This 4-5-1 malarchy - We can't play this at home

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Postby stmichael » Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:15 pm

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stmichael wrote:it's a 4-2-3-1 really. the problem is though that zenden and garcia don't have the pace to get in and support the lone striker. in this system the ideal two players to have in the wide areas would be kewell (if playing well) and FSP. just look at the arsenal game at anfield last season.

How do you see it Saint? Sissko Kid n Xabi, or Sissko kid n Gerrard in the 2, Gerrard/Xabi, Zenden  (as you said, Kewell)and Garcia (FSP) in the 3?

Never in a million years did we need 3 CMs yesterday, but somehow i just knew that's how Rafa was going to play it. Having said that it's got to be quite hard to leave any of them out, because they're probably our 3 best players right now!

Lets be honest though, in that formation Stevie spends far more time attacking than defending so in truth its a 4-2-3-1 formation. The key to that formation is wingers that will hold their position and stretch the game to occupy the fullbacks but at the moment we dont have that. Zenden and Garcia don't have the pace to do so and also tend to drift inwards a lot.

Im sure Gonzalez was penciled in to play a big part in home games and lets all hope Harry can do soemthing, Rafa has acknowledged the need for a right winger and if the right player is brought in expect the team and that formation to look much more attacking.

That said we could have easily won 3-0 yesterday and if we had would be getting these same posts about worrying about a lack of goals?
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Postby A.B. » Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:20 pm

Why can't we play 4-5-1 at home? We created enough chances to score more than one goal so it's not the system that is preventing us from scoring goals, it's the players finishing.
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Postby dosserboy » Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:31 pm

A.B. wrote:Why can't we play 4-5-1 at home? We created enough chances to score more than one goal so it's not the system that is preventing us from scoring goals, it's the players finishing.

I totaly agree there A.B.

When you look at it more closely, it was more of a 4-2-3-1 formation, Sissoko and Alonso were the 2, Gerrard Zenden and Cisse the 3 and Nando the 1. It was able to quickly revert to a 4-5-1 formation when necessary (which wasn't that often) due to the pace and Energy of G,Z & C.
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Postby A.B. » Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:19 pm

Whether we play 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 we are capable of creating chances to score but what has let us down in the past two games is taking the chances to score. Most people think that the system is preventing us from scoring goals when it's not.
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Postby gary106 » Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:27 pm

A.B. wrote:Whether we play 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 we are capable of creating chances to score but what has let us down in the past two games is taking the chances to score. Most people think that the system is preventing us from scoring goals when it's not.

i have to totally agree there. in both games we created chances and just havnt scored them so the system does work (so far) 2 games, 2 clean sheets, i know only 1 goal but a host of chances
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Postby Luis Garcia » Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:11 am

We should have bought edgar davids for 2 seasons. he looked good to me.

Owen aint coming back so dont get yer hopes up.

Dirk Kuyt is a better bet with the Baros money. 29  goals last season.
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Postby A.B. » Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:16 am

Dirk Kuyt is a better bet with the Baros money. 29  goals last season.


29 goals scored in the Dutch League not in the Premiership you numpty. Kuyt is not a proven Premiership striker, Owen is.

Might I remind you that Kezman had a hell of a goal scoring record for PSV, where the fuck is he now? In Spain, playing for Atletico Madrid.
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