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Postby mistyred » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:54 pm

heimdall wrote:I notice that nobody actually offered an explanation to my question of how rafa is a tactical genius, not that anyone ever has answered that one.

Rafa is the most overrated manager in the world, he has little grasp of tactics or certainly how to change them mid game, feck all knowledge of how to motivate, fecking useless at transfers and makes a pr1ck of himself in almost every press conference.

In short he needs to pick up his Sombrero and feck off, and if any players want to join him they are more than welcome too!!  :veryangry

Rafa picks the players(both in terms of transfer and team sheet) and instructs them, so if they all play sh1t then it is of course down to him, stop making damned excuses for him!!

So you like Rafa then  :laugh:
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Postby stmichael » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:06 pm

the substitutions once again were completely baffling last night. once again we ended up with our two biggest goal threats off the pitch. to say gerrard was "tired" is absolute garbage. what the hell is keane supposed to do in 7 minutes?
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Postby tonyeh » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:31 pm

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heimdall wrote:I notice that nobosy actually offered an explanation to my question of how rafa is a tactical genius, not htat anyone has ever answered that one.

Rafa is the most overrated manager in the world, he has little grasp of tactics, feck all knowledge of how to motivate, fecking useless at transfers and makes a pr1ck of himself in almost every press conference.

in short he needs to pick up his Sombrero and feck off, and if any players want to join him they are more than welcome too!!  :veryangry

Rafa picks the players(both interms of transfer and team sheet) and instructs them, so if they all play sh1t then it is of course down to him, stop making damned excuses for him!!

Look at the CL final where he brought on Didi to see a master tactitcian (ok, some said he should have always started it)

Rafa is football, he eats sleeps and drinks it. Slag off his decisions if you like, but to say he has no good tactics is naive.

As for thje sombrero talk, thought you were better than that mate

He changed a couple of guys around and got lucky in Istanbul, nothing more.

There were no tactics or strategies at play.

He's certainly been exposed this season as no tactician, especially where subs are concerned. Last night was absurd and so was the Everton game.

Some of our players may need to up their game, but it's Raphael Benitez that is in serious need of sitting down and reflecting on what HE is doing wrong this year...and change it.
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Postby GYBS » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:36 pm

did he not also instruct gerrard to play right back to nulify the threat of serginho as well ?  he changed the make up and the way we played in the second half - so changed the tactics to nulify kaka.
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Postby dawson99 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:38 pm

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heimdall wrote:I notice that nobosy actually offered an explanation to my question of how rafa is a tactical genius, not htat anyone has ever answered that one.

Rafa is the most overrated manager in the world, he has little grasp of tactics, feck all knowledge of how to motivate, fecking useless at transfers and makes a pr1ck of himself in almost every press conference.

in short he needs to pick up his Sombrero and feck off, and if any players want to join him they are more than welcome too!!  :veryangry

Rafa picks the players(both interms of transfer and team sheet) and instructs them, so if they all play sh1t then it is of course down to him, stop making damned excuses for him!!

Look at the CL final where he brought on Didi to see a master tactitcian (ok, some said he should have always started it)

Rafa is football, he eats sleeps and drinks it. Slag off his decisions if you like, but to say he has no good tactics is naive.

As for thje sombrero talk, thought you were better than that mate

He changed a couple of guys around and got lucky in Istanbul, nothing more.

There were no tactics or strategies at play.

He's certainly been exposed this season as no tactician, especially where subs are concerned. Last night was absurd and so was the Everton game.

Some of our players may need to up their game, but it's Raphael Benitez that is in serious need of sitting down and reflecting on what HE is doing wrong this year...and change it.

Of course there were strategies, he changed to 3 at the back allowing Stevie to push further up the pitch as Didi and Alonso swept up the problems...
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Postby tonyeh » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:42 pm

Big deal.

One could say it was Rafa's "tactics" that saw Liverpool down 3 goals at half time.

Istanbul was a great night, but I seriously doubt that Benitez had an awful lot to do with the lads getting back into the game.

He changed a few guys around and hoped for the best, that's all. And that seems to be Benitez's main team selection and subs.

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Postby GYBS » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:45 pm

Big deal ? his tactics enabled us to get back into the game and then go on to win the greatest CL final ever - to me thats a bloody big deal . Suggest you read both carra and gerrards book where they both suggest it was rafa who got them back into it during half time - it was his calm nature an the way he spoke to them and the changes he made that got them back into it .
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Postby The Red Baron » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:50 pm

Liverpool are :censored:.Lets not kid ourselves we have been :censored: for years and will remain :censored: for the foreseeable future.The board are :censored:, the managers :censored: and the players are :censored:.If you cant see it wipe the :censored: from your eyes.
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Postby Effes » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:52 pm

dawson99 wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
dawson99 wrote:
heimdall wrote:I notice that nobosy actually offered an explanation to my question of how rafa is a tactical genius, not htat anyone has ever answered that one.

Rafa is the most overrated manager in the world, he has little grasp of tactics, feck all knowledge of how to motivate, fecking useless at transfers and makes a pr1ck of himself in almost every press conference.

in short he needs to pick up his Sombrero and feck off, and if any players want to join him they are more than welcome too!!  :veryangry

Rafa picks the players(both interms of transfer and team sheet) and instructs them, so if they all play sh1t then it is of course down to him, stop making damned excuses for him!!

Look at the CL final where he brought on Didi to see a master tactitcian (ok, some said he should have always started it)

Rafa is football, he eats sleeps and drinks it. Slag off his decisions if you like, but to say he has no good tactics is naive.

As for thje sombrero talk, thought you were better than that mate

He changed a couple of guys around and got lucky in Istanbul, nothing more.

There were no tactics or strategies at play.

He's certainly been exposed this season as no tactician, especially where subs are concerned. Last night was absurd and so was the Everton game.

Some of our players may need to up their game, but it's Raphael Benitez that is in serious need of sitting down and reflecting on what HE is doing wrong this year...and change it.

Of course there were strategies, he changed to 3 at the back allowing Stevie to push further up the pitch as Didi and Alonso swept up the problems...

Finnan was injured at half time.. his hand was forced......
just thought I'd let you know.
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Postby GYBS » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:53 pm

Not :censored: - just not good enough to win the league in recent years
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Postby dawson99 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:53 pm

Effes wrote:
dawson99 wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
dawson99 wrote:
heimdall wrote:I notice that nobosy actually offered an explanation to my question of how rafa is a tactical genius, not htat anyone has ever answered that one.

Rafa is the most overrated manager in the world, he has little grasp of tactics, feck all knowledge of how to motivate, fecking useless at transfers and makes a pr1ck of himself in almost every press conference.

in short he needs to pick up his Sombrero and feck off, and if any players want to join him they are more than welcome too!!  :veryangry

Rafa picks the players(both interms of transfer and team sheet) and instructs them, so if they all play sh1t then it is of course down to him, stop making damned excuses for him!!

Look at the CL final where he brought on Didi to see a master tactitcian (ok, some said he should have always started it)

Rafa is football, he eats sleeps and drinks it. Slag off his decisions if you like, but to say he has no good tactics is naive.

As for thje sombrero talk, thought you were better than that mate

He changed a couple of guys around and got lucky in Istanbul, nothing more.

There were no tactics or strategies at play.

He's certainly been exposed this season as no tactician, especially where subs are concerned. Last night was absurd and so was the Everton game.

Some of our players may need to up their game, but it's Raphael Benitez that is in serious need of sitting down and reflecting on what HE is doing wrong this year...and change it.

Of course there were strategies, he changed to 3 at the back allowing Stevie to push further up the pitch as Didi and Alonso swept up the problems...

Finnan was injured at half time.. his hand was forced......
just thought I'd let you know.

not forced for the 3 at the back though, Rafa has a cool head, we gotta have faith
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Postby The Red Baron » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:54 pm

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Postby GYBS » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:56 pm

Effes wrote:
dawson99 wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
dawson99 wrote:
heimdall wrote:I notice that nobosy actually offered an explanation to my question of how rafa is a tactical genius, not htat anyone has ever answered that one.

Rafa is the most overrated manager in the world, he has little grasp of tactics, feck all knowledge of how to motivate, fecking useless at transfers and makes a pr1ck of himself in almost every press conference.

in short he needs to pick up his Sombrero and feck off, and if any players want to join him they are more than welcome too!!  :veryangry

Rafa picks the players(both interms of transfer and team sheet) and instructs them, so if they all play sh1t then it is of course down to him, stop making damned excuses for him!!

Look at the CL final where he brought on Didi to see a master tactitcian (ok, some said he should have always started it)

Rafa is football, he eats sleeps and drinks it. Slag off his decisions if you like, but to say he has no good tactics is naive.

As for thje sombrero talk, thought you were better than that mate

He changed a couple of guys around and got lucky in Istanbul, nothing more.

There were no tactics or strategies at play.

He's certainly been exposed this season as no tactician, especially where subs are concerned. Last night was absurd and so was the Everton game.

Some of our players may need to up their game, but it's Raphael Benitez that is in serious need of sitting down and reflecting on what HE is doing wrong this year...and change it.

Of course there were strategies, he changed to 3 at the back allowing Stevie to push further up the pitch as Didi and Alonso swept up the problems...

Finnan was injured at half time.. his hand was forced......
just thought I'd let you know.

but he was already going to make a change at half time and was bringing traore off .
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Postby heimdall » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:58 pm

GYBS wrote:Not :censored: - just not good enough to win the league in recent years

At the moment we are cr@p compared to Manure and in fact most other teams in the league and that is what hurts.

BTW 05 CL wa down to Stevie G a hell of a lot more than it was Rafa but I will agree that Rafa is smart in Champions league football but why can't he translate that to the prem even after 5 bloody tedious years of dull uninspiring football.
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Postby THEBARON » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:01 pm

It could be argued that he got it wrong in both the Champions League finals..
2005 - Starting with Kewell and leaving out Hamann
2007 - Leaving Couch on the bench.
At the moment his substitutions are predictable and ineffective. The substitutions against Everton in the league helped the opposition.
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