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[laza]

While situation is dire I see no point in sacking a manager so early into the season.
I also shudder if a legend like Kenny has to try steady this ship while we stuck on this maggot infested reef that is Hicks and Gillette

[LFC2007]

This is all so predicatable, not just with Hodgson, but with Allardyce (Newcastle), Hughes (City), Hodgson (Blackburn), Johl (Tottenham), teams that had Manager's who were pertantly not up to the job of Managing a Big Club, who were also totally out of their depth.

Three of those aren't particularly good examples. Newcastle were a midtable club at the time of Allardyce's appointment, they were during it, they were after it....and soon thereafter after got relegated after fecking about with the managers. Man City were geared to challenge for fourth under Hughes and he delivered. Jol took a decade-long midtable club to fifth, twice in a row, and very nearly Champions League qualification. Hodgson's time at Blackburn on the other hand is the biggest blot on his managerial record, a fact I readily accepted as a concern before his appointment, however, we only ever really expected to make ourselves contenders for the top four.....rather than challenging for major honours as would be befitting of a "big club".

[alxy]

He was just supposed to hold the fort until we got new owners, but now it looks as if he can't even do that. Fair enough, the ownership issue is beyond him. But he can't even get the players to at least LOOK as if they are actually interested in playing the game. Look at all the faces yesterday, none of them had that "I'm happy to be playing" and "I believe we can win" look. We were defeated already before kick-off.

So yes, he needs to be sacked before we get dragged too far into the relegation battle. Losing to Man U at Old Trafford was a bitter pill to swallow, but from a footballing viewpoint, still an understandable result. Losing to Northhampton at Anfield with a 2nd string team in the League Cup.... OK, forgivable...... BUT losing to Blackpool (no disrespect to them) at Anfield with your first choice team? UNACCEPTABLE! WE ARE LIVERPOOL!!!!

Replacement? Not Kenny. I'd want Kenny to come in at a time when he can actually win us the Premiership, and not just try to fight for a Europa League qualifying position. Which won't be until the owners have gone. Martin O'Neil could be the answer. I see him as better equipped than Roy to motivate the players and at least bring us to a decent fighting position.

If we continue at this rate, we'll lose Torres, Pepe, and who knows who else in January.

Oh well, worst case, at least Roy has experience in fighting relegation battles.....

[eds]

And finally the little lemmings are all coming to the realisation of what only a handful of forum members on here had worked out a few months ago.......

That the club is doomed unless we get in a world class manager in BUT more importantly we NEED to get rid of the cancer that has spread at our club. I for one don't real care about the results anymore, it was always going to go pear shaped when we hired a manager that just simply isn't at the quality that this club demands, its that simple really.

Mark my words, I have been saying this all year long, and from what I recall only a few agreed with me a few months ago, our club is well and truly up s**t creek without a paddle. Filth at the helm + no investment + an ordinary coach + medicore players = mid-table obscurity, if not worse.

This is 2010, not 1960, you simply don't stroll in and expect to do well or "steady the f**kin ship" because of past history / reputation. F**k i am really getting angry at hearing that f**king lemming term. Many of you are so blinded by the fact that the reason why we have fallen so badly, is because of our ignorance and inability to unite against a common cause, to NOT put up with MEDIOCRITY, to NOT put up with bad management and TO not put up with diabolical results! Yet the lemmings, still attend the games, "get behind" this rabble and shambles of a "club" and continue to buy merchandise that feeds the machine of debt and cause further instability. And they still come on this forum and debate trivial s**t, like what to call our manager, Woy or Roy, how about whogivesaf**kinsh**t you silly f**ks?

Our club has fallen on deeply troubling time and it is an absoulate joke to see the amount of green haired rodents that sit there smiling and clapping while we endure the pain of losing to dire teams, oblivious to the fact that we are on the precipice of OBLIVION! Only three years ago we challenged for mantle of being the greatest in Europe and now we seem to struggle against teams that we should be f**king burying 4 or 5 f**king nil.

This is more than Benitez, Woy of the Wodges, our players, our owners or even ourselves! It is about our club and indeed our soul, have some f**king dignity and pride, this is LIVERPOOL FC, the greatest club on the face of the planet. Don't just sit there and type profanities back at me, don’t waste your time, send them onto HOP ALONG HICKS AND THE SUNDANCE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, demanding “WHEN THE F**K ARE YOU SELLING AND GETTING THE F**K OUT OF HERE? ”

The worst thing I can imagine, is telling my kids in a few years time about the “good times” when we were Kings of Europe and how we “held the most titles in England” but  how it came to be that we are now laughing stocks, ala Leeds. I won’t be able to point the finger at anyone anymore, I will only be able to look in a mirror and point it at myself!

[maypaxvobiscum]

If for some inexplicable reason Mourinho left Madrid tomorrow and declared himself available for the Liverpool job, would anyone here want Roy sacked? Anyone at all?

only if Jose is Roy's replacement

[The Raven]

Screw it,

Oust the cancer, new men come in and sack roy.....Martin O jump up and down becomes our new man.

Cancer stays.. We lose to everton by 2 clear goals (which we will) he has to go and kenny can take over.

One way or another Roy is a dead duck

[Octsky]

i will give him the option of resigning.
anyway he is dead man walking, once the ownership changes. i think someone with a star name will come in to manage.

but i do appreciate RH's honesty and not Rafa " i think we played well, but lost due to bad refreeing" bullsh1t.

[burjennio]

And finally the little lemmings are all coming to the realisation of what only a handful of forum members on here had worked out a few months ago.......

Your so awesome, nothing brings people together like "I told you so"

How far up your own a*s do you have to be to post something like that?

[tel]

Sack him

Dalglish > O'Neill > Hodgson

[jacdaniel]

Roy needs to be sacked, preferably today so the new man will have some time over the international break to get settled.

Its not just the results that are bad, id sack him based on his tactics.  Them tactics will never work for a club with our targets.

I have the greatest respect for Rafa for putting up with 3 years of this sh.it and still having us up there.  Roy has 35 years experience and he just crumbled.  But i don't blame Roy... its not his fault he got the job.
And i hope Roy gets a more fitting job sooner than later.

If there is anything positive to take from this experience... its that now the anti Rafa brigade are starting to realise that maybe there was bigger issues all along.  Hopefully they will get more active in the campaigns against the owners now.

Another positive is that RBS will have to look at it and see that the yanks have took us from a Champions League Final and 82 points in the league to 17th in the PL and Europa League.

As for the new manager, it should be between kenny, pellegrini and MON.
But I think we'll hold onto Roy until Xmas and by then all our goals will have been missed.

[NANNY RED]

As far this with me being a superduper in the clique Rafa ar.se kissing match going protesting home and away wrist slasher goes , he should resign hold his hands up and say the job was bigger than i thought yeh i knew what i was getting myself into and i thought by adding a few players it would be steady but we would get there . its dead harder than Fulham,Malmo an a few other of then scandinavian teams being manager at this club, but ive decided to get me coat, Thats what he should say , and if we get done by the bitters and me being this superduper fan thinks if we play like we have the last couple of games will get f,ucking destroyed. Then as Roy walks off the pitch his coat should be handed to him ,

But then you have the problem of Purslow and Broughton who appointed him, theyd be fu.cking sick to lose face i mean these two who know so much about football and who is the right manager for this club .

So yeh this superduper clique wrist slasher didnt want Him at start and after what ive seen so far dont want him now. HES NOT FU.CKING GOOD ENOUGH FACT

[Reg]

So far that's Bav, Rob, Marc and Ruskiy who are at least being honest enough to admit they want to sack the manager. They definately aren't on their own, but not all will admit to it.

Mick, you're moved back into paranoid mode, back off and enjoy your day, are you trying to control opinion again? People other than yourself ARE allowed to think and have an opinion, even if it differs from your own. Tedious man, tedious.

[tubby]

Is anybody actually coming clean yet and saying they think Roy should be sacked, or are they all still hiding behind the cloak of superfanness?

Should Roy be sacked?

I don't think any manager has ever been 'sacked' by the club have they? He should walk away now before he does some real damage.

As to the thread topic it should be Kenny in charge. But I don't think he would want to take the job on full time, meaning passed this season. So once he is appointed the focus should be on getting the takeover situation resolved before next season at which point we get in someone else.

[bigmick]

Cheers Reg

Anyway it seems like the "sack him" crowd are probably in the majority, the "let him resign" are second, and the "give him more time" bunch are a rapidly dwindling sprinkle.

I actually think he will be sacked if we lose against Everton, and much more important than Roy Hodgson and/or who has the right to say "I told you so" is that ALL fans back whoever takes over from him from the off. I'm talking about properly backing them as well, not like the "backing" the current manager has recieved.
I'm absolutely convinced that until the supporters unite, the club will under-achieve.

[mart]

but i do appreciate RH's honesty and not Rafa " i think we played well, but lost due to bad refreeing" bullsh1t.

Honesty like "We created lots of chances and were unlucky not to win?"

On topic I dont really see the point in sacking Roy until we get new owners. Thats what we really need to turn this situation around.