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Postby Benny The Noon » Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:36 pm

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bigmick wrote:Quite what people think ANY manager would do with a squad which has N'Gog as the second choice striker and Torres playing like he was for the first two months I don't know, but Roy isn't making excuses to say the squad is thin, he's simply stating a fact.

Maybe by a striker in the recent transfer window perhaps.

Perhaps mate.

But having heard for three seasons each time we lost that it was "the owners innit" and that Rafa was managing the club "with his hands tied behind his back" and "shopping at ASDA" because he "didn't have any money to spend", I don't know why those same people haven't yet worked out that until Roy got the Masherano money he couldn't go big for a striker.

Folk law has it that he almost bought some bloke I've never heard of off of Bayern but was denied at the 11th hour. Given  though that he'd been in charge a month whereas his predessessor had been in charge with only Torres as a striker for 20 times as long, it seems a bit silly to be laying the blame at Roys door.

Ten million on Konchesky , Poulsen and Jones - players bought before masher went .
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Postby dawson99 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:40 pm

yawn, again we're just rehashin old things.. we know Roy made some bad signings so far, we know ex managers made loads as well... i think we've made our points. We dont know why who bought who or what money they had or what they knew, lets move on
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Postby Igor Zidane » Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:42 pm

bigmick wrote:
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bigmick wrote:Quite what people think ANY manager would do with a squad which has N'Gog as the second choice striker and Torres playing like he was for the first two months I don't know, but Roy isn't making excuses to say the squad is thin, he's simply stating a fact.

Maybe by a striker in the recent transfer window perhaps.

Perhaps mate.

But having heard for three seasons each time we lost that it was "the owners innit" and that Rafa was managing the club "with his hands tied behind his back" and "shopping at ASDA" because he "didn't have any money to spend", I don't know why those same people haven't yet worked out that until Roy got the Masherano money he couldn't go big for a striker.

Folk law has it that he almost bought some bloke I've never heard of off of Bayern but was denied at the 11th hour. Given  though that he'd been in charge a month whereas his predessessor had been in charge with only Torres as a striker for 20 times as long, it seems a bit silly to be laying the blame at Roys door.

Well mate if you look back to the transfer thread in the summer and various other threads i did say (after borrowing your chrystal ball ) that Roy would have feck all to spend of mascherano's money . So i wasn't expecting him to buy anyone . It shows how much money he had to spend when he was trying to do a swap deal with babbel and cole on the last day . The point i was making was that the last manager had feck all to spend in the 3 previous tranfer windows ,but was still bashed because he never got a decent back up striker ..
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Postby Benny The Noon » Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:42 pm

It's called debate Dawson .
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Postby bigmick » Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:42 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:
bigmick wrote:Quite what people think ANY manager would do with a squad which has N'Gog as the second choice striker and Torres playing like he was for the first two months I don't know, but Roy isn't making excuses to say the squad is thin, he's simply stating a fact.

Maybe by a striker in the recent transfer window perhaps.

Perhaps mate.

But having heard for three seasons each time we lost that it was "the owners innit" and that Rafa was managing the club "with his hands tied behind his back" and "shopping at ASDA" because he "didn't have any money to spend", I don't know why those same people haven't yet worked out that until Roy got the Masherano money he couldn't go big for a striker.

Folk law has it that he almost bought some bloke I've never heard of off of Bayern but was denied at the 11th hour. Given  though that he'd been in charge a month whereas his predessessor had been in charge with only Torres as a striker for 20 times as long, it seems a bit silly to be laying the blame at Roys door.

Ten million on Konchesky , Poulsen and Jones - players bought before masher went .

Yes and we sold Insua, Riera, Benayon and Cavalieri and sent Aquilani out on loan. Not for the first time I don't really know what you mean.

Essentially the point is until he got the Masherano money in, he had little room to manoevre. Now as much as you'd no doubt like to do a head tennis debate about it for the next hour or so, I would frankly rather stuff Hornets up my ersehole so I'm going to leave it there.

Suffice to say we do need a striker, we haven't got one and haven't had a second one for a long time and therefore the squad isn't strong enough. We actually need four strikers to tell the truth, we've got one. Equally, we don't have a top quality centre half, nor do we have a wide man worthy of the name. Pointing this out isn't "looking for excuses" (feck me the irony :laugh:) it is simply a statement of fact.

The squad and team are good enough to challenge for the top four. If you are happy with that, then it is good enough. If you aren't, it isn't.
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Postby dawson99 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:49 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:It's called debate Dawson .

its not, its squabbling over the same points for the past month.. no new ground has been made
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Postby Benny The Noon » Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:51 pm

bigmick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:
bigmick wrote:Quite what people think ANY manager would do with a squad which has N'Gog as the second choice striker and Torres playing like he was for the first two months I don't know, but Roy isn't making excuses to say the squad is thin, he's simply stating a fact.

Maybe by a striker in the recent transfer window perhaps.

Perhaps mate.

But having heard for three seasons each time we lost that it was "the owners innit" and that Rafa was managing the club "with his hands tied behind his back" and "shopping at ASDA" because he "didn't have any money to spend", I don't know why those same people haven't yet worked out that until Roy got the Masherano money he couldn't go big for a striker.

Folk law has it that he almost bought some bloke I've never heard of off of Bayern but was denied at the 11th hour. Given  though that he'd been in charge a month whereas his predessessor had been in charge with only Torres as a striker for 20 times as long, it seems a bit silly to be laying the blame at Roys door.

Ten million on Konchesky , Poulsen and Jones - players bought before masher went .

Yes and we sold Insua, Riera, Benayon and Cavalieri and sent Aquilani out on loan. Not for the first time I don't really know what you mean.

Essentially the point is until he got the Masherano money in, he had little room to manoevre. Now as much as you'd no doubt like to do a head tennis debate about it for the next hour or so, I would frankly rather stuff Hornets up my ersehole so I'm going to leave it there.

Suffice to say we do need a striker, we haven't got one and haven't had a second one for a long time and therefore the squad isn't strong enough. We actually need four strikers to tell the truth, we've got one. Equally, we don't have a top quality centre half, nor do we have a wide man worthy of the name. Pointing this out isn't "looking for excuses" (feck me the irony :laugh:) it is simply a statement of fact.

The squad and team are good enough to challenge for the top four. If you are happy with that, then it is good enough. If you aren't, it isn't.

The point is Mick he spent a good 10 million on players BEFORE masher left

He sent two players out on loan - so thats no money coming in

He bought two replacements - both at a lower standard than the ones he sent out on loan IMO and he wasted 7.5 million doing it as well

Keeper left and we have 4 young keepers that could sit on the bench but then spent 3 more million on someone to never play

So thats 10.5 million pound wasted which could of gone towards a striker before the season started and before masher left and before the transfer window went anywhere near closing . Yes we know previous manager didnt buy a striker to replace keane and we paid the price for it and we know its been a priority so while the previous manager failed so did the current manager did - spent a fair bit of money on players not needed when a striker was needed .

Once the masher deal was done we got Merieles straight away and then it was trying to get a striker when that should be off been early in his start at Liverpool .
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Postby rocky29 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:03 pm

ll say it again in the whole wide world there is isnt a striker we could and still get on loan. You lot talk the same sh'ite day in day out.
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Postby worcester_red » Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:08 pm

Igor Zidane wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:
bigmick wrote:Quite what people think ANY manager would do with a squad which has N'Gog as the second choice striker and Torres playing like he was for the first two months I don't know, but Roy isn't making excuses to say the squad is thin, he's simply stating a fact.

Maybe by a striker in the recent transfer window perhaps.

Perhaps mate.

But having heard for three seasons each time we lost that it was "the owners innit" and that Rafa was managing the club "with his hands tied behind his back" and "shopping at ASDA" because he "didn't have any money to spend", I don't know why those same people haven't yet worked out that until Roy got the Masherano money he couldn't go big for a striker.

Folk law has it that he almost bought some bloke I've never heard of off of Bayern but was denied at the 11th hour. Given  though that he'd been in charge a month whereas his predessessor had been in charge with only Torres as a striker for 20 times as long, it seems a bit silly to be laying the blame at Roys door.

Well mate if you look back to the transfer thread in the summer and various other threads i did say (after borrowing your chrystal ball ) that Roy would have feck all to spend of mascherano's money . So i wasn't expecting him to buy anyone . It shows how much money he had to spend when he was trying to do a swap deal with babbel and cole on the last day . The point i was making was that the last manager had feck all to spend in the 3 previous tranfer windows ,but was still bashed because he never got a decent back up striker ..

Weird he still managed to buy Aqualani though didn't he?
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Postby stmichael » Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:10 pm

rocky29 wrote:ll say it again in the whole wide world there is isnt a striker we could and still get on loan. You lot talk the same sh'ite day in day out.

just a question. how old are you?
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:20 pm

Nothing ...diddly squat the manager cant provide nothing that will convince me he belongs at this great club ....
my stomach churns every time he sits in front of a microphone .... the mans an enigma .... isn't having his two feet permanently wedged  in his mouth enough ?
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Postby dawson99 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:26 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:Nothing ...diddly squat the manager cant provide nothing that will convince me he belongs at this great club ....
my stomach churns every time he sits in front of a microphone .... the mans an enigma .... isn't having his two feet permanently wedged  in his mouth enough ?

we really need to lock this broken record thread
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Postby Igor Zidane » Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:26 pm

worcester_red wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:
bigmick wrote:Quite what people think ANY manager would do with a squad which has N'Gog as the second choice striker and Torres playing like he was for the first two months I don't know, but Roy isn't making excuses to say the squad is thin, he's simply stating a fact.

Maybe by a striker in the recent transfer window perhaps.

Perhaps mate.

But having heard for three seasons each time we lost that it was "the owners innit" and that Rafa was managing the club "with his hands tied behind his back" and "shopping at ASDA" because he "didn't have any money to spend", I don't know why those same people haven't yet worked out that until Roy got the Masherano money he couldn't go big for a striker.

Folk law has it that he almost bought some bloke I've never heard of off of Bayern but was denied at the 11th hour. Given  though that he'd been in charge a month whereas his predessessor had been in charge with only Torres as a striker for 20 times as long, it seems a bit silly to be laying the blame at Roys door.

Well mate if you look back to the transfer thread in the summer and various other threads i did say (after borrowing your chrystal ball ) that Roy would have feck all to spend of mascherano's money . So i wasn't expecting him to buy anyone . It shows how much money he had to spend when he was trying to do a swap deal with babbel and cole on the last day . The point i was making was that the last manager had feck all to spend in the 3 previous tranfer windows ,but was still bashed because he never got a decent back up striker ..

Weird he still managed to buy Aqualani though didn't he?

weird he had to sell players first though innit .
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Postby rocky29 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:28 pm

stmichael wrote:
rocky29 wrote:ll say it again in the whole wide world there is isnt a striker we could and still get on loan. You lot talk the same sh'ite day in day out.

just a question. how old are you?

dont make im the childish one you lot just go over the same stupid stuff your all like old grannies at a tea and scone evening. I offer solutions and no fecker listens
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Postby Benny The Noon » Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:29 pm

What is this pic in a number of peoples signature ?
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