are the forum expecting, i'm looking between 2 & 6 , at best that's 12 from 11 played, still in the bottom three.

This is all so predicatable, not just with Hodgson, but with Allardyce (Newcastle), Hughes (City), Hodgson (Blackburn), Johl (Tottenham), teams that had Manager's who were pertantly not up to the job of Managing a Big Club, who were also totally out of their depth.

The Consequence of "Playing the game the Liverpool way" , giving Roy the chance to stay on, we hit the Jan transfer window, Pepe & Fernando & Agger ALL say they're OFF, We are now in free-fall, and we will never recover, that's why i'm so fervent for Roy to get the Boot NOW, before it's too late, before we do a Leeds!, I know what will happen if this allowed to take place, we'll never recover!

by **JBG** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:21 am

Riy should be sacked, no two ways about it.

I semi supported his appointed as manager, I thought he might do a good sensible job in a holding role for a season or two until the ownership situation was sorted out and a new project with a younger, better manager might begin. However, at the back of my mind I was always concerned that he was a bit of a journeyman manager who always shone at over achieving at smaller clubs (and countries) where expectations were low, and I was concerned at how he would deal with the massive pressures at Liverpool.

Realistically with the ownership situation and the lack of investment in the squad over the past couple of years I felt that even a Mourinho would struggle to get the current squad into the CL next year, but I thought that Roy might have been able to get us to 5th, given the dreadful circumstances.

However, the utter shambolic state of the current playing side is the worst I have seen since Souness' time, and as bad as it were in the early 90s, we could hold our own in the transfer market back then, as was seen by the big spending in the Roy Evans era where we could go out and break British transfer records. However, we dont have anywhere near that luxury now, and as long as the current ownership situations goes on there will be buttons to spend in January.

Roy has failed miserably so far. He has brought in journeymen and has failed to motivate all of the existing talent we have. I know its still early October but the team is in terminal decline and things are going from bad to worse. This morning I was out having a chat with my neighbour and I told him to put money on Blackpool winning. The tragic thing about today was how predictable the result was.

At this stage there is only one plausible replacement for me and that is King Kenny. The man wants the job and while I had my doubts about him 12 months ago, we no longer have the luxury of going after the big names. I dont expect miracles from Kenny but Id expect him to pick sensible teams and get players g'eed up for home games against Blackpool.

Its a sign of how far we've fallen where I would actually consider Kevin Keegan as a better bet than Roy, and I'm not joking. Laugh all you like at Kevin's mistakes in the past, but at least he's a proven motivator.

by **burjennio** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:25 am

Im pretty sure Keegan would try to attack occasionally as well, heaven forbid we should start trying to score goals. I should go to bed now Im only getting angrier. :angry:

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