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[bigmick]

Everyone's entitled to their opinion obviously, and like you Bob I can appreciate that Konchesky doesn't exactly tick the "exotic" box despite his Russian gymnast name. He IS though a better player than Insua, he is abviously a better player than Dossena, and I can't for the life of me understand why people have got their knickers in a twist about his signing. It's absolutely the same with Carlton Cole. He's accepted by pretty much everyone as being a good player, but because Roy was in for him suddenly he's king of the donkeys.

People need to at least give these new players a chance surely

[Number 9]

People need to look at the reality,Insua was a terrible defender,goodish going forward but a liability all the same.....Aurelio could be good if he stay fit but he just cant!

Given the funds available and the fact that left backs are as rare as hens teeth,its a good signing,a solid signing!Yeah we would all love an Ashley Cole type in there but its not practical given our financial status and the fact the club is in limbo until we get the cancer out.

Im a plumber....I would love to drive a ferrari but I cant afford one...so I stick with what I can afford.
You can want better but until you can afford better....you get what you can!
Stop whinging about Roy signing someone "not good enough for LFC" and open your eyes.....theres a very valid reason why we are signing players of this calibre(two reasons in fact).........its not Roys fault,in fact he has done a great job in the window with what he had to play with!

[bigmick]

One other positive of the window was the apparent fact that Roy tried to lump Lucas in with Babel as a makeweight for the Cole transfer. At least he's worked out the lie of the land on that score fairly sharpish, although I must confess I was beginning to get a little concerned by how many games the Brazillian was playing. West ham truly is about his level.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

I would liken the Konchesky scenario with giving up smoking .... anyone who had a heavy habit and found this a particular hardship will know exactly what I speak of  Its like this ..you have been abstaining from cigarettes for a year or more and along comes a concerned citizen to preach the perils to your health and how you should pat yourself on the back for ridding your body of this deathly toxin .....
Well I don't know if its the rebel in me ,but I feel like grabbing the nearest pack and smoking one in front of their smug faces and blowing the smoke in their general direction .... and this is how I feel when posters attempt to preach about the virtues of players I believe to be bereft of the Quality Liverpool needs ... I will for all intents and purposes deliver my own much considered verdict on the player and have faith in my own judgement.... it may well mirror what other posters conduct regular sermons about then again it may not ..... but if it doesn't fit in with your itinerary then may I politely suggest ,you just accept it and move on .... you should know by now only the weak willed will be susceptible to your constant browbeating ....and the more confident amongst us will be able to forge their own opinions and not fear separation from the ensuing flock

[Calum]

Just heard him talking
Hes not the brightest bulb in the tool box is he?

Footballers in general aren't intelligent.

[bigmick]

At this early stage Konchesky appears to be THE player who is the absolute epitome of the ideological difference between those who are happy to have Roy as manager, and those who really aren't if they're honest. On the one hand you have some people like myself who are more than happy to embrace the improving journeyman, the good pro who can do a good solid job, the perhaps limited but extremely motivated trier who hopefully won't let us down. On the other hand, you have those who crave the more lauded talents, the exotic and the interesting, the proven or the expensive but who have the potential to be World beaters.

Would Rafa have signed Konchesky? Not in a million years no. he would have bought somebody from overseas and there are those who think given a budget of 4 million quid he would have got somebody better than the ex Fulham man. Others like myself aren't so sure, and are happy to take the safer option, the proven Premiership performer who ought to settle relatively quickly.

Like I say, I've got a feeling that it is the Konchesky signing above perhaps all the others which will be the true barometer of Roys first season. If the ex fulham man proves to be as bad as some on here would have you believe, it'll be held up as a prime example of a manager out his depth buying players who are in the same situation. If on the other hand Konchesky proves to be an astute aquisition, then it could be that such purchases will be viewed with more confidence going forward.

Personally I'm happy for it to be so. I take Konchesky to prove the doubters totally wrong and to be a revelation.

[dawson99]

I hope hes major hit, and i think he'll surprise a few posters on here who all want him to do well as well. What we need to rememebr is we dont have the money of Citeh, or the lure of CL football as that other 4, but considering our situation, its been a highly successfull summer transfer. Yeah we need this and that, but I truly think Konchesky is a good move

[metalhead]

Agreed with many of you that he is a good pro and can do the job.

I disagreed with Roy about some signings, like Rob Jones one, but for me Konchesky is not a ''Joke of a Player'' nor he is ''Sh*te". If he turns out to be anything like Finnan I don't think anyone will complain.

[Cool Hand Luke]

The best thing that can happen for Paul Konchesky as far as the forum is concerned is that he actually plays a couple of games. People who are calling him a "joke of a signing" will see that he gets up and down the line well, snaps a good tackle in and has an excellent left foot. No doubt he'll take the odd set-piece (which he is very good at), and they'll notice that he is good in the air and very rarely gets skinned by anybody. Once they've had a look at him, they'll realise that were it not for the fact that he has been behind Englands best player relative to his peers in World football, he would have had a good few International caps as well.

Those that want to look will instantly notice that he has a great attitude as well, he's a 100% merchant who is very consistent and gives his all in every single match. They won't see him shouting his mouth off in the papers, or demanding a huge contract. What they'll notice is that Konchesky is an excellent pro, who is a much better fullback than the lad who played there for us the majority of last season.

I reckon Paul Konchesky will be looking at this move as the absolute pinnacle of his career and he'll be excited by it like he's never been excited before. He'll want so much to do well it'll be like being a kid all over again, and all those hard lessons he's learnt in his career will be put to good use at the best club in the land. Hopefully for his sake he doesn't read this forum and see the way some people are carrying on, but if he does he shouldn't overly let it concern him and I'm sure he won't.

Some people think Paul Konchesky is a good signing who will improve our team from the very first match he plays. I'm one of them.

If 4 million really is the price then we paid too much but Konchesky will be a decent addition to the squad as we were lacking in options at left back. But only because he is English you are saying he has a great attitude, gives his all in every single match and won't shout his mouth off in the papers. In fact he did mouth off to the papers in a very unprofessional way.

You can't make assumptions about players and give them the benefit of the doubt just because they are English as it makes you just as bad as those people who moan about every English player we sign and demand we sign more “exotic” sounding players.

[roberto green]

People need to look at the reality,Insua was a terrible defender,goodish going forward but a liability all the same.....Aurelio could be good if he stay fit but he just cant!

Given the funds available and the fact that left backs are as rare as hens teeth,its a good signing,a solid signing!Yeah we would all love an Ashley Cole type in there but its not practical given our financial status and the fact the club is in limbo until we get the cancer out.

Im a plumber....I would love to drive a ferrari but I cant afford one...so I stick with what I can afford.
You can want better but until you can afford better....you get what you can!
Stop whinging about Roy signing someone "not good enough for LFC" and open your eyes.....theres a very valid reason why we are signing players of this calibre(two reasons in fact).........its not Roys fault,in fact he has done a great job in the window with what he had to play with!

Good Post Number 9.

At the end of the day it all boils down to the owners and I'm getting sick of people on here blaming the managers. Obviously one manager is better than the other but if you have no funds you have no Kwality

[bigmick]

Obviously one manager is better than the other but if you have no funds you have no Kwality

I wouldn't say obviously better. I know Roy's started very well but I wouldn't go as far as saying "obviously" just yet.

[Reg]

Obviously one manager is better than the other but if you have no funds you have no Kwality

I wouldn't say obviously better. I know Roy's started very well but I wouldn't go as far as saying "obviously" just yet.

Like any manager, he needs time to adjust to his new situation which means realistically at least 6-12 months.

Anyone who imagines they can constructively assess the guy after a few weeks is dreaming.

[Benny The Noon]

At this early stage Konchesky appears to be THE player who is the absolute epitome of the ideological difference between those who are happy to have Roy as manager, and those who really aren't if they're honest. On the one hand you have some people like myself who are more than happy to embrace the improving journeyman, the good pro who can do a good solid job, the perhaps limited but extremely motivated trier who hopefully won't let us down. On the other hand, you have those who crave the more lauded talents, the exotic and the interesting, the proven or the expensive but who have the potential to be World beaters.

Would Rafa have signed Konchesky? Not in a million years no. he would have bought somebody from overseas and there are those who think given a budget of 4 million quid he would have got somebody better than the ex Fulham man. Others like myself aren't so sure, and are happy to take the safer option, the proven Premiership performer who ought to settle relatively quickly.

Like I say, I've got a feeling that it is the Konchesky signing above perhaps all the others which will be the true barometer of Roys first season. If the ex fulham man proves to be as bad as some on here would have you believe, it'll be held up as a prime example of a manager out his depth buying players who are in the same situation. If on the other hand Konchesky proves to be an astute aquisition, then it could be that such purchases will be viewed with more confidence going forward.

Personally I'm happy for it to be so. I take Konchesky to prove the doubters totally wrong and to be a revelation.

If the previous manager would of bought someone with an exotic name as a left back does that mean the last full back has another name as opposed to Glen Johnson ? Confused . I'll give you another left back who is better and cheaper - the guy fulham bought to replace him - salcido . Our transfer dealings this summer have been a mixture of good and poor IMO . We have also failed to once again failed to sign a striker - Konchesky is a lower team journey man who is at an age where he won't improve as a player - he is ok , he would of been someone to come in and be a decent back up - it shows how far we have come with our finances when he is our first choice . I want better players but realise we can't get them . We better hope that Torres stays fit or we are going to sit mid table . Last season people said we shouldn't accept mediocrity where as now it seems we have to embrace it . I don't need to see how Konchesky does to realise he is nothing more than ok as he has been playing in the prem for many years now and if he was more than ok then other top teams would of picked him up by now .

[bigmick]

It's funny Reg but I find myself agreeing with more and more of your posts these days. I don't who should be more worried out of us, but I totally agree here that jumping to conclusions visa vis the manager is silly. If we had won our first three matches would it have been sensible to hail the manager as the new Shankly? As it is, we've won five out of the seven matches we've played competitively. We haven't played great, but we've done alright. It would have been six out of seven if Reina hadn't thrown it in against Arsenal.

Roy needs time, and we need time. Writing him off or players who haven't kicked a ball for us yet off though is daft.

[roberto green]

Obviously one manager is better than the other but if you have no funds you have no Kwality

I wouldn't say obviously better. I know Roy's started very well but I wouldn't go as far as saying "obviously" just yet.

I am saying this based on achievements and Rafa has achieved alot more in his shorter spell in management. Even though I support Roy I think Rafa will be the better manager but as I say that's just my opinion.