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Postby 115-1073096938 » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:12 am

7_Kewell wrote:i think glory fans are good....they spend money on club merchandise and occasionally buy a ticket...then leave when bored.  It's all money in the end of the day

You're the perfect person to comment on that aswell. :)
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Postby vlady16.1 » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:31 am

well this is the price of being really good

you get the bandwagon fans who just don't get it-- lose 3 games - not good not end of world -- rafa will make it all go away

just remember when we were happy just to get in the uefa cup -- i do -- now i savour the victories

let the bandwagoners go -- its like my girlfriend -- she knows little of the game but now likes chelsea ( oi) cos crespo is cute -- nuff said
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Postby The Manhattan Project » Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:49 am

"I think the wheels have well and truly fallen off. I used to support Fulham and changed to Liverpool as I was sick of losing every week! I guess that backfired! I haven't felt this down since half time in the Champions League Final. With a bit more effort from the boys I'm sure we can turn things around. If not I'll be dusting off my old Fulham shirt!"

Hank, Fulham


Good.

Go :censored: off to Craven Cottage then.

Back to that crummy little shed you call a stadium.
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Postby drummerphil » Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:21 am

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Sabre wrote:This is the kind of thing that písses u off when you're a foreigner. Why do you find funny the name Hank? because it's similar to Wánk? please, explain me :D

HANK :D  it sounds like he's an american who wears one of those hats with the clapping hands and sits there grinning like a retarded monkey shouting "go soccer, go soccer" whilst he munches his corporate hotdog  :D

either that or he's from a farm in kentucky and f*cks pigs for kicks every weekend :oh:

:D ...woolly  you thought along the same lines as me.......

Fecking Hank......all american soccer twát............. :laugh:
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Postby jonnymac1979 » Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:19 am

Robbie Fowler is Back wrote:
drummerphil wrote:We lose 3 games and draw one we are distinctly average will be lucky to finish in the top 4 .......

Its  not unlike some  people on here who change their opinions on the team and individual players every other day......

personally its all giving me a headache and i for one back Rafa 100 per cent.We cant run before we can walk........

ynwa

I think you are missing the point.

The target this year was to win the league, after such a good run in the European cup final last season. Even Carra/ Rafa and Stevie Said so at the start of the season.

People are just dispaointed hugely, when we are drawing / losing versus teams we should be easily putting away.

People should be allowed to criticise/ make comments if things are not going well.

Im betting the only reason you support LFC is because they were successful in the 80's.

But would you support someone like stockport county through thick and thin, even if they get pasted every week? ???

Liverpool FC is about winning, it is almost a tradition. Just like the guards at the tower of London.

And losing to teams lke Chelsea and Man Utd recently is far more than just football...it's about PRIDE!

Get it! ?

People who are angry and want to express it after we lose to such teams are expressing thier anger as they have pride!

PS. CAn I ask why people back Rafa 100% (apart from being and LFC fan) , when they dont know what the future will bring. we may never win  the league under Rafa. it could happen.

Over the next two weeks, we could be out of the race for second, out of the FA cup, and out of the CL , if we dont buck up our ideas.

:veryangry  :veryangry

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Postby BOODIDDY » Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:27 am

its so hard for rafa inint. When he came the fans realised he neded time after houlliers last years.

He goes and wins the biggest club comp in the world and everyone wants the league next and straight away. The fact is that the european cup is a competition that lends itself to a number of teams winning it due to the set up.

I loved istanbul and im patient to know that the prem with chelsea power at the moment is probably the hardest thing to win in the world (apart fromthe lottery). Without chelseas power we would have a chance and a better league. But let me put this to you all: If the champ league format was a league over the season do you think the likes of porto, ourselves, monaco and valencia etc would have a chance of winning it. I'd say no.

Rafa has created a monster imo due to his success. I ask you all to give him time (poss another 4 years) before he brings home number 19.
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Postby zarababe » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:16 pm

Robbie Fowler is Back wrote:I think you are missing the point.

The target this year was to win the league, after such a good run in the European cup final last season. Even Carra/ Rafa and Stevie Said so at the start of the season.

:laugh:  :D this is the funniest bit of sh*t I have read on here for a while..

BTW I see Stu's got his colour blocks back.. what's been happenin  :D
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Postby metalhead » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:51 pm

Robbie Fowler is Back wrote:
drummerphil wrote:We lose 3 games and draw one we are distinctly average will be lucky to finish in the top 4 .......

Its  not unlike some  people on here who change their opinions on the team and individual players every other day......

personally its all giving me a headache and i for one back Rafa 100 per cent.We cant run before we can walk........

ynwa

I think you are missing the point.

The target this year was to win the league, after such a good run in the European cup final last season. Even Carra/ Rafa and Stevie Said so at the start of the season.

People are just dispaointed hugely, when we are drawing / losing versus teams we should be easily putting away.

People should be allowed to criticise/ make comments if things are not going well.

Im betting the only reason you support LFC is because they were successful in the 80's.

But would you support someone like stockport county through thick and thin, even if they get pasted every week? ???

Liverpool FC is about winning, it is almost a tradition. Just like the guards at the tower of London.

And losing to teams lke Chelsea and Man Utd recently is far more than just football...it's about PRIDE!

Get it! ?

People who are angry and want to express it after we lose to such teams are expressing thier anger as they have pride!

PS. CAn I ask why people back Rafa 100% (apart from being and LFC fan) , when they dont know what the future will bring. we may never win  the league under Rafa. it could happen.

Over the next two weeks, we could be out of the race for second, out of the FA cup, and out of the CL , if we dont buck up our ideas.

:veryangry  :veryangry

we lose 2 games in a week and we get this..FFS!!!!
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Postby redmikey » Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:56 pm

there are enough bandwagon fans on here that we should have our own mardi gras.

GETTING agrip would be nice. we are a far better set up team at the moment with a manager who is looking for good young talent far and wide. to improve and replace people as they get to slow or complacent for first team football.

Three games don't make a season lads win or lose.
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Postby mighty mo » Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:01 pm

i cannot believe some fans are questioning in rafa should still be boss,that is totally dumbfounding,these "people"haven't got a :censored: clue!
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Postby Butters11 » Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:24 pm

vlady16.1 wrote:let the bandwagoners go -- its like my girlfriend -- she knows little of the game but now likes chelsea ( oi) cos crespo is cute -- nuff said


Hahahaha what can you say to that.  Although I have to say Hernan is one of a kind... in front of goal that is!  :;):
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Postby drummerphil » Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:53 pm

drummerphil wrote:I've just been on the Sky sports website and  on their main football page they have a question.......

Is Liverpools form a blip or a crisis........this is one of the replies...

"I think the wheels have well and truly fallen off. I used to support Fulham and changed to Liverpool as I was sick of losing every week! I guess that backfired! I haven't felt this down since half time in the Champions League Final. With a bit more effort from the boys I'm sure we can turn things around. If not I'll be dusting off my old Fulham shirt!"
Hank, Fulham


now i dont know about you but i find that a :censored: disgrace from a so called fickle fan.....

Its amazing how the media change their tune too......

First couple of months of the season  we are a joke and so undeserving to be European champions..

We go on a run win 10 games on the bounce and we are a title threat,2nd best team in the country and are looking like the real deal and great european champions....

We lose 3 games and draw one we are distinctly average will be lucky to finish in the top 4 .......

Its  not unlike some  people on here who change their opinions on the team and individual players every other day......

personally its all giving me a headache and i for one back Rafa 100 per cent.We cant run before we can walk........

ynwa

I tell you what,apart from the blatent idiots who come on here,We seem to have inherited alot of fair weather fans since May.Alot of the time on here people are falling out with each other because of it.
How many long term people on here can name 1 or 2 members on here who only come on when we lose.......its a bloody joke.
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Postby gato_busta » Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:04 pm

I just think its funny that people go support any winning team. when a team looses you stop supporting it? I always thought defeat makes victory sweeter. I remeber last season games like chelsea at home in the CL and Arsenal at home in the PL. Both were great games and what made the victory so special was that they were the "best teams".

When we beat arsenal it was a team that had gone was it 40 games without loosing (that is until machester beat them)?. When we beat chelsea they were first in the league and favorites to go to the CL final. It's great to support the winning team but IMO its better to see the team win with a challenge.
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Postby Sabre » Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:46 pm

I always thought defeat makes victory sweeter


And shows real supporters. The name "supporters" says it all. It's like friendship. When you have lots of money you always have tons of friends, when you have problems, true friends appear.

Same applies to football. When we won 2 ligas RS had lots of supporters, but it's true that not all the supporters that become supporters when you win are band wagon supporters. Most of the RS supporters through out Spain (not in San Sebastian) are 30-40 years old. They were very young or child when RS won, but the victory against all might Madrid and Barcelona impressed them so much, that 20 years later they are true RS supporters and go to the matches away. That's my case with Liverpool. We won 2 leagues, I was a RS supporter we were the best of Spain. But we had to play in Europe (all that was new to me) and they were times that Liverpool were the king of Europe. When you consider your team the best of Spain and you reach the semifinals, but then there's a team called Liverpool that causes awe through Europe, you're impressed and you start loving that team due to his football. That was the first glance love. Then when Tosh and Aldo came in the mid-late eighties it started my true love. My point, not *every* "victory joining" supporter is bad. But it's true many forget about the team when they don't watch winning them any more.

About defeats, I'd say defeats are a key to watch what kind of supporter you are.

I have walk off Anoeta many times with a defeat. I live near the stadium and you walk the way home silent, with other mates beside you also silent. There's some comradeship in that silence. Bus and trains are also silent after a defeat. There's that speechless communication with that silence, because you are all supporters. Next goal of your team in next matc and you hug that unknown supporter that you shared the silence with, the last week.

Of course there are other that are very angry and shout, and others that are violent and kicks the trash bin, but then, football is a pretext for them to do that . Not true supporters.

I'd love to hear Dalglish and other mate's insight about how is the atmosphere of defeat in Anfield. Because let's face it, defeats are part of every club's life, in Liverpool that doesn't happen that often, but it happens. :)
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Postby drummerphil » Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:02 pm

Sabre i've seen many defeats at Anfield over the years but in the 70's and 80,s if we lost we were winning so often,a loss was very much a shock and fans including myself, were never that depressed about it, because you could almost guarantee that the next game we would win.In the Souness era i personally found it hard to take because we had been on top for so long and it seemed as though it was falling apart big style.I can honestly say i was more depressed under Souness whilst at Anfield than any other time in going there.
As the 90's   progressed i suppose the younger fans who had not seen our immense success in its full started to get use to many false dawns but older fans like me were becoming quite depressed at seeing the Rise of the Mancs....
When we won 5 trophies in a calender year under Houllier although it was great, expectation levels were high that we would go on,the pattern and style of play that came with it and after i found at times so very frustrating.The same thing can be said now about Rafa and in an odd way Winning the european cup in his first season will do him no favours with a lot of fair weather fans, if we dont win it again or the title within 12 months.Personally whether he never wins anything again i will eternally thank him for making me feel like i did in the 70's and 80's when such feelings were common place.
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