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by **SouthCoastShankly** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:37 pm

So we currently lie 13th, with 26 points. The nearest European place is 5th, currently Tottenham with 37 points. Leaving us 11 points adrift.

Taking into account of awful away form and the fact that change doesn't happen overnight even with a legend at the helm, how far could we realistically climb?

Home Games
Fulham
Stoke
Wigan
Man Utd
Man City
Birmingham
Newcastle
Tottenham

Away Games
Wolves
Chelsea
West Ham
Sunderland
West Brom
Arsenal
Fulham
Aston Villa

Being realistic you could say that we would pick up 17 points at home -

Wins - Fulham, Stoke, Wigan, Birmingham, Newcastle
Lose - Man Utd
Draw - Man City, Tottenham

and 16 points away -

Wins - Wolves, West Ham, Sunderland, West Brom, Fulham
Lose - Arsenal, Chelsea
Draw - Aston Villa

Accumulating another 33 points would put us on 59 points. Previous 3 seasons this has been enough for -

2007-08 - 7th
2008-09 - 7th
2009-10 - 9th

I guess the question is how far Kenny can turn things round and whether our transfer activity can salvage any more points?

by **Zidane** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:42 pm

Best I see us doing is top 7, but even that is going to be hard. We need it though we can't go into next season being completely out of both European leagues imo.

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:45 pm

I guess then the question is whether we divert resource to the Europa league in an effort to win it and qualify automatically next season.

by **jacdaniel** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:52 pm

Europe is a must! Im sure Plan A is to qualify and sign some players in the summer. If we fail? We'll have much less chance of attracting/keeping top players.

We'll have to cut our squad size back quite a bit if we dont qualify for Europe. We cant have 20+ players for one game a week.

PS: Don't 5th and 6th qualify for Europa?

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:17 pm

No only, 5th place in the league qualify for the Europa League. The League Cup and FA Cup winners fill the other places.

by **RedSi35** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:09 pm

Out of those 16 games? i think we can realistically ( based on current form ) win about 9 of these
Home
Fulham
Stoke
Wigan
Birmingham

Away
Wolves
Westham
Westbrom
Fulham
Villa

Throw in maybe 4 draws and that gives us 31 points. Even now that looks a million miles away from acheivable

57 points in total !

The past 6/7 seasons, to get to 5th place a team has had to accumulate 60+ points

by **crazyhorse** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:33 pm

The way this season has gone so far, with teams taking points off each other unexpectedley all the time I anticipate 60 points being close to a top 6 finish..

by **OneHotRed** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:41 pm

Sorry, but being realistic, and going on this seasons performances we are going to get nowhere near the points figure your banding about, the games we are expected to win arent bankers at all, every one of them will be a tough match, I think this season we will finish around 12th (and then next season after a cash injection and a new team, watch us fly up the league)

by **lakes10** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:43 pm

yes if you are going for a top 6 spot you need 60 points...will we get that, in my view no, but we will just be short. but going by the way the points have been spread this year with the other teams i think 56 point might just get 5th spot.
that is very low for the prem but to win it this year i think its only going to be in the mid 70's

by **LFC2007** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:12 pm

No higher than 6th and no lower than 10th.

FWIW, if Arsenal win the League Cup and finish in the top five, another Europa League place would be free. Less likely, but the same will also be true if Man City win the Europa League and finish in the top five. The fair play rankings provide another entry route. Win it and we also qualify.

by **Roger Red Hat** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:14 pm

16 games left = 48 points up for grabs.

current points = 26 + 48 = 74 points.

74 points is enough to finish 1st this season

fuk all the talk about 12th :laugh:

by **Bermenstein** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:28 pm

If we loose against Wolves on Saturday, it will be just about survival this season. It will be a new sort of pressure most of these players will not have experienced before, except for maybe Konchesky. So these delusions of grandeur finishing top 6 maybe way off the mark.

I really hope Kenny can galvanise the players as there is such a feel good factor with him back in the hot seat.

by **Steve Crooks** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:51 pm

Optimistic forecast - 49 pts - Finish 12th (ish)
Pessimistic forecast - You don't wanna know... :help

by **Penguins** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:00 pm

5 away wins out of eight??? :suspect:

What have you been drinking or smoking?

If we win 3 away I would be surprised...
I'd say we will win maybe 6-7 games, not more and end up 9th or 10th.

It is time to accept there won't be som major miracale turnaround in this season.

by **lakes10** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:10 pm

ok using the bbc thing

tried to keep it real as i could........but it was a bit hard lo

have a go yourself

[URL=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/predictor/default.stm]bbc footbal link[/URL

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