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Typical over-reaction from certain quarters...

Yes we were poor. That happens to teams you know - it's not a new thing exclusive to Rafa Benitez.

"So and so should have started..." - are these ramblings coming from the same people who were banging on about our rotation now being "class for class"?

Hmmm.... We got a point today, at a venue where the reigning champs got a point. At a venue where we lost last season.

Now - grow up and stop spitting out the dummy, dummies.

probably aimed at me without you reading the whole thread, i said at the start i thought we were strong enough to win this, however with hindsight rafa got the selection wrong, we did swap class with class but today we underperformed, whether thats down to the changes or just an off day who knows.
maybe with torres and gerrard on the result would have been the same, who knows.

but i have read the whole thread and not seen an over reaction from anyone, maybe you think a slight criticism is an over reaction

And maybe I was referring to others...

Fact is, people can't ar*se-kiss Rafa one week, then basically insult his intelligence and understanding of the game the next.

Here's a novel thought that seems to have bypassed the majority of this forum:

Rather than "Rafa got it wrong", how about "Redknapp got it right"?

It seems to me that people think everything that happens on a football field is down to Rafa, but folks need to realise that there are others involved.

If that was aimed at me mate, I normally defend Rafa (even against Sheff U last season) but I am struggling to see any positives from his team selection today.

Portsmouth were there for the taking today and we blew it.

[The_Rock]

This isn't such a bad result.....but manure winning at eversh1t and arsenal looking like winning at spurs makes it feel pretty bad......

[woof woof !]

Typical over-reaction from certain quarters...

Yes we were poor. That happens to teams you know - it's not a new thing exclusive to Rafa Benitez.

"So and so should have started..." - are these ramblings coming from the same people who were banging on about our rotation now being "class for class"?

Hmmm.... We got a point today, at a venue where the reigning champs got a point. At a venue where we lost last season.

Now - grow up and stop spitting out the dummy, dummies.

If we'd started with the team we finished with we would've sown up the game in the first half while Portsmouth were still playing "Rope a Dope" .

Stick to hurling abuse Lando , they're more amusing and make more sense than your footy analysis.

Is that right? It makes more sense that the ramblings I've read so far.

Still - here I was thinking that fickle attitudes and emotional posts were those that made the least sense...

So whadya think ?

Rafa was right with his starting 11 ?

You don't think that starting with Torres instead of Crouch/Voronin or Gerrard instead of Sissoko would have made a difference ?

[AB's Red Army]

Really?

Utd couldn't do it last year, they got beaten 2-1.
Utd couldn't do it this year either.

Arsenal haven't won there in 2 or 3 years as far as I can remember.

Why do fans always use other teams’ results? Who cares what Utd have gotten this season or last season from the fixture? The important issue here is capitalising on our rival’s mistakes. If Utd drop points at Fratton Park, Liverpool must ensure they collect maximum points from the same fixture. It makes a world of difference come the end of the season.

Because our fans talk about as if we have the focking divine right to win every game.

And the hypocrisy,lack of perspective is unreal.

5 games in, a game in hand, we're unbeaten, and we're in a good position so far.

You don't win the league in the first five games.

[112-1077774096]

Hmmm.... We got a point today, at a venue where the reigning champs got a point. At a venue where we lost last season.

its quotes like this that let you down, so what? we lost there last season, the mancs drew there this season.

so what?   so we have to be grateful for a point when we should be celebrating 3 points against a team that has won one game all season.

its not relevant what other teams do there, or what we did there last season.

what is relevant is what happened today and today we were p*ss poor, and as supporters we have the right to comment on this, just as we have the right to comment when we play well, thats not being fickle mate, thats being honest

[Lando_Griffin]

ah the fickle word springs up again, and again used totally out of context,

Well why don't you explain it then so there's no confusion?

[mighty mo]

to be honest i am quite happy with a draw there, if you said to me before the game it would be 0-0 with a weakened team i would have grabbed that, we are still unbeaten and still in the mix at the top so its all good

[AB's Red Army]

Grimly Fiendish where the f#ck is your response ''pigsh.t'' as you so kindly put it.

Muppet.

[112-1077774096]

3-1 arsenal

[Leonidas08]

Next 3 EPL games:

Birmingham - Home - HAVE TO WIN
WIGAN - Away - HAVE TO WIN
Spurs - Home - Must win game

[Grimly Fiendish]

2pts pi.ssed away today. You rest your best players in games like our next home game against shi.te like Birmingham not games that you know will be tough like Pompey away.
FFS! Grim 

How many top four sides have come to Upton park in the last three seasons and won? Full strength or not?

Answer on a postcard mate.

Upton Park!
In the last 2 seasons
Chelsea have won there twice, United, Spurs, Everton and us have all won there too.

Are you realy as thick as pigsh.it or are you just pretending?
You can send me your answer on a postcard mate. 

Keyword: top four.

Since when were Everton and Spurs in the top four?

We lost to Pompey last season and obviously we failed to win this year.

United lost to Pompey last season and they didn't win the year before either. They drew this season.

Arsenal have not beaten them in the last two seasons there.

Only Chelsea out of the TOP FOUR have won there.

Dip .

Chelsea beat them in the last two seasons, United beat them the season before last as did we, the only TOP FOUR team not to win there in the past three seasons are Arsenal.

I've provided the link just to prove you are truly as thick as pigsh.it and talk utter shi.te

http://www.portsmouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/results.asp

[woof woof !]

to be honest i am quite happy with a draw there, if you said to me before the game it would be 0-0 with a weakened team i would have grabbed that, we are still unbeaten and still in the mix at the top so its all good

Only problem with that Mo is that for me at least there was no reason to start with a "weakend" team .

[Scottbot]

All the more reason to play your strongest team then surely?

Sure, and our side today could had well won even with a half-arsed performance.[/quote]
We were lucky not to lose mate. They had two golden opportunities plus the pen. Like i said, i don't get too drawn into the rotation debate coz it's pretty boring and it always goes the same way. On the one side you have posters saying 'play your strongest side all the time', the word fickle comes up over an over, 'you never say anything when Rafa rotates and we win' is another classic. BUT the team selected today was folly as far as i can see. You've just been bigging up the strength of Pompey, you've highlighted how the other top 3 sides struggle at Fratton yet you're also saying we could and should have beaten them with a line-up missing our two best attacking players. The two arguments are contradicting surely?

[AB's Red Army]

Next 3 EPL games:

Birmingham - Home - HAVE TO WIN
WIGAN - Away - HAVE TO WIN
Spurs - Home - Must win game

We play Spurs away, not home. We don't play them at Anfield until the last game of the season.

And we should win all three.

Spurs are horrible defensively.

[Lando_Griffin]

Typical over-reaction from certain quarters...

Yes we were poor. That happens to teams you know - it's not a new thing exclusive to Rafa Benitez.

"So and so should have started..." - are these ramblings coming from the same people who were banging on about our rotation now being "class for class"?

Hmmm.... We got a point today, at a venue where the reigning champs got a point. At a venue where we lost last season.

Now - grow up and stop spitting out the dummy, dummies.

If we'd started with the team we finished with we would've sown up the game in the first half while Portsmouth were still playing "Rope a Dope" .

Stick to hurling abuse Lando , they're more amusing and make more sense than your footy analysis.

Is that right? It makes more sense that the ramblings I've read so far.

Still - here I was thinking that fickle attitudes and emotional posts were those that made the least sense...

So whadya think ?

Rafa was right with his starting 11 ?

You don't think that starting with Torres instead of Crouch/Voronin or Gerrard instead of Sissoko would have made a difference ?

Woof - what is the point of having a squad, then playing the same team every week?

Had Gerrard started, he'd have played 3 games in less than 7 days.  Torres travelled to Iceland, then to Spain, then back to England in the same space of time.

Now - MAYBE Rafa wanted them to play. Maybe they said they weren't feeling too good. Maybe it wasn't Rafa's decision to drop them at all.

Ever thought of that?