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Reg wrote:Just woken up and seen the score.   Ffffffflipinn 'ek. 

Ciggy wrote:

Dundalk wrote:

Ciggy wrote:I have nothing more to say on the matter of Liverpool football club!!!!

Do you still back Rafa?

What Ive just been told rafa is the least of our problems, we are about to plummet into an oblivion 

An i feel sick, i feel like throwing up Cigg , im shacking here in anger

Dundalk wrote:When is the home leg?

Next week, just before...................................................the mancs on the SUNDAY - I guess they only play us on a Monday if a key player (rio) would be suspended on the Sunday *rolls eyes*

We were poor at the start, mediocre in the middle and let in a silly goal. I haven't read all posts, most seem to be more general than on the match, but I see the comments are still aimed at outfield players and no mention that Reina should have come for the ball.

Kuyt didn't have a great game overall, I think he tried to cover too much ground but did have a good spell in the first half when he was in the right half. Agree with views "he looked shot". Babel should have been shot, he looked a threat and just didn't convert that threat into anything. He wasted the one good one-on-one chance he had, can't fault him for the tackle which denied him another just before that I think it was. Also didn't he completely miss the ball when it came out from Torres' header?!? Ended up with Johnson too far out to be an immediate threat?

The only real plus for me last night was Torres, but given the space he had it was no surprise he ran at them and caused them problems. But supply to the front was lacking, thought Riera perhaps should have started with Babel coming on for him (Rafa special) or Torres. Gerrard was not great, the DMs and defence struggled early on to deal with Lille running at them so perhaps we should be thankful for it being only 0-1 which isn't actually the end of the world other than yet another defeat (15 defeats, only 19 wins this season) and it doesn't bode well for the rest of the season.

If we'd lost a European game away last season at the same time in the year it wouldn't be the end of the world, shows how much "progress" we're making and in which direction  I think most of us would settle for bailing out of this "competition", it's nothing more than emphasising our season's struggle and perhaps the sooner the season is over, the sooner the suffering will have ended and two or three issues will be sorted - where we finish, if the manager stays and who else stays.


I do also agree with whoever said the 4-5-1/4-3-3 isn't working anymore, but then did it really ever work with Lucas in it? He's not Alonso, supposedly Aquilani was going to play that kind of role, but that's not happening because Rafa is too stubborn or stupid. I am now more convinced than ever that Rafa cannot see past his own "tactical genius" and thinks that it isn't failing because it's square pegs in round holes, but because everything else is to blame - the players, refs etc. Why else would he continue with the same formation despite losing FIFTEEN games this season, and in only one of our cup games have we scored more than ONE goal which is pitiful.

We may end up consigned to Mondays one way or another, by virtue of more Euro Disney football next season, or if we aren't even in Europe then we may not be the team to watch as is becoming increasingly the case this season.

Dalglish wrote:You know it's bad when you sit there watching and wonder WTF is wrong  with Stevie G..............

In the past when his life has been dogged by Court Cases, Death Threats, Gangsters blackmailing his family, the Mrs shouting her gob off about why she doesn't like Liverpool anymore, the birth of his daughters and the other distractions that are part of the Soap that is professional sport these days  etc etc ..... He's always managed to produce it on the pitch but the man's gone invisible when we need him more than we have ever needed him !

OK in Istanbul we needed him...........

In Cardiff 2006 we needed him ..........


But these were Cup Finals which had we lost would have been disappointing to say the least and we would have been absolutely gutted but as a club at the moment we are on the precipice staring into the void and we need him to step up to the mark big time.

He's always been a complex character and it does make you wonder if he's already written off this season and is hoping for a change at the top. I sincerely hope not but to me he gives all the appearance of someone who has lost interest in the cause and is eyeing South Africa as his next meaningful goal !

Owzat wrote:Next week, just before...................................................the mancs on the SUNDAY - I guess they only play us on a Monday if a key player (rio) would be suspended on the Sunday *rolls eyes*

Reg wrote:From the Telegraph

Spanish press reaction: 'Goodbye Real Madrid, Goodbye Pellegrini'


Rafa's enjoyed remarkable support thus far but in all honesty... any other club in the world would give him the order of the boot after this season. How far can the manager and players stretch loyalty?

SouthCoastShankly wrote:

Owzat wrote:Next week, just before...................................................the mancs on the SUNDAY - I guess they only play us on a Monday if a key player (rio) would be suspended on the Sunday *rolls eyes*

Actually it is the police that enforce earlier kick off against Man Utd.

Last time we had an evening kick off against Man Utd there were a number of stabbings (2002 I think)

Owzat wrote:

SouthCoastShankly wrote:

Owzat wrote:Next week, just before...................................................the mancs on the SUNDAY - I guess they only play us on a Monday if a key player (rio) would be suspended on the Sunday *rolls eyes*

Actually it is the police that enforce earlier kick off against Man Utd.

Last time we had an evening kick off against Man Utd there were a number of stabbings (2002 I think)

Sunday is the traditional slot for us playing them, the thing is that was orchestrated so rio would be available - you will NEVER persuade me that being the first day he was available after his EIGHT MONTH suspension was a coincidence. 17/01/2004 vs Wolves then next game was 20/09/2004 vs Liverpool with him being unavailable on 19/09/2004