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[Lando_Griffin]

Typical over-reaction from certain quarters...

Yes we were poor. That happens to teams you know - it's not a new thing exclusive to Rafa Benitez.

"So and so should have started..." - are these ramblings coming from the same people who were banging on about our rotation now being "class for class"?

Hmmm.... We got a point today, at a venue where the reigning champs got a point. At a venue where we lost last season.

Now - grow up and stop spitting out the dummy, dummies.

probably aimed at me without you reading the whole thread, i said at the start i thought we were strong enough to win this, however with hindsight rafa got the selection wrong, we did swap class with class but today we underperformed, whether thats down to the changes or just an off day who knows.
maybe with torres and gerrard on the result would have been the same, who knows.

but i have read the whole thread and not seen an over reaction from anyone, maybe you think a slight criticism is an over reaction

And maybe I was referring to others...

Fact is, people can't ar*se-kiss Rafa one week, then basically insult his intelligence and understanding of the game the next.

Here's a novel thought that seems to have bypassed the majority of this forum:

Rather than "Rafa got it wrong", how about "Redknapp got it right"?

It seems to me that people think everything that happens on a football field is down to Rafa, but folks need to realise that there are others involved.

[AB's Red Army]

Have to add...everytime mascherano doesn't play...our midfield is over-run. Hope rafa sticks with mascherano and gerrard midfield combo. That is the combo which will bring us glory. Portsmouth were over-running our midfield.

Agree with that Rock. Not sure it was Mash's exclusion per se, but especially in the second half, there was a huge hole.

It was impossible for Mascherano to play today

[Scottbot]

Typical over-reaction from certain quarters...

Yes we were poor. That happens to teams you know - it's not a new thing exclusive to Rafa Benitez.

"So and so should have started..." - are these ramblings coming from the same people who were banging on about our rotation now being "class for class"?

Hmmm.... We got a point today, at a venue where the reigning champs got a point. At a venue where we lost last season.

Now - grow up and stop spitting out the dummy, dummies.

But not from me mate, it's rare i ever have much to say on rotation but i'm absolutely seething with today's (see post in rotation thread) teams selection. This is IMHO our 5th toughest away of the season. Not a time to rest ANY of your big guns. Rest em on Tuesday, rest em for Birmingham at Anfiled on Saturday but not today.

[Emerald Red]

It's weird how many posters you just don't normally see come out of the woodwork to moan when we play badly, then feck off again until it happens again.

[112-1077774096]

redknapp didnt choose to leave his two best players on the bench mate, rafa did, whatever the reasons rafa made that choice

[Wilhelmsson]

So we where desperate for a goal ?

Jeeze man, some people go over the top.

If it had been the FA Cup final in the last minute and we where 0-1 down we would have been desperate.

If it had been 1989 at Anfield against Arsenal then we would have been desperate for a goal.

If it had been the last game of the season, and we only needed a draw for the titel at 0-1 down, then we would be desperate.

We where not desperate for a goal this afternoon. It would have been nice, but we where not desperate.

What you are basically saying is that a draw is good enough? Since when is a draw good enough against any team? If a team doesn’t score goals, a team doesn’t win matches; it’s a terribly simple Key Stage Two notion.

A team should not be throwing points away, now granted this might not have a huge deal of difference at the season or it might do, hindsight shall tell us come the end of the season.

If Liverpool are serious about winning the league, then such games need to be one and I feel with better attacking personnel playing today, the team could have collected all three points.

[AB's Red Army]

2pts pi.ssed away today. You rest your best players in games like our next home game against shi.te like Birmingham not games that you know will be tough like Pompey away.
FFS! Grim 

How many top four sides have come to Upton park in the last three seasons and won? Full strength or not?

Answer on a postcard mate.

Upton Park!
In the last 2 seasons
Chelsea have won there twice, United, Spurs, Everton and us have all won there too.

Are you realy as thick as pigsh.it or are you just pretending?
You can send me your answer on a postcard mate. 

Keyword: top four.

Since when were Everton and Spurs in the top four?

We lost to Pompey last season and obviously we failed to win this year.

United lost to Pompey last season and they didn't win the year before either. They drew this season.

Arsenal have not beaten them in the last two seasons there.

Only Chelsea out of the TOP FOUR have won there.

Dip .

[The_Rock]

Have to add...everytime mascherano doesn't play...our midfield is over-run. Hope rafa sticks with mascherano and gerrard midfield combo. That is the combo which will bring us glory. Portsmouth were over-running our midfield.

Agree with that Rock. Not sure it was Mash's exclusion per se, but especially in the second half, there was a huge hole.

Mascherano provides our team balance. He also closes down the oppositon very well. This allows us to control the midfield. If he isn't in the team, we look lost.

Not a dig at alonso or sissoko. Just that Gerrard and Mascherano are better in the Central...the way Carra and Agger are better as a CB pairing. Rafa shouldn't really screw with these positions...

[Lando_Griffin]

Typical over-reaction from certain quarters...

Yes we were poor. That happens to teams you know - it's not a new thing exclusive to Rafa Benitez.

"So and so should have started..." - are these ramblings coming from the same people who were banging on about our rotation now being "class for class"?

Hmmm.... We got a point today, at a venue where the reigning champs got a point. At a venue where we lost last season.

Now - grow up and stop spitting out the dummy, dummies.

If we'd started with the team we finished with we would've sown up the game in the first half while Portsmouth were still playing "Rope a Dope" .

Stick to hurling abuse Lando , they're more amusing and make more sense than your footy analysis.

Is that right? It makes more sense that the ramblings I've read so far.

Still - here I was thinking that fickle attitudes and emotional posts were those that made the least sense...

[Scottbot]

Utd couldn't do it last year, they got beaten 2-1.
Utd couldn't do it this year either.

Arsenal haven't won there in 2 or 3 years as far as I can remember.

All the more reason to play your strongest team then surely?

[112-1077774096]

ah the fickle word springs up again, and again used totally out of context,

[Emerald Red]

Spurs 1 - 2 now! Ah it was good while it lasted, top of the shop

We'll be back at the top again soon. Don't worry.

[AB's Red Army]

Utd couldn't do it last year, they got beaten 2-1.
Utd couldn't do it this year either.

Arsenal haven't won there in 2 or 3 years as far as I can remember.

All the more reason to play your strongest team then surely?

Sure, and our side today could had well won even with a half-arsed performance.

[Wilhelmsson]

Really?

Utd couldn't do it last year, they got beaten 2-1.
Utd couldn't do it this year either.

Arsenal haven't won there in 2 or 3 years as far as I can remember.

Why do fans always use other teams’ results? Who cares what Utd have gotten this season or last season from the fixture? The important issue here is capitalising on our rival’s mistakes. If Utd drop points at Fratton Park, Liverpool must ensure they collect maximum points from the same fixture. It makes a world of difference come the end of the season.

[Lando_Griffin]

redknapp didnt choose to leave his two best players on the bench mate, rafa did, whatever the reasons rafa made that choice

Yes, because Gerrard played 2 games in 4 days, and Torres travelled to Iceland and Spain in the same time frame.

Anyone who thinks the team that took to the field today wasn't good enough is a bit daft, tbh. We just didn't play well, basically because the team couldn't train for the match. Nothing to do with a lack of ability or talent.

Simple as that.